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Nov 2016
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 07:27
Hi Earl, totally agree about avoiding double work, I'd also rather fix problems then moan about them, and it seems with the update that there are a number of issues and I want help close them (which also makes things happen quicker for me as well ...)
To avoid double work, should I post an issue for every problem I know of already incase someone is already working on it/them?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 08:23
@Kohato can you keep me up to date on that shared entry thing? Cause if he says its a quick fix, i
*I'd rather not rework the knight codex with duplicate entries if theres a solution incoming
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 11:33
@FarseerVeraenthis Either that or just ask here. 40k's repo is rather active in gitter.
@Thairne sure. no fix yet - he did fix the duplicate force issue with a new desktop build
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Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 11:49
Sisters of silence is throwing a child error
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 04 2016 12:02
Well, that means that someone has been up to some serious heresy XD (sorry, had to do it :D)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 12:03

Feel free to fix it @alphalas

atm, i'm 1) Dead tired, running on 2 nights of 4 hours sleep, and B) working on SM bugfixes

If not, I'll grab it after SM
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 12:52
yeh. this is serious business. The past 4 days I've roughly invested about 20-25 hours into this stuff. I'm getting a bit tired as well :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 12:54
Oh i'm not tired of BS stuff. I enjoy maintaining.
I was just up watching game 7 2 nights ago
then I was up doing karazahn last night
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 12:54

of course we do. otherwise we wouldnt do it at all... but this sudden surge takes its toll

