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Mar 2018
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
Mar 25 2018 08:25
@OftKilted The way you're solving Battalion Organisation looks good. I think once we've got every catalogue into a release candidate state we should probably go through and add this to all cats. I'm not sure how we'll solve Battalions that cross cats though (e.g. Aetherstrike Force requires units from the KO and SE cats).
@Mad-Spy I will probably have some time this week to work on the Nurgle catalogue if you're okay with me taking that on? I'll probably add the Tamurkhan's Horde stuff while I'm at it too (with the mammoth going into Slaves to Darkness as noted above).
What do you want to do with the Giant Chaos Spawn entry? It can either go into the main Chaos cat or we have duplicate entries in each of the mono-god cats - up to you!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 10:46
@FreylisUK the cross cat units likely need to be in the cat associated with the battalions faction (the only challenge I could see would be for validation on the ones that say “Any ORDER unit” or something similarly broad)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 10:55
I see merit in not duplicating to decrease sizes ... but I also see merit in duplicating to allow battalion validation... (ones that have “Any (CHAOS GOD) DAEMON” for example ...)
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Mar 25 2018 14:50
@all I have not implemented the 'hide battleline category for non-pitched armies' (if Force Not Instance of Allies) in the Order catalogs. Is this needed? If so I will create an issue and add this to the order catalogs.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 17:13
Battleline category is not available in Allies forces at all. So as long as you've got an Other which is only visible in Allies, then you're good.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 17:17
And if they’re a force that isn’t available as an ally to anyone ... then it’s not an issue (e.g. Tomb Kings ...)
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Mar 25 2018 17:19
@Mad-Spy I will need to fix up the Order catalogs then. Liberators for example are only visible as battleline right now.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 17:39
yup, they'll need an Other entry which is only visible if Force is an Instance of "Allies", where "Allies" is an OR group of the three Allies force entries.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Mar 25 2018 17:55
@Mad-Spy Created issue #209 and started working on it.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 18:03

@/all Issue #210 created for the Tzeentch catalog.

@Mad-Spy Thoughts on including in the core catalog applicable units? (IE Giant Chaos Spawn, Soul Grinder, Daemon Prince?) It would make Battalions much easier to validate.

Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 18:04
@rweyrauch, your title is wrong :). You don't actually need to hide Battleline because it cannot be included in an Allies force anyway. You just need to make an Other entry.
and hide it appropriately.
@OftKilted, we either duplicate them, or put them all in the GST.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Mar 25 2018 18:07
@Mad-Spy Changed the title on #209.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 18:07
:D
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 18:15
Duplication is the 'easier/faster' current method.
What did you think of the Battalion validation proposal?
It appears to work with the current implementation, and doesn't do anything overly wonky.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 18:17
I still need to look at it, I was out all day.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 18:17
Take a look at FEC, or at TK.
I'm taking a peek at it right now for the LoN
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 19:43
And ... I think that last update to Legions of Nagash puts death as 'ready for prime-time' and ready to deploy. (I can't believe I missed entering a profile for Prince Vhordrai .... )
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 20:26
@Mad-Spy The custom profile types in the Slaves To Darkness don't appear to be there anymore ... (as if they were stripped out) so the file is erring on open in the editor.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 20:39
I moved the Battalion Org profile type to the GST (as I had thought we were all going to be using it at some point, and forgot to update the links!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 20:45
I'm just doing a copy of 'Daemon Prince' into the tzeentch catalog with an enforced type of TZEENTCH
Same that I'm going to do with the Gigantic Chaos Spawn and Soul Grinder
There's also a separate 'Mutalith Vortex Beast of Tzeentch' from the 'normal' Mutalith Vortex Beast...
whee...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 20:49
The normal Mutalith doesn't have the TZEENTCH keyword.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 20:49
@Mad-Spy We may need it for weird Battalions like the EVERCHOSEN Battalions ...
Yep, and there's a second one that does.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 20:49
Where's the warscroll for the Tzeentch Mutalith?
I don't see it in the DoT book? Although I could just be going blind.
It was an addition they tossed up on the Warhammer Community.
It's in the GHB.
So, there is one with 'Monsters of Chaos' and one with 'TZEENTCH'
The Monsters of Chaos doesn't have the tzeentch, and tzeentch doesn't have monsters of chaos ...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 25 2018 20:53
It's so you can include it in a TZEENTCH army without needing to take it as an Ally.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 20:55
Yep
I think it may have been released in 'Monsters Week' on the Warhammer Community Site. they had a 'monsters expansion'https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/WarCom_AOS_Monsters_Combined.pdf
If you play the game in Ghur, the realm of beasts ... all wizards know 'Summon Monster' ....
Which can be painful ... and cause the wizard to take mortal wounds ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 25 2018 22:07
@Mad-Spy What was the error that you were seeing that you swapped to putting the points total at the parent of the unit SE? And not the SSE?