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28th
Oct 2016
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 07:48

On a side note to bs2, what will we do about the silent sis and the custodes?

They should be available (only) for unbound armies atm. And they don't have a codex (yet)...

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 11:23
Are 40k rules out for them? If so they would be added to the gst as unbound choices. Hide unless force type is unbound
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 11:25
Yes, they have rules, but as of now you can only include them in unbound
They only have the faction of "Armies of the Imperium" so they dont fit in any force org.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 11:30
Alright. I'll get them added today for when we cut over.
Gdubbs ofically saying that right now they are onpy for unbound but they will be up for more xD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 11:34
Cool
Actually I'll add them in their own files
It's unbound anyway so people can just add an unbound force
and it'll be easier to expand if/when they get more
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 11:53
πŸ‘ŒπŸ»
Plus, if you see their names in the rules
They have unique faction symbols
So yeah, we'll see more of them
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 11:54
Yea. They'll tie the record for the smallest CAT file now
taking the title from Officio Assassinorum
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 12:17
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 13:06
Assassins, Sisters of Silence, and Adeptus Custodes are ready for release once we push the new gst.
They are elite selections, set to hidden unless their force is unbound
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 13:28
Renegade Knights is incredibly tiny also. It has the FW knights in it too though, just in case
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 13:39
Yea, the FW knights take the smallest title away from that book. 61kb vs Sisters 25kb and Custodes 33kb
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 14:01
We have a high today of 88 degrees F. In Colorado. But climate change is a myth.
in OCTOBER
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:02
78 here in iowa :/
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 14:02
56 in Pennsylvania
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 14:02
I'm still wearing godamn Hawaiian shirts to work
Just to test, I stripped the FW knights out, and it's 34kb. With one model.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:03
Boom, sisters still win!
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 14:04

crunch

tehy just got stepped on
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:04
Pish, they're blanks, you can't see them
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 14:04
No, that would be if they were all John Cena
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:04
I would play that army.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:06
I love that video
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 14:07
I was trying to find just the JOHN CENA with fanfare but didn't have much luck
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 14:07
🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺
🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 15:01
Any word on when shit is getting copied over? We have one very overzealous Chaos player who's submitted three bug reports so far this morning
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 15:03
Not sure, waiting to hear from @amis92 on how he wants to handle it. Once we do copy over we should not just copy all of wh40kBS2. Just the ones we have vetted out. A lot of the ones we didn't touch are old and have had updates on 1.15
So, Chaos flavours, chaos knights, Assassins, Necrons, Space Marines, Tau, Harlys, Legio Custodes, and Sisters of Silence I believe are the ones we need to copy over once the GST is migrated
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 15:05
I'm basically commenting on everything with "Hakuna your tatas, it'll be fixed with the files meant for this version"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 15:06
I checked your comment
and I was disappointed
you didn't actually say Hakuna your tatas.
because that's gold.
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 15:07
"Undo the calamity that is your mammaries," "Sooth your boobs," "Don't have a rack attack"
De-stress your breasts
CALM YOUR TITS
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 15:10
I'm kinda concerned about moving the 2.0 data over until jon fixes the list bug on mobile.
It's enough of an annoyance to cause people to stick to 1.15 until it's fixed, but if we move the 2.0 data over those users are SOL.
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 15:14
Only if they update their data. If they don't, they're fine
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 15:22
And how often do the "you haven't updated your data recently, do you want to now?" Dialogues come up? I know every time they did I hit it to keep it happy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 15:23
The thing is, that wont' update the data since we're reverting to v1.
It'll only be an issue if they purge data (IE: Deleting 1.15, trying 2.0 finding the bug, then going back to 1.15 and getting fresh data)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 15:32
Speaking of updating data, does anyone know why every time I go back into my data folder nearly everything has at least 2 conflicted copies? And why does it keep them all?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 15:34
not sure, we haven't migrated anything over yet
Purge and re-link data?
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 15:44
It is converting all the data to the new BS version, that's the discrepancy. Delete all, re download, it'll be fine.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 28 2016 15:58
Genestealer Cults are ready for BS2
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 16:01
Your merge did something to other files it seems
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 28 2016 16:02
it says that but nothing actually changed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 16:03
Alright cool
ResidentSteve
@ResidentSteve
Oct 28 2016 16:49
Just a heads up for whoever is putting the Custodes and Sisters of Silence in, they've had detachments added to their pdfs on GW site so can now be used outside of unbound
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 16:50
Nice. I'll add those in
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 17:54
well poo. i cant download bs2 atm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 17:54
?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 17:55
says bandwidth limit exceeded when i click the link
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 17:58
Odd. Did you go from google or the front page
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 17:58
im on the github page
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 17:59
Go to the site
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:00
did release it was 2.0 there yet. the last news post still tells you to go to the github
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:01
Yes
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:06
im assuming i need the new catalog pointer as wel
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:06
No
Same one
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:07
oh. cool
they use the same file location to download to though?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:12
For what
Data?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:12
yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:12
It's whatever you set
Because of course they need to be brought in battleforged lists
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:13
lol, of course
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:14
Lol yup
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:15
"You know that ONE formation you Chaos guys got that made you competitive? Yeah, it's now negated by a single 75 point squad. kthxbye"
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:15
ikr
just run three squads of 5 to cover the board
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:16
Fuck that run 2 formations of 3 units
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:16
and they can't be targeted or affected by psychic powers either
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:17
Welcome tyanids that ally with imperium
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:17
because that would give your opponent 4 less psychic dice
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:17
unless it is a nova, beam, or template
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:17
@flakpanda not quite, other units in the vicinity can be hit, but the Sisters cannot
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:18
they cant be the initial target of the power, but can be hit by thought types of powers it in the way
those
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:18
Nope, they can't be affected by psychic powers, at all. It says other units in the vicinity that are hit are affected normally
so you could hit a hellfire template psychic power (no idea if that even exists, I play Khorne) on a unit directly in front of them, with the Sisters right smack dab in the middle of the template, and they are unscathed.
A unit that includes any models with this special rule can
never be targeted or affected by psychic powers – other
units in the unit’s vicinity that are hit by beam or nova
powers, or by witchfire powers that use templates, are hit/
affected normally. Any blessing or malediction psychic
powers affecting a unit are immediately nullified if the
unit moves within 12" of a model with this special rule or
vice versa.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:19
i just reread it, i misread it the first time
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:20
So they have a 12" bubble of NOPE around them
Not gonna lie, that kinda makes me want to make a female squad devoted to Khorne (Menstrual Blood for the Blood God!)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:20
/puke
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:21

