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Jun 2018
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 12:40
@/all With the 'in the wild' point documents all over, I'm leaning towards a new points update branch off master. Any complaints? Thoughts? Concerns?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 12:41
DO IT!
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 15 2018 12:41
Sounds good to me, we are moving to the simpler method at the same time right?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 12:42
Yep. I have an even 'easier' method for those that can't 'discount properly' ...
@alphalas @Mad-Spy So ... if instead of doing the crazy logic for increment/decrement for the 'units that don't decrement by an evenly divisible value' .... one could do the points on the SE... at the max number of selections, set points to 0, and on the root of the SSE one can set points to the 'discounted total cost
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Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 12:43
that's the tiniest screenshot ever.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 12:43
Let me see if I can 'fix that for you'
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that seems better
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 15 2018 12:47
Yep that's a lot easier
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 12:48
But it is using the same functionality that @alphalas 's easy method works with, where the point values are on the SE.
The cool thing is that with the most recent app fix on both desktop and mobile we don't need the funky workaround anymore. :smile:
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 15 2018 12:51
Agreed, it's a lot better, on the points changes themselves though has there been a general trend, I've only see the Idoneth ones and they seem really odd
Please work on any points updates there.
@Mad-Spy Do we need to do any kind of 'lockdown' on Master to avoid accidental points releases?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 12:58
no, if it's in a separate branch, it should be fine.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 13:01
Okay, just concerned about folks accidentally pushing to Master for their points updates, and not the points update branch.
Lack of coffee and all that ...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 13:03
then we revert the commit and look at them disapprovingly :)
tbh, unless it's a tiny change, no one should really be committing direct to master.
it should go to a branch first and be PRed in.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 13:05
Definitely good practice. Some folks just live dangerously. (Reminds me of a coffee mug I saw at work "We may not test often, but when we do ... we do it in production.")
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 13:05
that's how I work here as well!
typically because the client (despite having had the release build for a month) has done no pre-release testing!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 13:07
LoL!
Okay, I'll start work on the Tzeentch/Khorne/Nighthaunt/LoN releases. I've got their data.
We probably want to add in the 'Malign Sorcery' cat.... unless we want to be crazy and add it into the gst. But with the inheritance future planning, we may be able to get away without doing that.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 13:10
I suppose it depends on when 2.02 is going to be released.
Or whether we want to have a 2.02 prep branch as well?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 13:21
That’s ... an interesting question. Do we think this will be something that fully releases in less than 2 weeks?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 13:27
Do we want to jump the v1.50 numbering to v2.x for the AoS v2.0 release? I think that would be a solid reason to do the jump.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 15 2018 13:45
that was the plan :)
amis92 @amis92 chimes in: I wouldn't count on BSv2.02 being released before July ends, not to mention June. But oh well.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 14:01
Based on that note by @amis92 ... I think that we do the BSv2.02 branch after we do the GWv2.0 points/etc bit.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 14:39
@alphalas So ... Good News/Bad News ....
Good News ... You don't have to worry about Skinks having weird points discount issues.
Bad News ... They don't get a Massive Regiment Discount and are only Battleline with Seraphon Allegiance ...
Good News ... I don't have to paint as many Pink Horrors for my Tzeentch army ...
Bad News ... I have to paint more Blue and Brimstone Horrors for my Tzeentch army ...
Bad News ... they're Crazy More Expensive than they used to be by +80 points ... Blue Horrors are +50 points ... and Brimstones are +30 ...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 15 2018 14:50
@OftKilted does anything seraphon get the discount?
Also skinks only battleline in seraphon makes total sense
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jun 15 2018 14:51
I'm just sad that my expensive giant turtle got even more expensive
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 15:37
@alphalas Stegadon: 220
Troglodon: 160
Saurus Old-Blood on Carnasaur: 260
Saurus Guard: 90
Saurus Knights: 90
Looks like Saurus Warriors get the discount
I think the skinks got the battleline change due to being over-extended in Order armies as battleline
They probably ran out of Spawning pools or something .. :wink:
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 15:42
Okay those are hard to read in that link ...
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It's just brutal to read on mobile apparently.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 15:56
@FreylisUK Have you see the info on the SCE for Soul Wars yet? (and the updated points lists?) It's pretty sveet.
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
Jun 15 2018 16:19
@OftKilted I've not been paying too much attention this week as it's been E3, but I'll be putting my pre-order in tomorrow. The new models look lovely!
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 15 2018 23:33
The new warscrolls are available for download now - from New Zealand site.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 23:33
Ohhhhhhhhhh
Link?
And got it ...
Wow ... they have the Malign Sorcery ones as well...
tekton
@tekton
Jun 15 2018 23:37
what day are we going to shoot for AoS 2.0 support?
haven't really seen any of the destruction stuff in decent quality so i hadn't jumped on the 2.0 points updates just yet
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 23:38
Points updates would be good to have available when the GHB 2018 is released.
If we happen to have points updates available.
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jun 15 2018 23:38
Just need the points - other than from grainy screen shots.
That's got a whole bunch of them.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 15 2018 23:40
i'm a little wary of those types of threads from taking care of the 40k stuff; people don't math well and got a lot wrong :(
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 23:41
With you. I have horribly awful shots of the tzeentch/khorne lists.
And some pretty reasonable ones from death.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 15 2018 23:42
More reason to use my Mawkrusha I haven't bought yet!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 15 2018 23:42
Tzeentch pretty much went up across the board. Except for Acolytes.
Or if isn't a caster or daemon.