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11th
Feb 2016
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 12:08
Does BSData have anyone looking at the Dark Eldar?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 12:09
Not sure
Looks like it's @Toreador13 according to that...
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 12:36
@ddarz shouldn't the clarification be added to DA/BA SW and eldar also as they use the same wording? I can copy paste if you want just thought about it.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 12:41
Technically C:CSM does as well
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 12:42
fyi, the "per model ruling" appears on ios when you go to select a relic. Not sure if it should
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 12:43
It needs to show up somewhere.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 12:43
Doesn't appear on PC or Android
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 12:43
And that's a solid place to educate people on the issue
That's a BS bug
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 12:43
I assume it's the iOS hide bug
:)
:+1:
I only noticed because i was checking something else.
ddarz
@ddarz
Feb 11 2016 12:48
@hisop Sure sounds like a plan, Copy away! I'm not familiar with the BA,DA, SW codecies enough to mess with them
Looking forward to the new version of BS
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 12:58
It cleans up a bunch. Try the alpha. It's nice
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:36
@ddarz i will make a task, can you guys look at some of the "old" bugs i tried to clear them in december but without some concensus i was hesitant.
ddarz
@ddarz
Feb 11 2016 13:43
Sure will try, got numbers/links?
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:49
BSData/wh40k#829 mostly for @cartag
BSData/wh40k#1497
BSData/wh40k#1159
ddarz
@ddarz
Feb 11 2016 13:50
btw, I had a play with the new BS alpha - bit worried about using it too much as it "upgrades" the data files - which github takes offence to - any suggestions as to how to approach that?
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:51
yeah the "upgradeing" is a pain.
Try keeping two separate versions of the data and software
ddarz
@ddarz
Feb 11 2016 13:51
Hmm yeah that could do it - messy - but doable
but later, got students to "educate" now :/
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:52
Haha, Good luck!
ddarz
@ddarz
Feb 11 2016 13:53
hehe cheers
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:53
@OftKilted i saw some DE posts you looking into them? i was just about to asssign them all to me and blitz em out tonight?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 13:58
@hisop I saw some other minor issues with the DE catalog.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:58
Are you going to work on them?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 13:59
@hisop I'm not an admin part of the group, and I unfortunately have limited familiarity with github ... but I'd be willing to help out.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 13:59
I can do it :)
OR you can :P
Want to join?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:00
(My last submits to BSdata was when the catalogs were hosted on battlescribe.net) But I'm more than willing to learn.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:01
Its pretty simple on the data side github is just used to sync data everything else uses the catalog or game system editors bundled with battle scribe.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:01
My side issue was controlling where the datafiles were pulling from in BS ... and not moving all my things to the sync folder.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:02
i keep two sets one from github and one from the repository.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:03
I just use the github stuff personally, but i like to live on the edge
and sync BS to Dropbox
I probably shouldn't, but makes my life a lot easier using multiple devices
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:04
Haha. @OftKilted put a join request on the page when you want, do you want to handle the DE bugs or want me to work on them till your familiarised?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:10
@hisop I have my 'join' request in for WH40k.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:15
I'll see if I can pull a fork of the DE data this evening and look at the issues, and then we can have BSData review the fixes?
And I can do that even if we need time to review my request to join.
And me still needing to complete painting my chaos army ...
@hisop I'm not entirely sure that BSData/wh40k#1848 is actually a 'bug' as listed. But someone trying to enforce a condition that the codex doesn't allow.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:20
Wasn't there an FAQ for soemthing like that?
I don't really know DE but that weapon rings a bell. I think there was a bug a while back concerning it
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:21
Page 72 – Succubus, Options
Change the first option to:
‘• May replace close combat weapon or
splinter pistol with an archite glaive 20 pts’
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:21
blob
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:22
Which means the data file is 'sortof correct'
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:22
BSData/wh40k#1677
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:22
So it's a data parsing error, and I need to update my epub file. rolls eyes
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:22
Was the one i was thinking about i think
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:22
The insanity is ... why would you do that?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:23
Not sure, i've only ever played against DE once so have no real idea about them
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:23
Unless you're doing it to replace the CC weapon with a power sword/agonizer/etc.
