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May 2018
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
May 22 2018 20:47 UTC
@/all Is the plan for a v2.0 (1.5) release on the 25th? I'm back in town and can test, develop or whatever.
@tekton How is destruction coming along? Anything I can help with?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 22 2018 20:48 UTC
Yes. Still planning to do 1.5 on Friday.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 20:49 UTC
@tekton What’s the status for the destruction issues?
The destruction issues are the only “major” things that I’ve run across. After we fixed the gst ...
We probably need to have a better scenario for managing open play. Given there are no actual “types” In open play
Especially as it is a “everything goes” buffet
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:01 UTC
Do we even need to support open play? Given that the main purpose of BS (and similar tools) is list building, and open play doesn't use points, how much use is it?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 22 2018 21:02 UTC
I’m with Simon
tekton
@tekton
May 22 2018 21:02 UTC
@OftKilted I thought i mentioned Friday I was getting to it tonight, if not I’m sorry
I know we are pushing to actually release this week so tonight I have no more things in the way
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:03 UTC
@tekton No worries! I wanted to make sure you didn’t want/need help on getting them cleared out :smile:
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:03 UTC
We've also said all along that - as with the 40K files - we don't want to replace the books / warscrolls, so all we are really offering is a compendium of sorts for open play. I'd personally just stick to matched play; that's where we offer a valid use above and beyond the books.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:05 UTC
The advantage is that we do have the FAQs integrated ... that’s a big win imo ... even for open play
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 22 2018 21:05 UTC
@Mad-Spy in reference to the points-in-battalions question you had - I see no problem with the simple implementation of points and battalions
Everything updates correctly and works
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:06 UTC
Do we leave the level of support in, or do we make our lives easier and just pull Open Play out of the GST?
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:06 UTC
I would pull it and concentrate on matched play. If there is a large enough body of people calling for open play support after we release the files then we can tackle it properly then.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:07 UTC
Right now open play is effectively matched play without restrictions.
And you can do that by ignoring the warning notifications when making a list
@Mad-Spy Thoughts on pulling open play out of the gst?
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:08 UTC
To support it properly (i.e. in a clean and tidy way) we would probably want to create a proper category for open play and add a new RSE for all entries that groups them all together (and hides the other RSEs) when open play is selected.
It's weird at the moment having battleline, leader, etc. when using open play when it's clearly not really open the way we've authored the data file.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:09 UTC
Yeah. And I’d see more of a real benefit by providing a solution for Skirmish
Which requires a similar level of effort
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:10 UTC
I suspect there would be more of a public call for skirmish support than open play support as well.
And with 2nd edition around the corner we should probably wait and see what changes it brings before looking at anything beyond matched play right now.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:11 UTC
@/all anyone opposed to pulling The OPEN PLAY game type from the gst?
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:11 UTC
We will also likely have two new books to add (Nighthaunts and new SE units) not to mention sweeping points and profile updates in August with the new handbook.
That's enough to be getting on with I think! :smile:
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:13 UTC
@rweyrauch Thoughts on the open play removal?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 22 2018 21:23 UTC
I say pull it
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
May 22 2018 21:27 UTC
@/all I also say pull Open Play. It is not really needed and we have not really been testing with it.
tekton
@tekton
May 22 2018 21:28 UTC
There’s an open play option?! (jk...)
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
May 22 2018 21:29 UTC
@/all We need to release before AoS 2nd edition comes out. We want the AoS BS to be useful for at least a week before we start to catch up with new edition. :)
@tekton Exactly!
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
May 22 2018 21:31 UTC
Do it!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 22 2018 21:33 UTC
We need to at least try and get through the initial wave of bug reports before v2.0 releases!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:47 UTC
I’ve opened #391 for the open play issue.
I’ve also figured out why Khorne Bloodbound lost in the starter set.
Sigmar cheated and game them several hundred bonus unit points. Fething cheaty mccheaty-face.... :-1:
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 21:53 UTC
@tekton how many icefall yehtees are required in the BCR Torrbad Battalion?
And does that battalion really have no Leaders or Battleline in it?
Or units that meet the leader or battleline requirement?
tekton
@tekton
May 22 2018 21:57 UTC
@OftKilted that’s part of what I’m working on tonight; I have all the battalion stuff up for when I finish dinner- I’ll do a pass on what’s on there and double check. Beastclaws are somewhat the worst off since it’s leftovers before we started on things
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 22:00 UTC
So, quick method for the battalions is to literally copy the full rse with the battle role selected and entered into an SSEG in the battalion that lists (1 unit of X).
So, Battleline or units that change have all their rses copied into the SSEG, and as long as their hiding conditions were copied they will display correctly in the battalion.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 22 2018 22:11 UTC
Sylvaneth and Seraphon are both done for battalion nonsense
I hope inheritance is simple for when it comes time for us to be able to validate “ORDER Wizard”
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 22:19 UTC
Yeah ... inheritance would be nice ... I’ll believe it when I see it...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 22:30 UTC
Wow ... the latest Malign Portents story appears to reference Settra ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 22 2018 22:50 UTC
@alphalas Didn’t you play Tomb Kings? https://malignportents.com/story/the-hero-of-glymmsforge/