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23rd
Jul 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 00:13
speaking of BCR, my rampaging horde grows
now 2x4 mournfang with gargant hackers and command
and 3 'mammoths'
jorlbad and skal soon(tm)
tekton
@tekton
Jul 23 2018 07:33
given i just got home and it's technically tomorrow i will look at this later :P
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jul 23 2018 08:57
i don't even think horde pricing is an option, iirc the wording is "if you take the max amount you use the second number", not "you may use the second number"
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 14:12
@CloverFox Our assumption is that they have an unfaq’d error. Since we are not rules lawyers (per-se) we give options to allow both RAW implementations
@rweyrauch @FreylisUK So, It looks like the Celestant-Prime (who is a named character) can take Command Traits when selected as a General. was that updated in the most recent set of fixes?
(Or fixed so that doesn’t happen)
(I do like that the new book for Stormcast identifies “Named characters” in their description text.)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 14:17
@CloverFox And they referred to the costing as a “Discount” ... but purely RAW, you’re right. It should be 500 points for 30 models.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 14:35
And they just faq’d it :smile: Page 65 – Chaos Pitched Battle Profiles, Clans Verminus, Stormvermin
Change the maximum unit size to ‘40’
Q: Some units have the battleline role if they are in an army with allegiance to a specific faction – for example, Judicators are battleline in a Stormcast Eternals army. Say I built an army that could have allegiance to a faction (e.g. Stormcast Eternals), can I use the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities for the army (e.g. Order), while still counting those units
as battleline?
A: No.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 14:54
so in other words fuck gitmob grots, moonclan, and anyone else without a battletome
or even my gutbusters
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 14:55
Nope!
That was addressed in another errata
If they don’t have an allegiance abilities they get to use the Grand alliance
Page 62 – Pitched Battle Profile, Introduction
Add the following section:
‘ARMIES WITHOUT ALLEGIANCE ABILITIES
If a faction army does not have a set of allegiance abilities, then you can use its Grand Alliance allegiance abilities instead. For example, if you had an Eshin army you could use the Grand Alliance Chaos allegiance abilities, and if you had an Order Draconis army you could use the Grand Alliance Order allegiance abilities. Note that if allegiance abilities exist for a faction army, you must use them.’
Rick Weyrauch
@rweyrauch
Jul 23 2018 14:58
And now Evocators can cast spells from Lore of Invigoration.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 14:58
Q: Can I spend 2 or more command points to allow the same
model to use the same command ability more than once in the
same phase?
A: Yes, unless specifically noted otherwise.
Damage 16 grots hey ho
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 14:59
Stupid evocators
At least we can resolve the unit size issue for the Skaven
But screamers are now meh... again
Actually more meh than they used to be
“Wooooo -1 .... :facepunch:
Doesn’t address the mortal wounds on a 6 issue. Sigh. And back in the box for you...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:05
Everchosen Designers commentary: Q: Can the battalions in this book be used in Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch armies?
A: Yes, but the battalion and all of the units in it would be allies.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 15:08
Well, the malign sorcery changes are pretty major
geminids nerfbat, portal hella nerfbat, shackles unchanged, lens of refraction nerfed to fuck
spellmirror left alone and doppelganger cloak left un-FAQ'd
Q: Do things that increase the range of a caster’s spells also
apply to the distance at which an endless spell can be set up
from the caster?
A: No. Things that increase the range of a spell’s effects
do not apply to the distance at which an endless spell
can be set up. By the same token, things that allow
you to measure the range of a spell from a different
location to the caster cannot be used when setting up an
endless spell
Portal confirmed now Dead on Arrival
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:12
Portal also now only allows one cast through it.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 15:12
yeah, that's why dead on arrival
I'd rather take a 140pt butcher or 280pt arachnarok than a couple night gobbo shamans and a portal
saves me some money at least!
Page 56
– Grot Warboss, I’m da Boss, Now Stab
‘em G ood
Change to:
‘You can use this command ability at the start of a
combat phase. If you do so, pick a friendly
Moonclan
unit wholly within 12" of a model with this command
ability, or wholly within 24" of a model with this
command ability that is your general. If the unmodified
wound roll for an attack made by that unit in that phase
is 6, that attack inflicts 1 mortal wound on the target in
addition to any normal damage. You cannot pick the
same unit to benefit from this command ability more
than once per combat phase.’
no more damage 16 grots :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:14
The lens of refraction now becomes a good choice, not a 'MUST HAVE NOW!' ...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 15:14
nah, people will just go ulgu and abuse the spellmirror
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:14
And Kroak now has to make a choice of 3 units.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 15:14
which arguably was better anyway
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:15
And it's D3 or 3 (if chaos)
well, chaos daemons
And his foresight just gives the ability to generate additional command points. Not flip someone elses die.
the Multitudnous Host was nerfed-batted from D6 to D3 ... and 1 for brimstones.
bleaurgh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 15:17
@OftKilted did you catch that endless spell casualties from a beginning battle round movement don't count for battleshock?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:18
Wow ... just saw that. Interesting. Not sure what that means for Morathi though ...
So, balewind doesn't increase the casting placement for endless spells ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 15:24
And Skirmish tables were updated for both Nighthaunt and SCE. Which is pretty cool.
Though the fact that they have official points for 40 point models in Skirmish ... is kindof insane.
well, 40 renown models....
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 16:48
@alphalas Do you still have the Azyr app?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 23 2018 16:52
Yessir
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 16:53
In the “Shroudguard” Battalion for Nighthaunt, can you take a Knight Of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed?
When you get a chance if you could take a peek for me that would be awesome.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 17:08

