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Apr 2018
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 02:41
@/all the Chaos.cat has been validated as no longer having the
Leader/Behemoth group as identified in #197. It looks like we can safely remove that keyword from the .gst based on the checkin validations for other catalogs in the issue tracker.
@alphalas Nice! I'm nearing the end of the Skaven.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 03:09
@/all I've got the GST ready to go with the Leader/Behemoth category removed. I can push the changes if no one else is planning on the same change.
tekton
@tekton
Apr 19 2018 05:32
Now that I will be home Friday night since the Ducks got eliminated by my other favorite team I’ll wrap up destruction then
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 09:37
@rweyrauch Go for it for the gst change.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 12:14
@rweyrauch #197 has been completed.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 12:23
I've updated the GST to reflect the removal of the Leader/Behemoth category.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 12:36
@/all Regarding the Idoneth Deepkin. We should not hold up the 2.0 release for the ID. However, adding a new catalog has no affect on the other catalogs. Given that ID models are going to start showing up on the table soon, it would make BS more useful to have the new shiny ID units available.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 15:11
@rweyrauch That actually may be entirely expected behavior for Artefacts and Trait selection
If you have multiple options of alliances you can choose one or the other ... you don’t get all.
P.116 of the GHB “For example, if all of the starting units in an army have the STORMCASTETERNALkeyword, then the army can either have the ORDERor STORMCAST ETERNALallegiance. When your army qualifies for more than one allegiance you must choose which allegiance your army will use before you set up any units. The allegiance you choose will apply for the duration of the battle, even if you add new units to the army during the battle that have a different allegiance.”
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 15:16
@OftKilted The Stormcast catalog let you select from either ORDER or STORMCAST artefacts if you selected STORMCAST allegiance. This is incorrect. If you select ORDER you can select ORDER artefacts. If you select STORMCAST allegiance you can select from STORMCAST artefacts.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 15:16
Artefacts are Part of the Battletraits
Ahh... I misunderstood the issue
:+1:
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 15:16
@OftKilted I think we are agreeing :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 15:19
The wording on the issue didn’t sound like it was what you implemented.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 15:21
@OftKilted My bad.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 15:29
No worries!
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 16:33
Hey guys. I'm playing Seraphon in a tourney this weekend, and noticed the 2.0 branch file has some bugs.
If it doesn't step on anyone's toes, I'd like to go ahead and clean up the file.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 16:37
Go for it lol
I’m busy with 40k and 30k nonsense lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:12
@tag8833 Submit a bug report along with the issues you're cleaning up.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:12
Will do
The file was in better shape than I expected. Just a couple minor bugs. I think I'm all done.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:13
Again, still not release ready yet. It hasn't been 'checked off' on the Order Release ready page yet.
But thanks for taking a look at them :)
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:16
I don't have push access to upload files
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:17
Can you make a PR?
I’ll push it and comb it to check off @OftKilted’s boxes ;p
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:17
I can't upload the file to a branch to make a PR.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:18
Good news is I’m pretty sure I got all my FAQ nonsense done so I can actually start working on this again
@tag8833 can you upload it here and I’ll pull it down?
Here you are.
All I did was fixes to #282
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:19
:+1:
danke
i’ll get that up asap
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:28
@OftKilted refresh my memory, what all is considered release ready?
Battalion validation or no?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:36
Also WTF is a scar-vet?
There’s no entry for it anywhere I see
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:39
Saurus Scar-Vet on Carnosaur or Cold One
Seraphon leader that rides things.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:39
no look at blood claw starhost
it calls out a scar-vet, scar-vet on cold one, AND scar-vet on Carni
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:41
No such thing as a Scar-Vet on foot. Not that I know of at least
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:41
@alphalas Battalion validation is not required
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:41
@tag8833 that’s what i thought
i was just wondering if there was something in the battletome physical i was missing on my aos app
cool then seraphon is good to G O
doing battalions now so they’re done.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:42
Actual battalion validation was pretty easy IMO.
Skaven has it in.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:43
Agreed
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:43
I don't have all the books, just GHB 2017 and battletome Seraphon.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:43
SEGs with links to the units inside the battalion SE is how I’m doing it; I forget if that was the “official” way or not lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:44
Effectively it's a copy of the RSE into an SSEG with a label of the unit in the SE for the battalion.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:44
@tag8833 you mind double-checking the battletome for me por favor?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:44
If you have both a battleline and an 'other' version then you put both under the SSEG with the standard 'hide' logic that prevents it from showing up when the criteria aren't met.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:45
:+1:
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:45
Anything that doesn't have a battleline & other can be 'default selected'.
