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12th
May 2016
Ok, for anybody with skin in the game regarding Chaos, how does this sound? RE: #2157
Setting up all Formations that are either CSM or BL to have Plague Zeds as an option
Crimson Slaughter is tentative on hearing back from GW.
Daemonkin is right out.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 02:33
I assume that official FAQs can change the implementation if necessary?
@cartag It sounds like a reasonable compromise
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 02:43
Exactly
Typhus can be brought in a Black legion army
he cannot in a Crimson Slaughter army
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 13:33
@cartag the hide if instead of show if worked perfectly - thanks :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:28
@cartag @Kohato The typhus "his own detachment and formation" works really well. And answers both Crimson Slaughter and KDK. (And means that you can limit "parent" settings better!)
And the new gitter.im is mucking with the gitter.im app. Whee
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:30
@OftKilted They pretty much just said "Never in a formation" as well, there's no formation that includes both Typhus and Cultists
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:31
Might be something from Vraks or Lost and the Damned?
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:31
No formations in those
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:32
So, no Helcult, Crimson Slaughter, KDK.
You might be able to use Typhus as an HQ in the Black Legion.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:32
that's some quality name censoring there :smile:
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:32
Yes, but there is no formation for BL that includes cultists and an HQ choice
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:33
Any with 'troops' that you can use cultists in?
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:33
so they can be brought in a BL army, and I think they could anyway with how it's set up, but not in CS
None of the formations for BL include Cultists.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:34
So, Combined Arms, or Allies Detachment (for the most part)
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:35
Yup.
Not even in the "Lost and the Damned" Apoc formation
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:42
I can imagine the crazy hijinks that would ensue if you could have taken them as KDK Cultists.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:42
That never would have been an option though
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:43
There was a 50/50 chance. cough They either would have said that it applied. Or they would have agreed with you that it didn't.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:43
... that's not how chance works.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:43
50/50 is a very optimistic view
In regards to KDK, it would have been 95/5 in my favor, easily. For other formations, I'd say between 60/40 and 70/30
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:47
A book about statistics by someone who isn't a statistician.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:47
Hey @Kohato, don't judge, people who don't know shit about evolution do it all the time :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:48
Just remember @Kohato ... There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand Binary. And those who don't.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:48
Hah, if only ... darwinism is dead I feel.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:49
Please tell me you're not one of those intelligent design whackos
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:49
Idiocracy is an exagerated, though relevant movie to how society is these days :/
What? Fuck no.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:49
Phew
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:49
I just mean that with modern medicine there is no way for natural selection to happen
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:49
Ok, that I can see lol
IRT humans anyway
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:50
I can't apply theories of evolution and natural selection to humans because we keep saving the idiots.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:50
Go Darwin Awards?
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:51
That's only if they remove themselves from the gene pool before breeding, which is increasingly unlikely these days
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:51
Case in point for 40k. "Can Buildings Scout" was something that GW felt the need to clarify ...
Exactly :(
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:51
I would love to be sitting in on the game where that came up
just to smack the hell out of the person who wanted to scout a building
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:51
Same ... I don't run many events - I like to play instead
but if I were
and someone tried to move a building with scout.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:52
Well. The good thing is that unless the building is designated as a 'transport' you're not battle brothers with a building.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:52
Slapped back to the Heresy ...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:52
So, no deployment inside the building. (maybe)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:52
Even if a building is designed as a transport, it's a damned building! How do you form a bond with a building!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:53
I'm not sure that I want to know how you form a bond with a building.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:53
It's called a Glory Hole, @OftKilted
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:53
That sounds heretical, and vaguely something that Slaanesh would do.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:53
Hah
Yea, that'd be a bond
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:54
So, Scouting only works for Noise Marines, and Chaos Cultists with the Mark of Slaanesh?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:55
What about sisters
I'm sure they like to get it on
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:55
Sisters ARE a glory hole
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:55
Heresy! BLAM
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:55
Ba dum Tis!
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:55
Yeah, I said it, so what... I'm converting a squad of Sisters into Berzerkers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:56
please paint them like amazons
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 12 2016 14:56
I'd be interested in seeing that.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:56
The Snu Snu squad.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 14:56
I was actually going to paint them a lot like my berzerkers, just have their battle cry be MENSTRUAL BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 14:56
If I ever start AM, It will be the Doop Army.
My admiral will be Zapp.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
May 12 2016 15:13
lol
Just make sure you throw wave after wave of your own men at the enemy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:14
Of course, that's the only strategy that works.
I'll have a single assault bike modeled as a Scooty Puff Sr.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
May 12 2016 15:19
:D
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:32
Did I ever show you guys a pick of my favorite Bloodletters?
a pic*
blob
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:33
Hahahaha
I would love to see those there.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:34
I have eight of them total, they spell out BLOODIER. I = Instrument, E = Ensign, R = Reaper, the character upgrade
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:34
Hah night.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:35
I've thought about making a 5 model pack of corn dogs sculpted of clay
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:35
I'd be so happy to see those on a table with demons.
That'd just make my day
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:36
This is missing a lot of what is currently in my army, but here's the last pics I took of the entire thing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:37
Oh nice
I have a decent bit of tau and crons, but barely anything painted.
I tend to assemble, play, then find something new to try before I paint what I bought
I'm finishing up my 2nd and 3rd IKs now for my Household detachment list.
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:38
it's missing my Brass Scorpion, Kharybdis, ~40 Bloodletters, 3 more squads of Bloodcrushers, 2 Soul Grinders, another Maulerfiend, 3 more Blood Slaughterers, another Decimator, some raptors and warp talons, two Skull Cannons, a Blood Throne, Jerald (Herald on Juggy), my Tower of Skulls, Kytan daemon engine, and I think that's it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:39
oh wow, missing alot then
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:39
I really need to set it all out again and take more pics of everything
One of the best things about FLGS, I can rent out a locker in the basement for $100/yr. It's one of the big cabinet things you'd get for a garage. I can keep my army there and not have to transport it around all the time.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:41
Oh that's nice
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:41
I think my locker is 6' tall, 3' wide, and about 1.5' deep
FLGS has around 25 big lockers, 20 small lockers (half height)... he spends $200 on the locker itself, then charges $100/yr to rent it out. After two years, it's pure profit. And helps keep the lights on there, which I am fully okay with.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:43
yea that's nice
You limited to his hours?
to access? or is it a separate entrance that you'd have a key for
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:44
The basement has external entrance and exit from the rest of the store. We can stay down there while shop is closed. Hours are 11am-9pm most days, 10am-12am Saturdays
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 15:44
that's reall nice
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 15:45
Our group doesn't really have tables at their homes to play, so we all play there. Have 3 battleboard sets, one 6x4 terrain mat, and we all chipped in for a small locker just for terrain so the Warmahordes people don't screw it all up
well, our "good" terrain
there's also a 10'x6' section of wall devoted to shelving for terrain. I love my FLGS.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 16:01
Yea I wish I had one like that
we have 4 tables set up between our group stored at our houses
and we just rotate houses to play at
cartag
@cartag
May 12 2016 16:12
We have 4 4x8' tables there, 4 4x4' tables, a ton of tables for card games, I love it. Tournament third Saturday of the month, regular painting days.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 12 2016 16:13
That's nice
Also - C:SM Angels of Death formations are fixed.
Still need to add contemptor and catafracci stuff but the base detachments all work now at least.