@/all So ... a Warscroll which has never been published in the GHB, but has points on the document is valid for Play (a-la the Errant-Questor) per the new errata/faq.

Should that allow the Spire of Dawn Warscroll battalions which also had points to be available in Matched Play?

As it was never published in the GHB.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 17:44
@acebaur So... #592 With the Battalion ability referencing keyword bold versions of the units, and the faq not clarifying... add in the Ethereal Steed version of the knight of shrouds?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 23 2018 17:47
@OftKilted idk can’t check - I didn’t buy the nighthaunt pack
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 17:53
@OftKilted I don't see why the spire of dan battalions shouldn't be allowed, it also supports TKs in matched
since thier points are in thier own pdf and not in GHB just like the questor
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 17:56
@alphalas Wait... you have to buy individual packs inside of Azyr to be able to get access to the battalions?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 23 2018 17:56
@OftKilted I would say to go on the side of allowing it until specifically told otherwise because of the way its worded in the ability
Yeah 20 bucks per Faction
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 17:56
.... what the frack.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 23 2018 17:56
It's bullshit when I've already bought the 35 dollar digital dex
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 17:57
So... paying a buck a month gives you what?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 23 2018 17:59
I think the warscroll builder?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 23 2018 18:02
Yeah
You still have to buy the stuff in the app to use it in azyr
tekton
@tekton
Jul 23 2018 18:35
azyr is pretty useless...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 18:57
facepalm
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 23 2018 18:58
It’s decent for you if you only have 1-2 armies
Case in point me
But the SCE pack ($20), the seraphon pack ($20), and you’re set
And those packs include the battletome in them
So I don’t need to buy the books
But yeah terrible for checking lists against
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 19:37
It's useful for a quick list build on mobile of grand alliance armies
but pretty useless for battletomes without the digi-pack
thankfully the beastclaws stuff isn't commonly used anyway so I don't need to give a shit
Simon Barlow
@FreylisUK
Jul 23 2018 22:13
@OftKilted No, that's probably an oversight. I'll fix on my lunch break tomorrow if I get time.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 22:14
@rweyrauch No worries. We’ve got FAQ’s to implement :+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 23 2018 22:15
@tekton If you want help with destruction let me know, since my 40k cats are all quiet
tekton
@tekton
Jul 23 2018 22:16
I'll be getting to the rest of my issues Wednesday night, tomorrow night is my wedding anniversary and tonight I have to work extra; but yeah if you want to @WindstormSCR have at it; I'll try to get the rest of the battalion stuff pushed up tonight, but the destruction grand alliance trait shared rule should still be in the gst
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 23 2018 22:32
@Mad-Spy I was looking at implementing Kairic Acolytes and Tzaangor in the same fashion as the 40k deathwatch to simplify default selections as they have odd weapon configurations. Thoughts?