Because the pistol acts like a standard CC weapon in CC. So you're still getting the 'two CC weapons' +1 attack. ponder
@penguin20000 @hisop Who am I to scrutinize the minds of the DE players ... I play Necrons and Chaos.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:26
:)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:27
waves hands Ignore the unpainted classic DE models in the box in the corner ... You may go about yourbusiness.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:27
I play C:SM (usually Raven Guard), Tau (my only defence is i've done so since they first came out in 3rd edition).
And started building an Ork horde in the last year
But my regular opponent has pretty much every army apart from Eldar & the ones i have.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:30
I play Inquisition/gk/sisters and ad mech :P so i have no room to talk either :)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:30
Played my first game against the War Convocation at the weekend, went better than i thought it would
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:32
Yeah the thing is nice :P free upgrades :)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:32
Yeah, horrible
:p
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:33
I dont like the rigidness personally though. but its extremely powerful.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:33
Came down to the last turn gamble & hope there's not another turn
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:33
Haha all the best games do.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:33
Sadly there was two more turns :(
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:34
Oooo
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:34
Otherwise i'd have won. My friend took the same list to a tourny the other week and just wrecked everyone with it.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:35
The Vanguard are great, and the rangers aren't bad either. solid troops section. the convocation has been cleaning up at tournaments, at least it means the eldar aren't winning everything :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:36
Yup
I think necrons won the last local one i go to
Crazy Decurion cheese apparently
My dice turned off that day & i came second to last :(
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:36
Necrons are a great faction, we have a ridiculous list for it we wont use in casuals.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:37
@hisop Necrons have two saving graces. They're resillient, and shooty.
My current issue with my chaos army is a lack of vehicle units, and units able to handle AV12+ ... (We're running a Path to Glory event locally)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:41
My friend likes running the Khorne Lord on a Juganaught with the Axe of Blind Fury, with spawn for body guards.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:42
60 warriors 6 ghost arks at 1500 hard to overcome :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:43
I played against a guy running the Royal Court (i think) with a unit of Wraiths once
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 14:43
Yeah ... I could see that.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:43
in a big blob
Was all he had deployed, using the "you can only hit me with snapshots" shenangins etc
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:45
that only works twice :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:45
yeah, turn 1 he uses the deepstrike thingy
To move the whole unit. then he's charging stuff.
Then his flyers turn up and deepstrike troops onto objectives in the last turn. Didn't go well :(
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 14:48
hmm, he had the court atached to the wraiths?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 14:48
yeah
believe so
he had the wraiths surrounding them
For the 2+ armour save. This was about this time last year tbh
Was the last time i played against Necrons.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 15:04
Not sure you can attach the court to the wraiths ....
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 15:05
Meh, this was a year ago. Aren't they all IC's? he had all the special characters involved so i think it was more than just the Royal Court
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 15:19
There
Nope. Both the required lord characters and the required cryptek are just "characters" not independent characters.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 15:20
Yup, and welcome :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 15:22
The wraith are beasts ... So the cryptek and lords can't leave the unit to join the beasts ... And the beasts can't join the royal court ... They're just beasts
Unless it was all named characters in the royal court. (That is a potential option...)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 15:26
I remember he had a lot of special charaters, so he probably did that
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 15:36
Just closed a lot of Chaos bugs.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 15:49
@cartag that's awesome!
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 15:50
They've been done, I just didn't push it through for some reason
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 15:53
... I wonder if the tyranid codex has a lot of bugs in it ...
cough
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 15:53
urgh
that's it, out
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 15:53
Not when I get done with it...
just gonna leave this here
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 15:54
lol
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 15:54
The DropBear formation is hell in that book
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 15:54
i'm stealing that
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 15:57
getting the new daemon stuff put in, I wish I could take the Soulstealer relic for my KDK army. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/02/hellforged-relics-revealed-from-curse.html
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 16:09
Sounds like a "exalted reward" add, filtered for chaos mark. I'm psyched.
