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Jun 2018
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2018 01:09
i still feel bad :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 14:14
Sylvaneth updates for battalions have been fixed/updated.
And released to the masses
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 15:40
@/all Apparently the new release for Battlescribe on desktop has resolved the points incrementing problem in Child forces.
BattleScribe/Release#11
Apparently fixed in Fixed in desktop version 2.01.14.107
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 15:56
But not mobile?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 15:59
Not yet. Android has been done. And iOS is in queue
Fixed in Android version 2.01.20.281 should show up on the android store soon
Or the google play store.
Whatever it’s called.
:wink:
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 16:08
Just got Android update this morning.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 16:15
@rweyrauch Does it work when you select Seraphon as a child/allied force?
Evocateurs are not full Wizards and need to be in a team. And can only cast one spell.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 16:53
Thoughts on #463 - Basically the issue is that Chaos Prayers/Spells aren't in the GST and able to be selected.
When one is selecting individual 'sub-factions' (Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Nurgle)
One could technically add all of the units that deal with those kinds of things into the appropriate Chaos <allegiance> catalog.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 17:00
@/all Should spell/prayer/artefact lists for factions that are cross catalog be added into the GST? (e.g. Khorne Prayers from #463)
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 19:01
@OftKilted I created 2000 point SCE army and added Seraphon an ally. The seraphon init points update correctly. However I only able to add 200 points of allies. Should be allowed 400.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 19:11
@rweyrauch do the skink and warrior horde bonuses work in an allied detachment?
If they do that means we are go for simplified points
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 19:23
@alphalas I've never seen anything indicating that the points costs differ for main force and allies.
@rweyrauch Not sure how much actual testing we've done at all on Allies.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 19:24
No I meant in BS lol
If BS properly calculates the horde bonus in Child attachments that means we’re good to go
Detachments*
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 19:55
@alphalas I wonder if our crazy calculation method is the bit causing issues?
@rweyrauch So .... which point level did you select? If you select the “1000 point” choice that 200 points would make perfect sense.
(Seriously thinks that dynamic points limits for list creation would be good... like ... I am creating a list. And I create it as a 1000 points list ... so it gives the limits for 1000 points... and if I Up the number of points taken in the list that it dynamically ups the requirements.
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:00
Quickly looking at the issue myself it appears that the points are being doubled on the seraphon units, i.e a unit of 6 terrafon riders costs 240 and that registers correctly but is counting as 480 of allies
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:00
Or create a “Battle type” switch inside the roster that sets unit/min max
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:00
@OftKilted I will just look and see if it the same with the other points method
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:01
The other points method never had any issues.
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:03
@OftKilted Nope the other method is fine so it is just the simpler method that is doubling the points for the amount of allies allowed
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:05
Is this mobile? Desktop? Both?
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:06
Sorry forgot to say, looking at the latest Android update atm, can have a look at desktop later unless anyone else has time first
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:08
The update hasn’t shown up or been released for iOS
@alphalas @mdtm1g14 Is indicating potential doublecounting for the Seraphon catalog? Did you have any ability to do a quick look-see? Nothing was released for iOS, so I can’t look at stuff till I get home.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:15
@Jonskichov we had a report from @mdtm1g14 and another from @rweyrauch
@mdtm1g14 can you screenshot and add to BattleScribe/Release#11 what it looks like?
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 20:18
@OftKilted I selected the 2000 point limit. I expect to get 400 points of allies, not 200.
@OftKilted I was using the latest Android version.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:19
Check it with 1000 and 2500 points. It isn’t impossible that we have a borked gst
Does it work with units that don’t increment?
IE Dread Saurian comes to mind at 400 points on the nose
@mdtm1g14 So the error shows up in validation? Not on the front of the list?
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:22
Not sure this is the same issue as BattleScribe/Release#11 - that was about the points value not refreshing properly after adding/removing
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:23
@rweyrauch Is the “error” showing up as a validation error?
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:23
(just my initial diagnosis based on a cursory reading of the conversation)
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:23
Yep validation, also how do I share images on the gutter app?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 20:24
From mobile you gotta upload and link
It’s stupid
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:24
Assuming the selection's points are correct and the roster's total points are correct, then that issue is fixed
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:24
Okay, @mdtm1g14 remove those units and add a single unit of Dread Saurian (400 points) and see if we have a validaion error
That unit doesn’t do unit increments.
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:25
If this is a problem with validation messages showing up when they shouldn't, it could be a problem with constraints set up in the data file, or a bug with how BattleScribe is validating constrains
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:25
No issue with dread saurons
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:26
If it's the latter, open a new issue at https://github.com/BattleScribe/Release/issues and give an example I can test :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:26
Okay, so the issue is only showing up for the units that increment.
