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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
basically: instead of putting categories on just the root, put it on the root and the SSE
then you can link to the SSE inside the battallion, and it will still validate categories
now which fucking book has the wildstalker so I can look up the constraints :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
That used to cause issues with overlap on display problems. And didn’t work nicely prior to where categories were fixed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
ah, its in one of the profiles
give me a sec to knock this together and see how it works
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Probably in raw GA chaos?
Wildstalker Brayherd: A Beastlord takes 1-3 Great Bray-Shamans, 2 to 6 units of Bestigors and/or Tuskgor Chariots, 3-9 units of Gors and 4-12 units of Ungor and/or Ungor Raiders.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
OftKilted
@OftKilted
So: (p. 195 Grand Alliance Chaos)
1 Beast Lord
2 to 6 units of Bestigors and/or Tuskgor Chariots,
3-9 units of Gors
4-12 units of Ungor and/or Ungor Raiders
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
sadly the battalions look weird on output, mashing together every SSE profile
but they're separated well enough
OftKilted
@OftKilted
How does the output look?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
not spectacular, but since it's just a reference not completely terrible
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Why is Battalion listed twice in the categories?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
I didn't touch that bit, ask @Mad-Spy
I only did the SSE categories and constraints
but it definitely cross-category validates
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Not a fan of the “unit(wizard)”
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
not my doing
:P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Wizard is actually “technically” a category.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
but at least it works
OftKilted
@OftKilted
True
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
you can see how I did the OR options
like bestigors/tuskgors as just an entry group
OftKilted
@OftKilted
So, categories in both the Root location, and the Shared Selection Entry.
It looks much more doable.
@Mad-Spy What do you think of the proposal by @WindstormSCR ?
@WindstormSCR I like it :+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
just make sure the battalion constraints have the "shared" box unchecked, or it'll cause wierdness with battalion+loose units
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
I'd tried this but the missing piece was Categories on the SSEs! I don't love the output, but it's usable.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
with AoS rules being free there is zero excuse for them to not have the proper ref anyway
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
The Battletomes with the Battalions in aren't free.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
I meant the units that get scrambled
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Oh right. True.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
so two things about categories in SSEs
1) don't make them 'primary'
2) make sure the battalion constraints on SSEs are not shared
and it all works
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
We have primary categories in 40k and it works ok?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
I was getting odd double-count issues when I did primary in the aos sses
but as long as they have the right ones and none marked primary it works fine
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Ok. I'll have a look later.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
@WindstormSCR, your solution works. There just a small niggle in that units which switch battlefield role will show both categories.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
option 2 is just use the categories that will show in battalions, since root cats should override
OftKilted
@OftKilted
@Mad-Spy what stuff does the switch? (Drawing a blank)
Double counting battalions is also bad as the number of battalions determines the numbers of artifacts available