Just add a daemon ally detachment :+1:
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 16:10
cant' do it, I'm loyal to the Blood God
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 16:11
Yeah the royal court cant join wraiths :P
Sorry meeting :)
@cartag did you look at #829 ?
@OftKilted Feel free to assign the DE ones over to yourself, just look for ones assigned to me.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 16:22
Scratch that they can they have IC in the 7th codex :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 11 2016 16:39
:)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:21
@hisop But if the entire formation hasn't been upgraded to entirely IC's (which it is technically possible to do ... but that number of named characters ... unless you're running Apocalypse ... that's nuts from a game perspective and really feels like 'TFG' level of pain.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:23
The formation is just 1 overlord 1-3 crypteks and 1-3 lords, crypteks and lord both have IC on there profiles they don't need to be special chars.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:31
Did that get FAQ'd? I don't see that in my ePub ... it lists lords and crypteks as just type (Character)
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:31
Its not in type its a special rule.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:32
Whats the special rule labeled as?
Well that's an annoying place to put it.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:33
Indipendant Character
They split it up in 6th :P
Been like that for ages as IC is in special rules in the BRB
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:33
In any case, The Raven Strike Fighter ... it looks to be a 'Fast Attack' not 'Heavy' support choice.
And in my most recent download of the catalog for DE, it seems to show up just fine.
But I don't have IA:Aeronautica.
there ya go :P
that site has almost every book.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:36
Yeah ... not going there from work.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:38
blob
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:38
I think it changed between IA:Apocalypse and and Aeronautica then.
So, what's the process to report that it's not applicable?
According to the chart the most recent rules are IA:A And its fast atack.
Protocol is label as invalid eexplain the reason then close.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 17:42
As soon as I can get a better pic of the Hellforged ARtefacts of Nurgle to see what can be equipped by what, the Daemon update will be done :) complete with new decurion
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:44
I'll be able to get you those on Saturday.
I'm one of the crazy ones who got the daemon update.
I just can't see what footnotes 3 and 4 are assigned to
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:45
@cartag did you look at #829 ?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 17:45
Yes, I'm the one who originally suggested it to Neb in a message, I'll tackle it later.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:46
Right
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 17:46
There's no easy way to tackle it though, short of making it a new sublisting instead of CAD
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:47
@cartag Never let it be said that serving the gods of chaos was easy. ;-)
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:48
Its just been there for ages :P
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 17:48
Yeah, fully aware.
sorry, today's not one of my good days
I'm just making it a separate detachment, idgaf anymore
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:50
@cartag Sounds like a solid way to do it.
And from a user perspective, it makes it easier to find. So :+1:
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 17:51
I agree
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:51
@hisop If the spreadsheet is yours, the Khorne Lord of Skulls is also in the 'C:KDK' book as well.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 17:54
I've stopped the roll I was on for daemons and am just doing this right now so I can close #829 for you
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 17:56
@cartag Bits for the Bits God, Catalogs for the Battlescribe throne!
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:11
Anybody know how to rearrange these?
blob
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:11
As in 'Change their order' of display?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:11
yup
HQ should be at the top under No Category but I can't force it there.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:12
But it's not a 'no category' if it has the HQ category.
Sorry, misunderstood
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:12
I'm not saying part of No Category FFS... I'm saying it should be under there before Troops
Wow, I need to stop working on shit today, I'm apparently more pissed at this than I thought.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:14
No, that's my bad. I wasn't paying attention. (Multiple windows open)
I ran into order related issues when I was building stuff. Perhaps it's associated with an updated ID?
There isn't any way to edit that manually that I'm aware of, that is probably an @Jonskichov question
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:16
FML, I'm going to have to manually edit the gst in Notepad
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:17
I ran into that when I was trying to do the 'Warband Dedication' for PtG ... it put 'Warband Dedication' at the bottom of the list of choices.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:17
Thanks for the prodding @hisop, I needed the headache today.
Warband Dedication is already in PtG though
you don't need to put it in, it's there
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:18
No, I was trying to make a 'Labeled Category' instead of putting it in as a "no category" item.
More 'looking pretty' than changing true functionality.
Basically a place to put the 'Favor Points' etc.
