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10th
Apr 2016
cartag
@cartag
Apr 10 2016 16:15
Is it too much to ask for CSM to get something decent for once? We get two old 6E supplements with new formations. No decurion. Half of the formations for Crimson Slaughter require Possessed. Loyalists get a book with decurions for five different chapters, special rules, relics, and warlord traits for each chapter, and what looks like four new psychic disciplines.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 10 2016 16:19
... Sigh
cartag
@cartag
Apr 10 2016 16:21
Further proof we're not getting a CSM codex update anytime soon. My guess is our codex will be 4.5 years old before we get a new one. We're already at 3.5
cartag
@cartag
Apr 10 2016 18:50
They've also changed the wording for the VotLW rule, the only models allowed in a CS detachment that can have the rule are zerkers, plague marines, and noise marines.
This means any ICs that have it are not allowed in a CS detachment.
No Kharn, Huron, Abaddon, Ahriman, Typhus, Lucius, Fabius, or Daemon Princes allowed.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 10 2016 18:53
That was how it used to be for the votlw
The only models that could haven't were the elites
Have it
cartag
@cartag
Apr 10 2016 18:54
The original wording in the CS book is: "The only units that can take the VotLW special rule are Khorne Berzerkers, Plague Marines, and Noise Marines"
let me find the new wording again...
“No units in a Crimson Slaughter Detachment or Formation can have the Veterans of the Long War special rule except Khorne Berzerkers, Plague Marines and Noise Marines."
This forbids ICs and Daemon Princes. Originally they couldn't "take" VotLW because they had it automatically
cartag
@cartag
Apr 10 2016 19:02
The only formation that includes anything other than infantry is Kranon's Helguard, an old one from a dataslate (Advent Calendar 2014) that includes Raptors and a Land Raider, allowing you to use everything from the DV box and the CS expansion box to it. Every other formation is only infantry. No walkers, no daemon engines, just infantry.
No Thousand Sons either.