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2nd
Jul 2018
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 00:07
Death is good to me ;) 2-1
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 00:08
Gratz!
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 00:09
The guy who beat me was the only 3-0, had a REALLY well optimized order army
But my necromancers did a lot of work, they were the MVPs of all three games
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 01:12
had another game today, butcher continues to be MVP caster for my lists
the self-heal does work
also emerald lifeswarm in beastclaw lists is hilarious
with ghyran alleg
*realm origin
knock down thundertusk by 6
pop lifeswarm and a talisman
back to full, you take 6 MW and your hero explodes
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 01:18
Heh that pretty awesome
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 01:30
@tekton major BCR bug btw
its counting mournfang riders double
2 MFP models is 160, BS is counting as 320
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 01:36
I think that was fixed in the 2.0 update, I’ll check again. I had a few of those :P
ah found it, doh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 01:41
let me pull again
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 01:41
no, you were right, i'll push this in a second
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 01:42
currently building a unit of 4 gargant hacker cav :)
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 01:43
@WindstormSCR now if you pull the aos points in progress it should calculate that correctly
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 01:43
working now!
I'll do a quick pass on gutbusters and BCR here in a bit for you
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 01:44
thanks, i know ineed to go through and compare warscrolls again soon, too
so please let me know ones to focus on that you find :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 02:03
@tekton you might know this, how do command models work in regards to overlap, ex: can a sklag (mournfang unit leader) also be a hornblower?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 02:19
found my answer, apparently yes, which is great
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 02:37
Yup, it’s less restrictive in that regard than 40k (sorry was at the store getting food for a few days)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 02:49
at least with the SC box
you can use the righthand top grip hackers for the command group 1handing them
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jul 02 2018 03:37
@FreylisUK Tomorrow will be fine. +1
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 11:33
@rweyrauch @FreylisUK @tekton I'm going to craft up a release at ~5:00pm GMT/12pm EST/9am PST
Everything appears to be in from a points perspective, and it's just 'cleanup' and improvements from here on out.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 13:24
Wow ... Allies have two-fold restrictions: Points AND only 1/4 of the number of units in your army...
mdtm1g14
@mdtm1g14
Jul 02 2018 14:56
Hey all, sorry for lack of response I've been away for a course of weeks and hadn't realised I would have limited access to internet, the points for Idoneth are all correct, the FAQ put them back to what they were in the battle tome, I should be able to sort anything else out in the next few days
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 15:16
I'll have a lot of time tomorrow night to get through things again
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 15:36
@mdtm1g14 @rweyrauch Was able to step in and lend a hand for the Idoneth and the FAQ, if you'd like to take a quick peek, that would be cool. :)
@mdtm1g14 If the points are all good for Idoneth then that's okay for our initial release.
@tekton Do you need me to hold off on the Release?
"Pack it in boys, it's all ogre now"
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 16:58
@WindstormSCR :+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 16:59
@tekton huskard on thundertusk doesn't have the weapons added by default
I just need one more BCR box for a stonehorn beastriders and 4 more gargant hacker mournfangs
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:02
Nice@
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:02
also frost sabres are doubling up
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:02
@/all Release for v2.0 pushed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:02
like mournfang were
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:04
@WindstormSCR Sounds awesome! I have my first match of 2.0 next Saturday ...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:04
I decided on my last generic destruction battleline
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 17:04
@OftKilted skeletons are so much fun in 2.0 :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:05
I'm going to get some chaos marauders, file off all the chaos symbols and add more furs (probably from white lions kit?) and use them as "greenskinz orruks" with the darkoath war queen taking the role of a "big boss"
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 17:05
I swear those frostsabers will be the death of me...I also think something weird happened with one of the editor versions along the way and that’s part of why those issues are coming up
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:06
so at that stage my army will pretty much look like norscans
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:06
@tekton I haven't moved to a new version of the editor personaly.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:06
there were some lingering issues in the ditor that are now fixed yeah
so I would update to latest
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 17:07
I thought I went through and fixed the ones that is messed up, turns out I was wrong :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:11
@tekton did you need me to cancel the release?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:18
probably not since so few BCR lists use sabres
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:44
can I get some opinions on how you guys would feel playing across the table from a "Norscan" destruction army?
equivalencies that make sense so far:
chosen: IJ brutes
chaos warriors: IJ ardboyz
marauders: greenskinz orruks
Darkoath war queen: greenskinz orruk big boss
Exalted deathbringer: Orruk great shaman
meaning using the correct destruction warscroll, just using the appropriate human model equivalent
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 17:47
Painted appropriately?
As long as they’re on base sizes that are appropriate for their destruction counterpart ... I don’t see an issue
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 17:48
yeah, the save profiles and attacks are also generally equivalent
equipment is also visually similar (2h is 2h, 1h is 1h, etc)
I just love the look of the STD models for human barbarians, and the combo of BCR/ogres/barbarian humans is a pretty nice destruction theme
tekton
@tekton
Jul 02 2018 18:30
@OftKilted no just do another one tomorrow
@WindstormSCR I’d have 0 problems so long as bases and heights of models were similar, and distinguishable from one another
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 18:32
that's the plan. I'd even print that equivalencies chart and hand it to my opponents
probably on a 3x5 card or something
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 18:56
The interesting part is that they actually have LOS blocking terrain ... and it officially is blocking. And you can't see more than 1" in from the edge of a Citadel Woods now ...
And technically I would assume out either ...
Yep ... looks like in or out. So if you are further in than 1" from the edge of a Citadel Woods you are now out of line of sight.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 18:59
very interesting
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 18:59
technically it also covers ON the citadel base ... so if you have two units that are on a citadel woods base ... and they're more than 1" apart ... you can't attack them.
At least that is how I'm reading it ..
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 19:00
this the new warscroll on the app? or an faq?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 19:06
It's in the ghb, in the scenery section.
Apparently they changed the scenery warscroll rules in the ghb ... and didn't update them anywhere else.
wompwomp
facepalm
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 19:20
well
that does control shooting nicely
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 19:20
And technically melee.
"Models are not visible to each other if an imaginary straight line 1mm wide drawn between the closest points of the two models crosses over more than 1" of the base of a Citadel Wood. this scenery rule does not apply if either model can fly."
2" range weapons in the woods? Useless.
Your second rank of models that is more than 1" away. Also can't see me.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 19:23
I might have to abuse that with ogors
ironguts are really stupid easy to hide in there
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 19:24
So ... can a model attack a unit that isn't visible to them?
It looks like visibility might not affect melee?
Melee, you can attack if you have range.
that's under the core rules.... but missile weapons can't attack unless they have visibility.
Which means that you can't shoot with units more than 1" away if you're fighting in the woods.
that brings new meaning to the Command Trait "Nothing Left Standing" in destruction.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 19:44
That it does
so
someone spotted that Balthazar Gelt was confirmed alive as an Anvils of Heldenhammer Sacrosanct chamber stormcast
return of some important personalities as stormcast/death faction perhaps?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 19:45
Yeah ... not surprising
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 02 2018 19:46
tbh its a good idea on the writer's part, it lets them borrow bits and peices from the old lore where possible, and might allow for some fun connections
Like I could see "Gelt" leading freeguilders as a battalion as a fun thing
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 02 2018 19:50
Given that Anvils of the Heldenhammer were basically all drawn from the Realm of Myth ... not entirely surprised.