(I'm not as big a fan of the 'No Category' section)
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:28
No Category is as good a place as any though for things that don't have another category to put them in. Not everything has to have its own space.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:30
@cartag true enough! I like things to have their own spaces. And a sense of order (at least from my point of view). (Which is why I enjoy puzzling through challenges to getting BS catalogs to work.)
@cartag Here's the full rules for those Helforged Artefacts! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/510/678007.page#8443947
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:34
I have the rules for them. What I am missing is what units can take what artefacts
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:34
1 Per model that can take exalted rewards, doesn't count towards points that are spent towards daemonic rewards
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:34
Not that.
I have the restrictions for Khorne, Slaanesh, and Tzeentch, but I don't have a listing for what can be brought by a Great Unclean One, a Daemon Prince, or a Herald
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:34
they all have different allowed items
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:34
Not all units can bring all artefacts
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:35
so a KOS doesn't have access to everything a DP has, or a herald, etc
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:35
^that
I have the restrictions for the other three gods, but not for Nurgle.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:35
the Dakka list has that in the info on the page?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:35
NO
trust me
I know you're jsut trying to help
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:36
See how that's cut off at the bottom and you can't see anything past part of footnote 2? That's the problem.
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:36
yeah she's pretty bad at photos
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:38
Ah. If everyone is pulling from the same source data that would make sense.
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:38
well, according to the dakka listing
  • The Doomsday Bell: 30pts. Counts as Instrument of Chaos. Whilst bearer is on the field, all enemy units are at -1Ld. Herald Only.

  • Death's Head of Duke Olaks: 15pts. Range 12", S1, AP4, Assault 1, Large Blast, Poison 2+, One Use Only. Herald Only

so we know 4 is hearld only
so that leaves 3
wait that's on dakka too
  • Epidemia: 20pts. S+1, AP- Melee, Specialist Weapon, Mass Contagion (Each time a model is removed as the result of this weapon, its unit must pass a Toughness nest or suffer an additional wound with no armour or cover). GUO only.
so 3 is GUO only
2 is DP/Herald
1 is GUO/DP/Herald
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:40
And, it looks like we're golden?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:40
Great. More work. I was looking forward to doing something else.
Fuck it. I'll do it later.
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:40
is someone holding a gun to your head? it's a hobby
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:42
No, but I have major anxiety issues and worry constantly about letting people down or inconveniencing anybody, and my head's a mess today, and a huge listing of 98 other things that fuck me up on a regular basis. I'm not an asshole, I just have a lot of issues :(
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:42
You're two+ days ahead of the curve. The rules don't officially come out until Saturday :)
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:43
No one's going to be let down because the rules from scanned documents aren't immediately up on battlescribe two hours later
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:43
And you've got them up before whomever is doing the C:SW has theirs.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:43
Depression, general anxiety disorder, OCD, and a myriad of little things that make me an unpleasant person to deal with :(
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 18:43
also, no one knows who anyone on here is, it's not like the releleases are tagged with our names, so you're not liable
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 18:43
The takeaway from this: don't take your mental health for granted.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 18:43
@cartag But here, you're part of the crew. And I'll vote for a :+1: that we've got you as part of the team.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 11 2016 19:47
@cartag i'm sorry i thought you had missed my original note was all, didnt meen to bother you. no need to rush to it its been there for ages :P dont feel rushed to do anything on my accord.
Going to take a fell swoop at anything i can over the next few days. (i have been lazy lately when it comes to BScribe, lots of work haha!)