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:26
Two individual units of terradon riders gives the same error
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:27
@Jonskichov Yeah ... this may be a completely different bug... that wasn’t noticed
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 20:30
@Jonskichov @OftKilted can confirm; it’s an old build bug
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:30
I’m seeing the points validation issue on the prior version of BS for iOS ... for the Skinks
And for the terranadons
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 20:30
Uploading pics, please hold
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:30
Okay! And time for another bug report!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:31
Your first shot didn’t show up
And there it is
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 20:33
@OftKilted if you want to use those as the example pics for the bugrep download and reupload plz; I don’t keep bug pics on my Flickr long enough to use them as such lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:33
LoL
Why does it not like that?
Hang on
Try that
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:41
Awesome, thanks guys. I'll take a look tomorrow. If you can provide an example (or step by step guide to reproduce the problem) that would be great.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2018 20:43
@Jonskichov that’s the 2 pics I just uploaded lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:43
@Jonskichov Would you like this in a new bug report?
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:43
Should (!) get it fixed tomorrow and I'll shoot out updated to desktop/Android. I'll hold the iOS release til I can incorporate this fix too, so this should become available a day or so later
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:43
It's related to the current bug.
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:44
Yes please, separate issue = separate bug report
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:44
As the issue appears to only really occur for units that have sub-unit increases. And not for units that have a core value at root.
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:44
Probably related then, but definitely separate :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:44
Okay, separate it is. I'll get one submitted for you.
Jon Taylor
@Jonskichov
Jun 06 2018 20:45
Thanks man, much appreciated o7
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:48
(I’ll bet he played eve online ...)
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 20:49
Here are the errors I found using the android BS
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 20:59
Okay, I'll bite for easy questions ...
For Seraphon, add a single unit of Skinks, and then increment it from 1x 10 Skinks to 2x10 Skinks
Does it show up as 60 points, or 120 points. (ignoring the validation error)
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:04
@OftKilted which category are skunks?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:04
they'll be under 'other' in the Allies section.
(normally they're Battleline, but battleline doesn't exist)
(allies can't be battleline, so they become other.)
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:05
Can't see them in allies and other
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:05
Skinks?
they should be right above terradon riders
Which are right at the bottom of 'Other'
I can see skink handlers at 40 points but no straight skinks
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:07
Select the 'Allies' block
at the top
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:08
You cant select that now, the options are appearing under the category in the main roster
The gap separating the main and child force
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:09
Upper right corner select the three ... marks that are perpendicular next to the share button
Select 'Force Navigation'
What is the checkbox next to?
Merged, Nested or Flattened?
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:11
It was on merged, I have gone to nested and they now show up, is that another big?
*bug
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:11
Nope. That's a roster creation feature
It existed previously.
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:11
I mean the skinks not showing in merged
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:11
Okay, go to 'Other' and tell me if you see 'Skinks'
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:12
Skinks are there in nested but not in merged
Also there on flattened
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:12
@rweyrauch is #464 due to not being in 'Nested' and being in 'Merged' for force view?
Okay, select a unit of Skinks
Add them to the list, and validate they should show up as 60 points.
increase their unit size by one increment to 2x 10
Does it show up as 120 points of Skinks?
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:14
It does indeed show up as 120 :smile:
The validation issue (point doubling in ally allowance) remains in all views
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:15
But you don't see that 'doubling' until you exceed the 'validation total' ...
Okay, remove all your units so you have a clean list.
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:16
The doubling doesn't appear anywhere visual except in the validation error
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:17
Add a Single 'Dread Saurian' (they're 400 points and should be in Behemoth)
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 06 2018 21:17
Done
No issues with points or validation
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:36
Bug1a.jpg
Bug1b.jpg
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 21:40
@OftKilted #464 is present in Force Selectio modes Merged and Nested. Flattened works.as.expected.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:41
@rweyrauch Perhaps this bug needs to be added to https://github.com/BattleScribe/Release/issues
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:48
@/all Thoughts on #463 and moving the Chaos Prayers/Spells to the GST to facilitate correcting the issue? (This would need to be done for Tzeentch, Khorne, Slaanesh and Nurgle ... though we might be able to get away with just Khorne to start with.)
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 21:48
@OftKilted It seems like a BS bug to me.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:48
Which one?
#463?
Or #464?
#463 is ... technically expected, the data file doesn't have the Khorne Prayers in it.
#464 definitely appears to be a BS bug.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 21:50
@OftKilted #464. Too many threads going on. :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:50
I'd recommend opening an issue in https://github.com/BattleScribe/Release/issues
I think that the 'how to replicate the bug' from BattleScribe/Release#15 would be a good core example on the bug replication.
It may need screenshots.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 21:53
@OftKilted I'll create bug tonight. Need to get back to my day job for a bit.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 21:54
Any thoughts on #463?
Before you hit reality?
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 06 2018 23:08
@OftKilted The only way to share between catalogs is via the gst
The shared should moved to the gst.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 06 2018 23:38
Yeah ... okay ... moving the Khorne prayers to the GST....