These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

17th
Feb 2016
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 09:31
@OftKilted did you take a look at v21?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 12:41
I'm using v21 .... And I still
See the issue
@hisop using v21 I can't I select the weapons.
On my iOS device
Can't "unselect" or change to "none"
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 12:43
il look, i had three versions of V21 across devices >.< was a big day :P
my bad pushed the wrong version sorry >.<
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 12:51
Love old like an excellent day for blackjack
Whee autocorrect. Looks like an
Excellent day for blackjack
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 12:53
BSData/wh40k@a6bebc2 -> there is the actual fix >.< For shame my version control.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:05
@OftKilted Since you play the Necrons will you be looking to cover bugs for them at the moment? i normally give it a go as my best friend plays them but since your here its up to you :P (i have plents of catalogs to "look after" :P)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:06
I can look at them. :+1:
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:06
Also a general question, on git hub users can reference a file EG: File: Necrons - Codex (2015).catz can we have the version number amended onto the end of this at all? it will make diagnosis quicker for many reports.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:08
But I want you to know ... That the only bugs that necrons have are Acanthrites, scarabs, tomb spiders and tomb stalkers. Wraiths aren't really bugs... ;-p
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:08
"Plents" I am down with the lingo on the street. Init.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:08
cough
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:08
Good point, but then again what are they? :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 13:11
Stupid metal robots :p
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:13
Yup :P Considering that though they "burn real good" well that's what the sisters tell me.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:14
@penguin20000 only rank and file... And I just want my rank and file to shoot well and follow instructions. Unlike guardsmen...
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 13:14
Hah
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:15
And that would be "stupid metal robots with souls" .... Hooray for bio transference.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:15
Isn't guardsman "shoot in the general direction" i find they always follow orders like 9/10 of them. mostly because i shot the 10th to produce some "team spirit and bravery".
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:50
@OftKilted did the "re-fix" work out on IOS? :P if not i'l re work the book tomorrow.
P.S. i have to start bringing the ipad to the office.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 13:51
I'll have to check it when I can do the direct download to my device. I'll flag you tonite and let you know. :-)
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:51
Awesome :)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 13:53
What you trying to check? I can digout the iphone
or not, dead battery
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 13:55
That i have successfully fixed #1876 (not ideal but its a fix) for IOS.
But don't worry about it, Not releasing yet so no rush.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:06
kk, if you need testing doing give me a shout i have 1 of every platform here :)
Working from home rocks :D
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:06
Ahh lucky you :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:10
Indeed :)
Sadly i need mac products for when we have to build the iOS apps :(
I would rather not have them
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:11
Agreed :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:19
I'd rather not have to deal with service providers not updating my OS because they want me to buy a new device. But to each their own. :-p
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:21
I always go Sim Free
gave up getting phones from network providers years ago
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:21
For the money i spent on the Iphone i could afford to buy the new phone :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:21
(There are too many breakpoints for getting android updated on user devices to the latest more secure version .... Google > Device manufacturer > service provider .... Any can decide to not provide an update
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:22
Yup
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:22
You guys US based?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:22
Yep
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:22
There's always the rooting & 3rd Party ROM option, which itself is a whole load more "fun"
Nah, uk
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:23
And that definitely outs the FU in fun.
Outs = puts. Darn autocorrect
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:23
Uk here too, i don't have a problem i normally get sony phones, they keep up to date for several years tbh.
Not sure if the service providers get that involved over here.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:24
Good or bad, Apple has provided OS updates to the iPad since the v2 came out
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:24
Yeah, my last few phones were Sony's only manufacturer that still makes powerful small/medium screen sized phones
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:25
And the 4S is/was still supported. And that device is ancient.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:25
Yup
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:25
yeah the compacts got a lot of praise.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:25
have an iPad2 & iPhone 5 here to test with
We figure if they can run it anything newer will
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:25
And there is rumor that Apple will be announcing a smaller form factor phone in March (the 5SE ... Or something)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:26
My current phone is the OnePlus X
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:26
iPad 2 is 32 bit all the new stuff is 64
I've had apps work in 32 but and crash horribly in 64 bit
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:27
:(
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:27
But the cool thing is that there is choice. And you're not stuck with one kind of device
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 14:27
i think someone else has the new iphone in the company just incase :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:28
It's all good. I like my device, but it doesn't work for all folks. We've been playing with the new windows phone with continum it's interesting.
Not sure I like the fit and finish of the hardware. But that is personal preference. A high end device should feel like a high end device. Not like cheap plastic.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:35
And android has the "run to the bottom for cost" problem. Where everyone is trying to undercut everyone else to get market share. Like Austin Powers once said "That's not my bag baby...."
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:37
But at least it keeps the cost down, Its going to be like iPhone7 or tuition fees for my children :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:38
And in 2 years the depreciation on the device means that it still has substantial value ... Unlike android devices.... :-(
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:39
Broad strokes there, Samsung's retain there value just as well.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:39
But the important factor is choice. There are enough device choices that we can determine what we want to do.
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 14:39
True True.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:40
And on this side of the pond, samsungs don't hold as much value.