khorneisforwomentoo

imagine a # in front of that
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:21
not saying it isn’t. just, it is period blood man
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:21
It's a naturally occurring bodily function, Khorne likes bloody noses too
Khorne cares not from where the blood flows
Only that it does
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:22
well let me know when you taste it and get back to me if you still think the same way
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:22
Yeah, and?
It's still a naturally occurring bodily function
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:23
i am aware
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:24
Would that make those who menstruate that much closer to being in Khorne's favour?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:25
probably. it just wasnt a plesant experiance for me
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:25
Menstruating?
ba dum tiss.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:25
tasting it
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 18:25
LMAO
Khorne doesn't drink the blood, just uses it for... I'm not exactly sure what it gets used for, just that he likes it
maybe he bathes in it, who are we to judge
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:26
skulls for the skull throne
blood for the blood bath
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:32
what is it i need to do to the catalog for bs2?
i remember reading something but cant find it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:36
need to do, nothing
eventually we will get them all converted to the new gst format
being all BRB rules can be linked to from gst
and forces (detachments) should be moved into the cat file and taken out of GST
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:37
well i opened deathwatch in bs 2 and it has some incorrect errors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:37
I made an issue for it
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:37
like min 1 bikers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:38
Constraints have changed in bs2
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:38
and min 6 warlord traits
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:38
so you'll have to open the cat file to fix those likely
or whoever maintains it
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:38
its me
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:38
then yea, you'll need to open the cat file to fix the constraints
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:44
ok, wasnt what i was thinking
it was just changing the constraint referance
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:45
Yep
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 18:55
hmm. SM are telling me i need min one cypher and techmarine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 18:56
Prrobably
Again, constraints have been changed in 2.09
*2.0
SM is fixed once we push the new gst
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 19:25
Harleys are now revision 2 in bs2 :) they are ready for the trip! :D
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 19:26
I just left mine at version 1 after updating in bs2 lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 19:26
might as well keep them at r1
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 19:26
no matter how many times I updated them
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 19:26
i incremented while i was working on them, made it easier to test on mobile. but now that we're ready to go - R1 it is :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 19:45
Formations added to Custodes/Sisters of Silence
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 20:32
❀️

My Custodesarmy is happy :3

7 man 500pts atm xD

cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:43
I wonder how many people are going to use Sisters in kill teams
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:44
They are kinda stupid strong for kill team
Cheap as shit anti psyker
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:45
my kill team idea? 10 khorne dogs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:45
I hate fighting khorne dogs
so many wounds
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:45
10 khornedogs is so mean
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:46
we have That Guy at our shop asking if all the units have to be from the same book
for a 200 point game
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:46
...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:46
Technically custodes and sisters aren't a book
so fuck off
would be my answer
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:47
im loving 5 man DW vets in rhino, 2 with fragcannons
it says in the rules for kill team they have to be from one faction….
is your that guy, that bad of a that guy?
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:49
Yes.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:49
damn
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:49
I'm glad I don't have that guy around me
unless that means ... I am that guy
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:49
That Guy is the reason I stopped playing 40k
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:49
whats a friendly 1850 ist for him?
list
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:49
a friendly 1850 list is Wulfen and superfriends
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:50