wow is still alife? :P

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 12:55
haha yea it is
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:19
@alphalas I get no error in sisters
Screenshot?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:28
seems very reminiscent of the ork problem...
it even says that theres an erroneous condition
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:33
It's only when paired with sisters/adeptus sororitus
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 14:34
The sisters have had a falling out /unhelpful
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:34
dude. You've got a sharp eye. DIdn't catch that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:34
I'm trying to find out where the disconnect is - I didn't duplicate Adeptus Sisters when I made the sisters of silence
so I'm not sure how it could interract
@Thairne I work Lvl 3 IT support for a tax firm. My job is to catch things my underlings can't, then yell at them for not catching that shit
:p it trains a good eye
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:36
I see.... I'm just a standard off the mill software dev and most of the time go "screw it. this works. let q&a do the rest"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:36
hahaha
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:36
helps that I'm not getting yelled at, but seeing the Q&A guy enter the room with a grin on his face is not a nice sight to behold
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:37
Ah yea
that shit eating grin means you fucked up
and he cought it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:38
that guy catches everything. Even stuff I didn't do anything with. "But since we're at this thing you could..." Yes. I could. But I dun' wanna!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:38
Also - The issue isn't with Sisters of Silence at all
It's all Adeptus Sororitas
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:39
...then why does it throw silence first?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:39
this is what he does.
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:39
Still trying to figure that out @alphalas
Haha
Oh validation testing
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:40
sometimes. He is devilishly good at breaking stuff. Who the hell ever thinks of lizards?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:41
What if you throw him for a loop and write a condition for shfohshgofs
@alphalas I have 0 idea why it threw sisters first. It likely just crashed out entirely because of the Adeptus error
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:42
that would be absolutely hilarious... but he'd just test for shfohshgofs2
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:42
I fixed that, uploading new adeptus cat now
Haha unlikely
it'd be asdjqwidjqo at that point
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:42
depends on how mean he'd want to be :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:42
Our QA is rather moody at times too
@alphalas I reverted Adepta to v1 as well since it's now converted for bs2.
So you'll need to purge data to get the new one
but once appspot picks it up (couple hours) you should no longer get that error
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:45
is that a convention agreed upon? Cause I've let the v just run on
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:45
Sounds good
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:46
Agreed upon between @cartag, myself, and @Marina42 - the ones who've done it :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:46
with the diff sctructure and the rework I can see going back to v1, but it creates a inconvenience for the enduser
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:46
Yep, that's the reason we did it to ours
It's a massive restructure in the xml
so reverting to v1 makes sense.
And given the amount of bitching the end users are doing anyway
one more purge won't hurt
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:47
but what exactly was gained besides a warm, fuzzy feeling?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:47
Warm fuzzy feelings x the number of codex files
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:48
xD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:48
As far as I'm aware, BS doesn't support major/minor versioning
This is a major change, standard versioning would call for either a major incremation, or a revert
Since we can't increment a major version number, we revert :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:48
yeah, as an IT guy I totally get it ^^
I feel.. the itch too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:49
It also helps to track our post 2.0 changes
It's much easier to see. alright 2.0 changes started at v1
rather than ... what version did x cat move to 2.0, and what version did y cat do it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:50
which is kind of the reason vor versioning in the first place :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 14:50
I'm on board with that way of doing things , almost excited to get home and figure out where to start...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:50
haha oh sweet summerchild... :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 14:51
"how hard can it be" (says the newbie...)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:51
in theory? not very.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:51
Haha, it's XML
It's simple
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:51
in practice? also not very, until you run into that very special thing that just won't work :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:52
Is anyone actually dedicated to the BA repo? I might actually take that over if not
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:52
I say simple until you dive into my 54,000 line SM file :p
Not that i'm aware of
My name is on SW, but i'm not really the maintainer
I just addressed a good bit of bugs a while ago so I slapped my name there for someone to go to if they had issues
So if you wanted either of those, feel free
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:53
I'll take BA - maybe wolves
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:53
BA are listed for Kangodo
that dude was great, but didn't see him in a long time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:53
Yea, Kang's been MIA for a year
He used to maintain SM
Then I took it and re-did it ground up
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:54
with senpai if I remember right
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:54
Aye
