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    VladD2
    @VladD2
    В CCI есть пимеры ревратера бинарников. Если он вроде как поддерживает .NETStandard, проблем быть не должно.
    KimpexStef
    @KimpexStef
    Anyone speaking english? I have a small issue using Ammy.WPF with Visual Studio 2017. As soon as I open a .ammy document, Visual Studio 2017 crashes...
    NN
    @NN---
    @ionoy Please help :)
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    Unfortunately, Ammy extension for VS is not supported anymore since the move to .NET Standard breaks current backend
    also, it doesn't seems like there is enough interest in XAML alternative
    there is a move to coded UI though, which might be interesting
    I have started an open source project to explore that https://github.com/ionoy/Ammy2
    currently it's Xamarin.Forms only, but it should be easy to add another platform
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    Hey @ionoy, am I reading this right, are you stopping work on Ammy?
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    hi @aalex675
    at the moment, yes
    with Nemerle it became very hard to continue development for newer frameworks
    and unfortunately Ammy didn't find a big following
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    A shame, it really saves a lot of time
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    I may do bug fix or two, and I can definitely help if someone wants to implement something
    yeah, I really love that project
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    Can you help me understand what the specific issues are moving forward? perhaps there is something I could work on
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    for Ammy to become mainstream it needs to be cross platform
    so it has to target .NET Standard
    but Nemerle is compiled against .NET 4.6
    and I doubt it can be compiled with Standard
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    What is Nemerle?
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    the language which Ammy was developed with
    also, Ammy can't import .NET Standard references
    so it needs a new backend
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    Looks like Nemerle is dead?
    How does Nemerle work, does it compile to IL?
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    yes, it's a compiler
    same as C#
    https://github.com/AmmyUI/AmmyUI/blob/master/src/Core/Ammy.Backend/ReflectionBackend.n
    here is what backend looks like
    it loads type information from the assembly and converts them into Nitra symbols
    aalex675
    @aalex675
    How difficult to just convert this code to C#?
    How much of Ammy is written in this language?
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    basically impossible
    whole language part is written in Nemerle using Nitra language framework
    and it's a lot of code
    there needs to be a more realistic goal
    if it's just supporting .NET Standard references, then it's more or less doable
    just a lot of work still
    complete rewrite would take a lot of time
    by this point I'm more or less convinced that it's easier to migrate to coded UI than to alternative XAML language
    something like this https://github.com/ionoy/Ammy2
    rsuk
    @rsuk
    Purchased your superb Live Xaml yesterday and trying to capture info for expenses - are you based in the EU?
    Chris
    @furesoft
    could you make it available for avaloniaui?
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    @rsuk yes
    @furesoft doesn't it already work with Avalonia? I remember doing something about that
    Chris
    @furesoft
    hmm could you port it to vs2019?
    NN
    @NN---
    Another XAML basded framework https://platform.uno/ :)
    Mihhail Maslakov
    @ionoy
    @furesoft I'm very deep into LiveSharp development at the moment. Can you try building Ammy at your end?