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:50
lol
the 1850 list i'm running tonight will be ... interesting
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:50
Or a knight allied with Taudar
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:50
well, it does have friends in the list
:p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:50
Necrons. CCB w/ void reaper, 10 immortals (2 5 man squads), 2 named c'tan, 1 transcendant c'tan, a vault, and a monolith
It's either going to wreck face, or get blown up turn 3.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:51
i wish monowall was still viable :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:51
Haha, the old apoc formations were always fun
have 100 warriors? sure, go phalanx.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:51
yeah
lol
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:52
I wish there was a valid build for one thing from the old Apoc books, the Slaughterfiend
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 28 2016 20:52
im trying to get a all iron hands bike list to start going to tourneys with
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:52
I love seeing multi-SHV lists - especially when they apocalyptically explode and chain react
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:52
I just want to have a random list tonight. So I went with the most random thing I could think of. 4 c'tans shooting random powers, and 10 immortals shooting tesla.
I did that once @alphalas
I have a 3 knight + libby conclave
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:52
Defiler with 4 CCW, if zerkers were within range, they could climb on, Defiler moves as far as he can, then they jump off and assault
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:52
I ran them too close once. One hit a 6 on his Blast
which killed the one next to it
which also rolled a 6
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:53
basically grabbing onto a murderous defiler
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:53
which killed the other one
That was bottom of 2.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:54
That's always a priceless moment. I've seen it happen in person once - asshole playing a full court tabled himself after Dante managed to force one knight to die
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:54
lmao
I want to get a court
I'll have it at tax time
I'm painting them as Lords of Cinder from dark souls.
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 20:55

We have a That Guy too in our local, played against me (pure Harleys) a 1000pts game and brought a Stormraven full of dakka.

The rest of his army stayed behind a building in his deployment zone

I dunno where these people find the fun :/

cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:55
They find fun in the ROFLSTOMP
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:55
I don't really care if I win or lose. I just have no skill at micro-managing, so I prefer larger models with less to think about
So If I lose a knight list on turn 3? K, w/e - it was fun watching them explode lol
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:55
don't give a fuck at fluff, or even painting their own models. The win is all he fucking cares about
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:55
Somehow I've actually managed to acquire one myself - 4 knights and a castigator
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:55
he doesn't even assemble his own models, pays somebody to do it for him
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:56
I want a lancer so bad
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 20:56
I really don't care about comptetiveness, fluff and fun is way more important to me
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:56
But I don't want to spend 200 to get one :/
My next super big purchase (as if 2 more knights wasn't one) will be a ta'unar
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:56
The castigator is actually pretty nice - I'd rather the aceron though tbh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:56
He will be my centerpiece to my tau army as my vault is to my necrons.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:56
I have one of them, too
And 2 rvarna
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:57
Those would be nice to have eventually too
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 20:57

That's why I'm starting my 1kpts Custodes army πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

2 units of 7 guys, I'll get obliterated by cultist's focused fire, but man, will I be a pretty corpse

My cap ofc will be named Kitten and I will shout oil things and innuendos all day
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:58
my age of sigmar 2k point list is awesome
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:58
And somehow I also managed to accidentally acquire a riptide wing and a fire base cadre
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:58
3 mortarchs, 6 morgheists
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:58
Lol nice
I play monster mash with seraphon
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:59
My 1k list for AoS is deadly, end up with 3 squads of Bloodreavers who have 4 attacks each, and To Hit rolls of 4+ make 2 wound rolls instead of 1
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:59
my serious tau list is riptide wing, 2 stormsurges, commander, drone net xv4, and 2 crisis suits with fusion
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 20:59
Oldblood carni is so good lol
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 20:59
Took down a Bloodthirster in one turn
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:59
Oldblood carni is a beast
Marina
@Marina42
Oct 28 2016 20:59

My AoS lists it's called Sexy Plans πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Lots of pinkies and daemonettes

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 20:59
pre-nerf the named slann lord was sexy
then the FAQ killed him
Damn @cartag
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 21:00
oo those are nice
cartag
@cartag
Oct 28 2016 21:00
Granted, the Skullgrinder needs to kill a hero within 8" of them for the 4+ double wound, but it's happened three games in a row so far
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 21:01
my next AOS purchase will be nagash
to pair up with some mortarchs
That way I have the Lords of Cinder in my Knights, and their undead Knightly attendants in the mortarchs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 28 2016 21:04
Fun - I personally take umbrage to Nagash - I started fantasy with tomb kings lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 28 2016 21:04
haha
He'll be much like my vault and eventual ta'unar. Centerpieces that don't see the board much