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:54
just looking at the files.. they are of so much better quality than a few years ago
if I remember the DA file that I picked up... gawds.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:54
Oh yea, we learn.
Nids is still a bit of a mess
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:54
Heh I actually know senpai irl lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:55
I'll be addressing that soon I think (nids)
Oh yea?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:55
cult and skitarii were pretty fine, Knights were cluttered, but not THAT bad
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:55
Tell him I took over SM for him since he vanished :p
Knights were Senpai as well I believe
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:55
Lol aight - he's been super-busy with school and firefighter stuffs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:55
No idea who did cult/skit at first
It's prettier than he left it
Smaller too
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:56
that axxisentropy guy if I remember right
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:56
because holy crap was it huge
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:56
yeah i used to take a look at it to steal ideas
and my OCD was ticking madly while looking at it :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:57
Oh? I tried to make it as organized as I could
what was bothering ya?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:57
I meant the earlier versions from '13
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:57
Ohh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:57
Can someone assign me to the two open BA problems? Can't figure out how to self-assign
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:57
now that you mention it I can see the connection between knights and old SM
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 14:57
Click "Assign Me" to the right of the issue
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 14:57
there's a link for that even, assign self
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 14:58
...ok, either I'm blind or I gotta do something first to get it to show -.-
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:00
Are you a data member?
blob
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:04
You're not a BSData member
you'll need to open an issue for @amis92 to give you author privalages
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:05
ah roger.
hmm - to find an error lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:05
I don't even think I could manually find you
*Manually assign
I don't mean you need to post an issue for an error
post a new issue - with the title Join Request
That's how we add new members
Amis will grab it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:07
#2659 yey lol
yeah last time i did data editing for BS was pre-git - so i'm new to that part.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:09
Ahh gotcha
Git makes it easier for sure. Same standards apply really. If you're fixing bugs on cat's you're not a maintainer of - just bring it up here in chat to make sure nobody else has it fixed in a non-pushed version
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:11
maybe i'll start working on the HH stuff too - seems theres only 2 or 3 guys over there.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:12
I'm sure they'd love the help with 2.0 conversion
40k is a pretty large group of authors. HH and Age of Sigmar less so
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:12
for obvious reasons
I myself adhere to the principle that I only touch stuff that I play and therefore understand
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:12
Haha.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:12
I'm similar - hence why i was iffy on wolves.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:13
Dirty secret time
I've never played Space Marines.
Or any imperium
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:13
what is this? I don't even...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:13
My roomate is a ultrasmurf player and I got tired of him bitching about issues with the old codex file. So I took it over and re-did it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:13
but seeing as i play all 3 systems, and more then two armies of each, i think i qualify lol
lmao thats awesome.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:13
I play Necrons, and tau
Oh. I lied. I do have a 3-knight and assasin army
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:14
well... firstly... THAT's HERESY! blam
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:14
expanding to a full Court of 5 knights
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:14
secondly... awesome!
well you won't get the Knights back from me, I have a single one... :P No wait, 2
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 15:14
I play eldar and I'm starting Deathwatch, who owns the Deathwatch codex file?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:14
is free as I remember
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:14
It's 3 knights with either an assassin strike force or I swap in a salamanders librarius conclave
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:15
i think Flak was doing DW?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:15
yep noone claimed it officially
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:15
I bought Sammael to proxy in as a librarian on a bike
Beacuse he looks badass.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:15
but I guess whoever made the file..
its a nice model
but finecast.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:15
@flakpanda is the one working on DW
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:15
I loathe finecast.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:15
Yea. I have a regular 3 libby bike conclave for tourneys
since Sammael is huge
they wouldn't look kindly on that
Last time I took the list to a competative setting
my 3 knights blew each other up
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:16
is bigger usually not worse? easier to target and LoS?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 04 2016 15:16
What's up?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:16
catastrophic explosion! S: D! 6 HP! Catastrophic Explosion!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:16
I was an inch too close. one fell - rolled 6 on apoc, D blast to the one to it's left. Killed it. Rolled 6 on apoc. D blast to the one on ITS left. Killed it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:16
