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Apr 2018
Jumar Macato
@jmacato
Apr 03 2018 14:38
Hey folks! I've tried doing the acrylic style blurred window for avalonia, as shown below
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unfortunately it was not a total success, since there's some redraw artifacts but at least in principle we can make avalonia apps look like UWP apps in the future (windows only of course) :) here's the snippet for those who want to try it out.
danwalmsley
@danwalmsley
Apr 03 2018 17:06
@jmacato looks nice, how could I enable this within the app itself so I could make the sidebar or control catalog be acrylic, but overlaying the content, in theory that could work cross platform right?
Steven Kirk
@grokys
Apr 03 2018 17:21
ooh nice @jmacato !
@AyratShigapov yeah sorry that's a known issue, i don't think anyone's just had the time to investigate and fix it yet :/
speaking of which, sorry i've not been around much and not reviewed many PRs over the last few weeks, i've been too busy
William Humphreys
@WHumphreys
Apr 03 2018 21:35
I actually dont think many projects are good as most of them are far from, But I believe this is a winner... If you change some stuff. I really believe its time that all involved stood back and created a real site (so to speak) with docs demos and up to date waffle. And a (sort of) release date. In fact just release more stable i(ish) code more often. This is simply talking to a few developers today that I introduced this to and after their playing and thoughts said "Looks good, documentation crap, cant be bothered trying to fix it, After 10 mins of playing it mostly didnt work (because the docs are crap). Twitter bootstrap had this on the ball. At every stage the docs where over the top good. People would rather have good docs and a system that is flaky than a cool system that has no docs.
se5a
@se5a
Apr 03 2018 21:39
yeah that's all good if you have the resources to do good documentation. I suspect AvaloniaUI doesn't.
William Humphreys
@WHumphreys
Apr 03 2018 21:41
@se5a If you have the time to code it you have the time to stop and document it. So that doesnt wash. Coders hate to document as its boring. I know I am one. But in the real world you have to if you want it to work.
se5a
@se5a
Apr 03 2018 21:41
especially with something that's continuing to evolve, documentation has to be re-written frequently.
documenting is a totaly different skillset
William Humphreys
@WHumphreys
Apr 03 2018 21:41
@se5a Yes it does. Your point...
The fact is if 'you' (not specifically) dont do this this project will die.
Again Twitter Bootstrap did this and did it very very well.
Thats why its pretty much the de facto standard
in web design
As there are much better systems (with crap documentation)
Steven Kirk
@grokys
Apr 03 2018 22:40
yeah, i agree fwiw @WHumphreys
@kekekeks has now given me ftp access to the site so hopefully tomorrow i can update it with the start of the documentation i've been working on
but if it's just me doing the docs i don't think it's going to improve all that rapidly...
especially as that means i will have less time for dev and reviewing PRs
tbh i think docs is where people can contribute most fruitfully right now
even if it's just opening issues on https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avaloniaui.net for things that need documenting