Unlocked S5 has half the value of a iPhone 6... And without subsidies they were
similar in terms of cost
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 14:46
Heck. The iPhone 6s has a cpu that is comparable to low end Intel i5 processors on a core for core basis
And that is nuts
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:15
How can i get the GST to recognize new stuff? :P it wont find, "formation: dominus maniple"
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:20
Hrm actually
i think it has a hidden flag on it
i was having a very quick look last night. After seeing someone on Reddit saying it wasn't there
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:21
yeah
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:21
Works for me. Formation Detachment using skitarii
And it's available as a formation to choosr
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:21
Didn't have time to mention/fix it though
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:22
I cant see it actualy
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:22
blob
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:23
same here
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:23
Update your data files
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:23
blob
I'm on the latest?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:23
I just pulled the data files to my iPhone and it works just fine
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:23
From github
Unticking that hidden box makes it appear
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:24
Check the to see what is current
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:25
Question is, is that correct?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:25
So I'm on gst v
V46
And
Skitarii v21
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:26
V47 here and v21
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:26
The Battle Maniple has that hidden box ticked but it also has a show modifier
v21 for Skitarii
and v47
blob
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:28
It's the show hide bug again
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:28
So that's on PC now?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:28
iOS doesn't hide stuff properly
Or better said.. It doesn't hide stuff properly
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:28
The Dominus Maniple doesn't have a show modifier currently
So it's being hidden and never told to show
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:29
But iOS ignores that
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:29
the show fails as there is no condition. but on IOS it fails to hide it in the first place.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:29
So I can see it in IOS
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:29
Ah right
:)
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:29
thus showing it, i will fix, and copy the formation to Cult mechanus
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:29
So iOS is incorrectly showing it
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:30
for the moaners
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:30
No
Then it's having to be updated in two places
And that's nuts
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:30
Moaners can gtfo
or help maintain
:p
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:31
And adding it to mechanicus means adding all of the other forces to mechanicus
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:31
Well the problem is it has "no faction"
so for users they could go to either, or look for a "seperate" one.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:31
Then we need to be able to combine catalog formations
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:32
Originaly i was going to add a force tye for it, but in the end someone pushed a fix similar to my original idea.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:32
Or do it like a "Decurion" and put it on the main option selection
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:32
The "share" is comeing i belive.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:32
But that's bad too.
It's been "coming" since 1.13
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:33
Haha true.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:33
The cross catalog share will be great
Will help loads with FW units etc
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:33
A single unit added to skitarii is easier than 3 added to mechanicus
And if/when they get merged then it will be a non issue
Fix the hiding problem and close it. It's not properly a formation in either codex
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:35
Only adding two to Cult mechanicus
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:36
Well imo it's "Start Collecting! Skitarii" so where it is makes sense
If someone goes looking in the Ad Mech file for it then they're nuts.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:38
It isn't "Start Collecting AdMech" it's "Start Collecting! Skitarii"
@penguin20000 :+1:
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:39
Well to be fair in the next few months they will both be rolled into one book called "AD Mech"
but you know not short hand
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:39
"in the next few months"
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:39
Fix pushed, close away :P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:39
So, was that a 'hide' fix? or a 'copy everything to admech' fix?
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:40
The first,
I didn't mind pasting it over as its a small change and if users want it then i dont care. but if your against it then i wont bother :P
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:41
Up to you really if you're going to be maintaining it :p
But it might set a precident
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 15:42
@hisop What he said.
(No offense if that is not your preferred gender pronoun).
Correction: That's what they said.
I believe that the real issue was that the formation was hidden when trying to select the formation, and couldn't be used on the PC properly.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 15:45
Yeah
Possibly Android too but i never looked on there
True_Hisop
@hisop
Feb 17 2016 15:57
Well it will work now.
Haha.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 16:00
:+1:
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 19:07
Is it really bad that I just have this urge to run out and say "No Soup for You!"
Is anyone else able to replicate BSData/wh40k#1875 on iphone/ipad? Working off the most recent set of data, I can't. @penguin20000 @hisop @cartag @efalsken @amis92
Just want to validate, before I close the issue as unable to replicate.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 19:24
iPhone has some charge, i'll take a look
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 19:33
Are we talking the Overlord in the core Reclamation Legion?
I get the same as you
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 20:00
@penguin20000 Well, at least I'm not the only person that can't replicate the issue.
I wonder if they assume that you will have multiple select options....
No .... the formation only allows one "Overlord" unit.
I guess they assume that you have to have multiple 'selection options' like in troop choices and that you'd choose from there, rather than from within the 'overlord' selection.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 20:08
yeah maybe, might not realise you need to tap on the circle bit
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 20:09
PICNIC problem. Problem in Chair. Not in Catalog.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 20:09
lol
i like it
I hate spacewolves.
cartag
@cartag
Feb 17 2016 22:18
Is PICNIC the new PEBKAC?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Feb 17 2016 22:24
When referrering to BattleScribe I think so :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 17 2016 23:07
@cartag @penguin20000 Computer .... Catalog .... They both start with "C" ;)