i'm tau/sisters(both now)/admech(all)/assassins/inquis/BA/SM/Custodes/IG/DW/etc lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:16
It was a chain reaction
@flakpanda @FarseerVeraenthis was wondering who was Deathwatch maintainer
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:16
that's SO bad and unlikely that it's funny :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:17
Oh it was great. (Also turn 2
We were all ballin
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:17
its such a good sight though.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:17
*Bawlin.
shit was hillarious
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:17
'tis remembers me of the time when my callidus assassin was in CC with an assault seargent with combat shield
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:17
End of Turn 2 I had 3 libbies on a bike and a Vindicare on the backline
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:17
bastard blocked all 4 attacks with his 6++ invul
and killed the assassin in return.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:17
Oh ouch
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:18
I was.... surprised :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:18
Yea, I would be too
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:18
there i updated wiki to reflect me talking over ba.
thinking about piggybacking on Tempestus and LoTD too - i play them as well lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:18
No idea who does Tempestus
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:18
if you feel you'Re up to the task do so
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:18
as far as I know Legion hasn't been touched
I converted it to 2.0 but that's it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:19
senpai is listed for both.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:19
Ah, then yea - consider those open
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:19
senpai is gone for a long time
as you sure know :D
you could kick him in the butt to make him do it :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:19
yup - i'll let him know that i took them over lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:20
rub it in. Gently at first. Then let him know how everyone loves the new files.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:20
I haven't had any dissents on my new SM so far
just bugs to fix :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:20
lmao
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:20
Except people who can't understand to add a Core: Battle Company in for free transports
rather than 2 demi-companies
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:20
well, tbf, not everyone loves the new files right NOW lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:21
that's because they're outright broken ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:21
Hey, only half are broken
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:21
at least those not updated
why the need for a separate formation?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:21
is whiskeyjuve gone too?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:22
For battle formation?
*Battle Company
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:22
yeah, 2 demis do the same job and is RAW
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:22
Because it's MUCH easier to "Set Points to 0 if ancestor is This formation"
rather than Set points to 0 if you have 2 Demis and each one has a captain and a chaplain
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:22
fair.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:22
but not that much more complicated
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:22
Mine is RAW too.
Counts as 2 cores
Has 1 Captain, and 1 Chaplain
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:23
is there a formation called Battle Company?
That's RAI but not RAW :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:23
not for SM, iirc
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:23
Two Battle Demi-Companies form a Battle Company
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:23
Ba Yes. SM i dont think so.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:23
So yes.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:23
yes, but there is no such formation in the books
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:23
Two Battle Demi companies no longer exist
but a Battle Company does
That's true - I could rename it Core: Battle Company
but it's not a choice in a formation detachment anyway
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:24
no he means is there an actual formation sheet named battle company.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:24
just a gladius
oh, no there's not
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:24
see? not RAW ;)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:24
for BA there is, plus the blooded demi
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:24
Haha
Fair enough
Then I will take ease of impelementation over RAW
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:24
sorry, its just a demi now. they dropped the "The Blooded" from it with new dex.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:24
especially when it changes nothing
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:24
it confuses the end user obviously
book says " 2 demis = free transport"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:25
Only the ones who don't know how to read their codex.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:25
also fair, both points lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:25
No, it says 2 demis = battle company, which = free transport
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:25
i've never wondered about why they didn't just do a battle company sheet
added restriction for 1 chap and cm
and gave that the free transports
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:26
On pen/paper it's pretty easy
In XML, that's a very large amount of lines to change the points
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:26
and archaic :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:26
so I take the easy route with 1 line
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:26
9 in total for me :P
shared entry group dedicated transports with links to rhinos, backs and pods - link that to the units - AND if chap if CM then points to 0
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:27
Set points = 0
If
And
Ancestor has = 2 Battle Demi Companies
Ancestor Has = 1 Captain
Ancestor has = 1 Chaplain

