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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
not my doing
:P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Wizard is actually “technically” a category.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
but at least it works
OftKilted
@OftKilted
True
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
you can see how I did the OR options
like bestigors/tuskgors as just an entry group
OftKilted
@OftKilted
So, categories in both the Root location, and the Shared Selection Entry.
It looks much more doable.
@Mad-Spy What do you think of the proposal by @WindstormSCR ?
@WindstormSCR I like it :+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
just make sure the battalion constraints have the "shared" box unchecked, or it'll cause wierdness with battalion+loose units
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
I'd tried this but the missing piece was Categories on the SSEs! I don't love the output, but it's usable.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
with AoS rules being free there is zero excuse for them to not have the proper ref anyway
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
The Battletomes with the Battalions in aren't free.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
I meant the units that get scrambled
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Oh right. True.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
so two things about categories in SSEs
1) don't make them 'primary'
2) make sure the battalion constraints on SSEs are not shared
and it all works
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
We have primary categories in 40k and it works ok?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
I was getting odd double-count issues when I did primary in the aos sses
but as long as they have the right ones and none marked primary it works fine
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Ok. I'll have a look later.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
@WindstormSCR, your solution works. There just a small niggle in that units which switch battlefield role will show both categories.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
option 2 is just use the categories that will show in battalions, since root cats should override
OftKilted
@OftKilted
@Mad-Spy what stuff does the switch? (Drawing a blank)
Double counting battalions is also bad as the number of battalions determines the numbers of artifacts available
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
There are duplicate RSEs with different primary categories. Not sure what you mean about double counting?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
In the picture for the layout you can see “categories: Battalion, battalion”
If, at some point, we’re going to do validation for number of artefacts, double counting is not the hotness
Ie counting the battalions twice
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
I don't see the duplication in my version of the implementation, so it may just be something that @WindstormSCR did when he was building his version
or are you just talking about the naming convention? All the battalions in Chaos are prefixed "Battalion:" in their name.
we can remove that easily
I see now in the image. I don't get that in my version, so I think we'll be fine.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
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Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
I love that that battalion can be 920 -8890 points.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
At the top you can see categories: Battalion, Battalion
That being said, I’m not as big a fan of “Unit(Wizard)”
Are we going to do “Unit(Priest)”?
And “Ability(Command)”
Abilities (Battalion)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
I agree on Wizard. It should be a separate item like psyker in 40k. I quite like abilities being separated.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
The issue I have is that they’re “Battle Traits” and “Command Traits”
Battalion Abilities being flagged that these are Abilities from the Battalion isn’t a bad idea. I’m just more of a fan of calling them what they are.
And from an aggregate perspective, an ability is an ability.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Though there are both command traits and command abilities. And they’re explicitly separated. Hmmmmm
I’ll defer to your judgment on the Abilities