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Mar 2018
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 13:15
@FreylisUK Thanks for taking a peek at the Kharadron :+1:
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
Mar 29 2018 13:16
No problem - hopefully I caught everything.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 13:17
Yeah, we probably want to run through stuff to get rid of “whoops” stuff.
I typically (mostly) am checking as I build, IE I have the roster builder open, I’ll work on a unit, save my changes to the cat and create a new roster and validate that everything works like I expect.
I still miss stuff ... :laughing:
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
Mar 29 2018 13:20
That's what I've been doing too, but sometimes you need to build list 'in anger' to find everything. Once I'm done with the Nurgle catalogue I'll probably just start using the damn things :)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:36
Started on Skaven last night, everything's ported, just RSE visibility to build .
Even when GW contradict themselves :(
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 14:48
... well ... FAQ them ....
And ... they just retconn’d all Of their old hero lines ... https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/29/dread-solstice-the-final-reckoning/
“ – a jailbreak unlike any other was planned. Combining their strengths with those of the heroes and villains of ages past, Nagash’s great prison was broken open, releasing the souls of legends of both the past and the present to rejoin their patrons. Ancient heroes now return to their ancestral armies, and the Anvils of the Heldenhammer, in particular, have seen their ranks swell.”
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:52
it's just that Verminlords don't have the SKAVEN keyword, but are valid choices in a SKAVEN <CLAN> army :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 14:53
Wait ... what?
What book are they in?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:54
GA:Chaos
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 14:55
Do they have the MASTERCLAN keyword?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:56
yes
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 15:06
Then they’re available as Allies
MASTERCLAN is its own thing ...
As all of the SKAVEN factions can use them as Allies. Even Pestilins
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 15:08
However, the PBFs list the clan-specific Verminlords as belonging to their clans, not Allies.
and so does Azyr
even though the "Allegiance" is SKAVEN <CLAN>
:(
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 15:09
Sounds like a GW Facebook/Customer Support FAQ question...
I believe the verminlord Corruptor has then Pestilins keyword
And only SKRYRE has an actual Allegiance ...
That and Pestilins
Skritch Spiteclaw has VERMINOUS keyword and SKAVEN
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 15:14
Interestingly, he is one of only 3 leaders available to a pure SKAVEN allegiance army in Azyr.
but otherwise he is SKAVEN VERMINUS, you're right.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 15:15
Yeah .. if you notice, the Warscroll for the verminlords is the old Compendium style
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 15:16
the Corruptor n the Pestilens book doesn't have it either
which is the newest version of any Verminlord
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 15:18
Thanquol has SKAVEN on his
But the Pestilins Allegiance is based on PESTILINS ... not SKAVEN PESTILINS
I stand corrected ...
It is SKAVEN PESTILINS ...
Which means that you can’t include a Verminlord Corruptor in a SKAVEN PESTILINS Army as anything Other than an Ally? That can’t be right ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 15:24
Though ... that really explains why the verminlords really don’t give a care for the Skaven ...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 16:35
Like I said, you can in Azyr. So one can assume that they are intended to be used in their clan army.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 16:37
That would be the assumption ...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 16:37
And that's how I'm going to implement it.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 16:37
Though that would really imply that the Allegiance would (or should) be changed.
It’s a potentially valid, even though not legal RAW
so, that sounds good to me. We are not the “official rules lawyers”
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 18:18
Is there an actual Allegiance: SKAVEN? I can’t seem to find anything ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 29 2018 18:28
In any case, I’ve tossed an email over to the gamefaqs@gwplc.com to see if they’ll poke at the issue ...
Hopefully it will be quick-quick ... but not so likely ...