vs:

Set Points = 0
If
Ancestor = Battle Company

Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:28
times 3
I guess creating an entirely new formation was done via magic? :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 15:28
@flakpanda the Black Spear strike force is missing from the versions of the battlescribe data I've seen so far... Also the vanguard Veterans and bikers entry always says "one more choice required" even when you have 2 or 3 already selected...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:28
Not all units get the same dedicated transports
Magic of linking, yea
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:29
maybe thats different for SM, but DA do not have all those toys
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:29
Linking?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:29
nah same dedicated transports
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:29
Ahh
Yea, I thought about doing a shared group for them, but then i'd be hiding certain ones based on what the parent is
ended up being cleaner to link them
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:31
until something changes, like a new transport or the removal of one
which is kind of a strawman argument
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:31
That indicates a new codex
Which will involve many other overhauls
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:31
@FarseerVeraenthis do you have newest data? shows up on iOS
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:34
@alphalas you can simply drag the png or jpg in here, no need for an uploading service ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:34
There is if you're on ios
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:34
ios. ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:34
gitter app doesn't allow import of screencap
which is dumb
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:34
know who the hell uses IOS anyway?
ducks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:35
ill keep that in mind for pc screencap though.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:35
There @Thairne I added (Free Transports) after the Battle Company entry
That should clarify things :p
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:36
better add another rule to remind the user to keep breathing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:36
^this.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:36
I thought I'd omit it
It's better for me in the end that way
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:36
never.ever.underestimate the stupidity of the end user :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:37
because if they dont remeber, the become no longer an issue?
they*
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:37
Ding ding ding
I'm a dark person.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:37
xD
yes. You obviously strayed from the light of the Emperor.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:37
my supervisor dives a hearse to work- im looking to buy one. say anything to you? :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:38
It fits my army's motives
Greater Good does not need idiots
And necrons ... well we have no free will
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:38
I wonder if and when tau gets the demiurg...
they scare the shit out of me in that BFG Trailer
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:38
Space Squats!
Can't wait
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:38
see, my tau are inquisitorial. saved accidentally by an inquisitor, and now theyre his loyal puppydogs lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:39
That trailer was great
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:39
drives* damn keyboard.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:39
I was like "yadda yadda common communist speech..... wat.... WHAT IS THAT... WHAT THE... WHAT.... WHAT.....!"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:39
My favorite necron list is pretty batshit insane lorewise.
The overlord of my dynasty is a crazy man bent on destruction of all.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:40
Demiurg were awesome in the TT, too
i usually saw a custodian, a bunch of demiurg, and a warsphere.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:40
He unleashes a Tesseract Vault, 2 named c'tan shards, and a Transcendant c'tan all while riding behind in his chariot flanked by 10 immortals.
Now that's a fun 1850 list.
Random powers galore!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:40
...exterminatus.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:40
I wonder if the Silent King will agree with that once he returns
never seen demiurg on the tt, i entered far too late for that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:41
Oh he'd agree with the force being unleashed
because he is currently being chased by the nids
He knows what that threat is
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:41
hm not that sure
yeah exactly because of that
with them coming you'd need help lest the galaxy becomes a void with no suitable hosts to return to flesh form
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:42
SK knows the necrons can enslave the shards again (if at great cost)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:42
(if I get my necron lore right)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:42
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:42
They can't do shit to the nids
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:45
how do the XWing boys not have a gitter room yet?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:45
AoS didn't until I set one up for them :p
most groups just never set one up or dont' know how
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:46
fair.
oh, thats why - its one guy running it and amis is just there.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 15:47
Haha
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:50
heh - got my cerastus standing and armed mostly, so he's guarding my keyboard.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 15:52
should turn and blast those fishhead of the planet!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:52
Had to adjust regular knight shoulders to fit him, and still need to figure out how to get grieves for him
Fish are friends, not food
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 15:55
@alphalas deleted all my data and downloaded it again, now it shows up... Happy days...!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 15:57
@FarseerVeraenthis good, glad i could help.
you know, i'm kinda surprised nobody's tried to make TCG repos for BS.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 16:00
For like mtg?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 16:00
FoW specifically, but yeah.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 04 2016 16:00
In mtg case, better tools available
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 16:05
@alphalas it's funny, I'm sure I did that last night as well, and it didn't work... Now to check the other little problemettes :smile: there is an issue that I raised yesterday that can be closed... lemme find the number (if someone doesn't beat me to it...)
I closed it myself :smile:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 16:11
ok, so #2603 - on pc baal and flesh tearers work fine - checking lost.
yup lost relics work on PC too.
checking iOS
damnit im going to have to get BS on my nook, too, arent i?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 16:19
#2529 and #2603 can both be closed.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 16:32
@Kohato #2658 - tell him to purge and ReDL?
just confirmed myself - posting.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 16:44
blob
So, you can see 2 vanguard veterans are selected, but the error still comes up that 1 more selection is required...
(and you can also see that I've just watched the tutorial on YouTube...)
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 04 2016 16:48
I'll bet the constraints are on the overall entry and not the model.
You probably need a selection entry group like this:
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Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 16:51
At present the criteria for the VV's looks like this:
blob
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 04 2016 16:53
Yeah. You need a selection entry group. Just put vanguard vets inside of it, and have the constraints at the group level.
The problem with doing it the way you did is that it is saying that you need 1 Vangaurd Vet unit in a unit of Vanguard Vets. AKA it is a circular reference that is basically meaningless.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 16:54
that's how it was when I found it :smile:
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 04 2016 16:55
The BS2.0 conversion process added the 0-1 constraint. You could just delete it, and you'd probably be fine.
It would allow someone to take a unit of vanguard vets that doesn't have any models in it, but it also wouldn't cost any points, so users probably wouldn't do that.
The biggest problem is the max constraint probably wouldn't work. You could probably add an infinite number of vets to a unit.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 16:57
which is a bit of a problem with the Deathwatch since they can only have squads of up to 5 Vanguard Vets...
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 04 2016 16:58
I would recommend an entry group. It just saves for future headaches.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 17:07
Righto, (be gentle I'm new...), now I have two buttons to select Vanguard Vets. one works with the max, one doesn't...
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 04 2016 17:08
Yeah, no problem. I'll help as much as I can. Feel free to ask questions.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 17:08
I fixed it, needed to remove one of the links to Vanguard Veterans... Just got to pop out, but I know there is another problem like this, so later I'll fix that and then push an update :-)
thanks for your help so far :smile:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 18:43
@GenWilhelm hey, DCo chap needs access to relics, as well as All units in a Lost brotherhood or DCo strike force
Just double-checked iOS and they're not options. If you don't fix it before I get home I can
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 04 2016 19:02
hey @FarseerVeraenthis i just fixed the DW units
will be pushed with next release
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 19:40
Righto, what do I do with my half-finished file? Just delete it and re-download??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 20:09
Whew.
War Convocation is online.
Not pretty, but it works.
I think.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 20:48
@FarseerVeraenthis you can, if you use github, simply discard your changes. that restores it to the current version that was committed
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 04 2016 21:01
smashing, that seems to have worked :smile: you guys (and gals) are ace :smile:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 21:08
#2666 wow, really? That's an issue to you?
You I mean the guy who posted
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 04 2016 21:08
lol
well... I guess... he does not want to use those 3rd party aegis things..
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 21:09
Guess not
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 04 2016 21:56
hey @Kohato , remember that bug you found in SoB? i just opened that roster on PC, and it triggered the child error to show in all the cats now lol.
its beautiful lol
ResidentSteve
@ResidentSteve
Nov 04 2016 23:44
A