In any case, I have a project open for the AoS-v2.0 here: https://github.com/BSData/warhammer-age-of-sigmar/projects/1
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:46
Check the battletome for what?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:46
make sure there’s nothing about the scarvet on foot
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:47
@alphalas What do you need from the seraphon battletome?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:47
I did just to make sure I hadn't forgotten.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:48
:+1:
sounds good
deletes scarvet from description
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:49
none that I see.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:49
@OftKilted bloodclaw starhost calls out a unit name to select that doesn’t actually exist
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:49
cold one and carnasaur
that battalion doesn't exist in the battletome
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:50
so since scarvet on foot doesn’t exist, i’m deleting it from the description text lol
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 17:51
Yep. I don't know what book it comes from.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:52
Ahh ... it's in the 'GA: Order' book.
Same with the Heavenswatch Starhost.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:53
does GA:Order have a scarvet on foot?
Also how are we handling “any number of additional units” in battalions?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:54
1 sarus old blood or old blood on carnasaur
Check the Tzeentch cat.
the huge battalions covered that.
Somewhat more limited in scope.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:57
Wait a scarvet is an oldblood or oldblood on carnosaur?
Wut?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:57
1 Sarus Oldblood or Saurus Oldblood on Carnasaur
3 heroes chosen from the following in any combination: Saurus Sunblod, Surus Scar-veteran, Saurus Scar-Veteran on Coldone, saurus-scar veteran on on carnasaur, saurus eternity warden
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:59
yes @OftKilted
i know
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:59
3-9 units in any combination from saurus warriors, saurus knights, saurus guards
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:59
i’m asking SPECIFICALLY about the scarveteran
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 17:59
It's probably one that was 'squatted' when the seraphon battletome was released.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 17:59
so i’m safe to delete, yes?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:01
give me a minute
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 18:03
Safe to delete.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:03
So, the substitute warscrolls listed the Saurus Scar-veteran warscroll replaced by the Saurus Oldblood
in the Lizardmen battletome
So, it can be deleted, and you can replace it with the oldblood.
In any case, submit the pull and I'll do the merge.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:13
God damnit it I forgot to update from AoS v2
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:16
excitement?
I'll bite ... do you actually need me to approve the pull request for the file into your branch?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:18
….
did it not….
please hold
no that PR is correct
idk why it’s not showing the improved file but that is in my branch so it should push it to aosv2
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:20
So, the merge was from AoS v2 -> your repo....
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:20
no, look closely lol
into AoS-v2.0 from AlphalasV2 a minute ago
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:22
Bad labeling FTL.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:22
yup lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:24
@tag8833 Check it out and make sure you're good?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 18:26
Check out the updated file?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:28
@alphalas Just did the honors to upload it? You did the work?
If the issue is resolved, I'll close out the issue tracker for #282
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:29
i added some battlalion validation to the file he sent me and uploaded
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 18:30
Yeah, my guess is you did more work than me. I'll download it, and give it a shot.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:31
@OftKilted so for “any number of SERAPHON units" in a battalion, just link everything in a SEG with no constraints?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:33
Basically that is what I think I did for the tzeentch catalog.
Except they had a limitation of 'daemons' or 'arcanite'
You are quasi-limited in that it only works with stuff inside the catalog.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:38
:+1:
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Oy lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:40
As long as they have the SERAPHON keyword, you're good :)
And it doesn't look like we have any from the Lizardman compendium battletome.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:48
ok so bloodclaw, d’s tail, and eternal are done.
so 3/10 battalions done lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:48
then we can get that issue closed out. and check off the seraphon on the ready list.
If we see any future issues, we'll just handle them one at a time.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:49
way ahead of you @OftKilted ;)
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 19 2018 18:52
Looks good.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 18:53
Sounds good to me. We're moving closer to a full release.
I'm looking at the chaos.cat ... and trying to figure out if we even still need it at all? The 'Chaos v2.0 ready list' doesn't list the core chaos.cat in it at all supporting any data files. Currently there doesn't appear to be anything in it that isn't part of something else.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 18:56
probably not
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 19:18
hmm klaq-tor’s talons was missing.
so 7/11 battalions done now lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 19:20
Well... on positive notes Battalion validation isnt required for our 2.0 release...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 19:21
meh this is easy lol
so then seraphon will be done done lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 19:32
It isn’t difficult. Just requires that the rest of the pieces be done. It’s a “nearly last step thing” the nice part is that because we’re using the RSE that it does Battleline/Leader Validation as well.
(Or a copy of the RSE)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 19:39
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it works; gloriously lol
tekton
@tekton
Apr 19 2018 19:42
nice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 19:43
so @OftKilted merge at your leisure
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 20:22
Keep in mind that any units that are battleline may not be battleline if selected in a 'Grand Alliance army' so they may not be able to be 'default selections'.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 20:37
I set zero defaults for that reason ;)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 19 2018 20:48
And only 27 leaders over your limit for the roster
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 21:08
well yeah that’s expected running all 8 regular battalions and all 3 mega battalions
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Apr 19 2018 21:48
@alphalas And only 170000 points. Hmm that works out to be only $250000.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 19 2018 21:52
Lol yup