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 20:52
It's already done and closed out. Now to just get back into the swing of things with the Daemon book so I can pick up where i left off...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:09
@hisop BSData/wh40k#1816 ? Not sure I'm following ...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:19
@OftKilted I think he means BSData/wh40k#1838
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:20
@amis92 It might be that someone copied the SM functionality to show/hide the forgeworld as individual components ... instead of just a 'one click get everything'
(like exists for C:CSM)
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:21
There's just one base "Show Forgeworld" selection for CSM, no way I'm going through and setting up things for each individual subsection
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:21
Yeah but more general the point is, there should not be that show/hide FW for factions with so little choices
like DE
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:21
<sarcasm> Wait ... we're not supposed to make things MORE complicated? </sarcasm> ;-)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:22
So hisop suggested to remove completely these modifiers and instead mark units with [FW]
;D
Indeed, that's how it actually ends up most of the time.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:22
I remember having original discussions on whether to put [FW] on forgeworld stuff and include it at all.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:23
Re: Putting [FW] before or after name: Putting it before looks cleaner to me, and doesn't change order of items already in the list. If it is put after, will selecting Show FW then realphabetize the list?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:23
I'd recommend putting [FW] at the beginning personally. I know that a unit is FW.... and it shows better on my mobile device.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:23
I was personally against (appending [FW]), but on the other hand, BattleScribe doesn't do great job of showing Book source attribute.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:24
There was, at the time. Consideration for putting [IA] etc for the different books.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:24
yep
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 21:24
I'm doing some work on the Space Wolves formations and wow that catelog needs some updating
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:24
If you tack it on the end it looks bad IMHO, at the beginning at least looks more uniform, especially if there are several there
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:25
Nooooooooo don't update the space puppies! They're brutal enough as it is ....
P.S. I hate wolfen.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:25
But making it as prefix makes it stand out like it's some other category
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:26
@MasterSlowPoke the groundwork for the new SW Decurion has already been laid. If you set up the Core/Command/Aux units they'll show properly. I added the SW decurion to the gst when I added the new Daemon one.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:26
And that would begin to sort entries by source book. Which is clearly not what we aim at.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:27
@amis92 Yep ... that was 2-3 years ago. When it was all on battlescribe.net forums.
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
Feb 11 2016 21:27
@cartag yeah I saw that thanks for that, I would be worried about screwing up the master 40k file myself. The problems is more that almost none of the entries are shared, so I gotta move everything like wolf guard around
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 11 2016 21:27
I mean, I think there is a catalogue which has root entries marked with quotes depending on their type (ie "Formation", 'Apoc Formation', Normal Entry)
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:28
@MasterSlowPoke I ran into the same issue with the Daemon book. Whoever worked on it before me didn't believe in shared entries.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:28
Interesting. That sounds like an ancient one.
@cartag Not entirely surprising.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:29
@OftKilted my next project is tackling R&H, but it's a nightmare and a half trying to make sense of it
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:29
So, is there a general consensus for Unit + character for unit setup?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:29
@OftKilted in what sense?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:29
Renegades and Heretics ... nice. I was considering taking a peek at that as it's chaos related.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:30
@OftKilted Most Chaos infantry units have X number of grunts and 1 character that's a leader. I do a separate Entry for them, give it a mandatory 1 selection, then put the stuff pertaining to the character in there
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:30
As an example: DE Kabalite Warriors default configuration is a group of 5. For X points you can "Upgrade" one of them to being a 'Sarg' equivalent.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:30
Ah, for that, check the Bloodletters from the KDK book
for how I did it anyway
SM file should have it also
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:32
@cartag Ahh that's cool. I'll take a look at your example. If we can have consistency that will be a plus.
@cartag For R&H Are you going for the Vraks, or IA:13?
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:34
@OftKilted C:SM has more for units that have a character already but gives you the choice of upgrading them to a veteran. KDK shows for upgrading a standard model to a character.
Re: R&H, yes.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:36
So you're building a list that encompasses both Vraks and Imperial Armor 13.
Not as familiar with Vraks. But I've enjoyed my read-thru for IA:13.
(Personally, I just want to do Chaos Aligned Knight Households)
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:37
Will likely have to do two separate ones, as Renegades of Vraks are different from R&H
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:38
I believe we have one for Vraks. Not one for IA:13.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:38
There's both.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 11 2016 21:45
My main reason for wanting to spruce those up is to keep all entries of a certain unit in the same format. Example: Blood Slaughterers of Khorne are currently in five different files. CSM, KDK, CD, Vraks, and IA13. They should be in the same format for all of them.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 11 2016 21:51
@cartag I'll concur with keeping the same format. Makes users lives easier.