These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

7th
Nov 2016
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 20:01
those reports about erroneus data files really are starting to annoy me. Everything works for me on desktop, so why do people get crashes and errors? -.-
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 07 2016 20:03
bs2 with old data?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 07 2016 20:03
Because they use old versions, or don't purge data, or don't update their data, or genetic user error, or PEBCAK, or any number of things
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 20:04
I didn't reset the v, so purging ain't necessary... but honestly, I dont feel like being first level support for every inquiry...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 07 2016 20:05
maybe a new pointer for the data would have prevented some things, but oh well
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 20:07
guess I'll prepare a standard reply.
Purge data, reinstall, redownload, try again.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 07 2016 20:07
people dont like to read, so you might as well
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 20:08
Sheeple are stupid. And many. Which is kinda the problem.
arabviking
@arabviking
Nov 07 2016 20:25
Hey guys, not an active member or antyhing. But the battle maniple in war convocation is wrong point wise. The Sicarans are 45 pts, but they are 185 pts minimum.
Just saying, because I almost submitted my list with over 150 points over the tournament requirement.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 07 2016 20:26
can you submit a bug
?
arabviking
@arabviking
Nov 07 2016 20:35
I can, just not right now.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 07 2016 21:09
is anyone working on the Eldar Craftworld Warhost issue??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 21:37
Seen. I'll take a peek at the infiltrators
Ruststalkers were wrong, fixed them today
THought I had a look at the Infiltrators too, but no codex at work..
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 07 2016 21:37
I've figured out why nothing was showing up, there are several "core" instances in the drop-down... I've managed to get them to show up, now I'm just trying to fix the rest of the choices...!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 21:38
ah yes, that happens to me too with every codex... quite annoying.
You need to use the ones from the GST, lest non-your-codex-formations dont work anymore
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 07 2016 21:40
righto... how do I know I've got it right??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 21:40
look at the ID's. The old ones are longer as far as I remember
and if you think you'Ve got it right, use a CAD and a specific detachment and check that everything shows up in both
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 07 2016 21:41
super, can do :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 21:43
@arabviking looknig ath the entry, a infiltrator is 35pts each - like the entry in the codex.
Unit cost is 185, just like in the codex.
Maybe you're confused because the Princeps is 45pts?
That's because 5x35 is just 175, therefore the princeps is 10 points more to get to the total cost of the unit.
Dont see anything wrong there
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 07 2016 21:51
the reason there are two "Core" "Command" and "Aux" options are because of the Mymeara FW codex... best get my skates on and get this sorted out!!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 22:00
alright, going to tackle #2646 now.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 07 2016 22:04
Well, I still don't get why some catalogues had their revisions reset to 0, that's what caused the mess.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 22:08
im suppost to strip out all the detachments from the catz file, right?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 07 2016 22:23
why?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 22:23
nevermind, i figured it out - didnt realize at first it was showing what is in the cazt and also whats in the gst. all good.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 22:34
@amis92 As to why... I personally didn't do it because it caused a hassle for the enduser. It's that kind of IT way of doing things.. no major revisioning, so resetting is basically the next "best" thing.
On second thought, going up to v200 or something would'Ve been easier in the end...
had a discussion with @Kohato about that a few days ago
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 07 2016 22:37

Yeah well versioning in BS could use a little tweaking :< But things they are, there is really nothing bad with v200, and the purpose of versioning is to allow BS to update without hassle. That purpose is completely lost when resetting.

Honestly, we could also use a little heads-up from Jon as to how BS would have treated that before the release, but oh well, no sense crying over spilt milk.

Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 07 2016 22:43
I agree. Using a philosophical advantage over the practical one... I can see the lure so to speak of resetting, but.. yeah.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 22:54
@alphalas Detachments are being moved from the GST into the CAT, not out of the CAT.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:01
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so that all is correct?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:02
Looks like it
Does Tempestus have it's own detachment?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:02
ok good.
not yet no.
all formations.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:02
then yea, it wouldn't have any in the cat file
grey means it's reading shared from GST
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:25
A few special rules we should add to the GST:
Invincible Behemoth
Unstoppable
Thunderblitz
Stomp
Sunder
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:25
Ok I think I got everything- I'll do another quick look and go from there
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:26
@tag8833 good idea - I can get those added in tomorrow
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:26
Also, I like to differentiate psykers by Mastery Level. So
Psyker (Mastery Level 1)
Psyker (Mastery Level 2)
Psyker (Mastery Level 3)
Psyker (Mastery Level 4)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:26
There is a psyker profile.
With a slot for Mastery level
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:26
Oh, @Kohato, didn't you (or someone else) say there's an alphabetical list of the USRs in the GST? MT still has all the USRs in it
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:26
OK. I'll dig into that tomorrow.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:26
Yes, GST has all USRs
part of the conversion is to delete USR from CAT files
and link to GST
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:27
With the exception of the ones I just listed I think I've got all of the USR's linked to the GST and out of the Ork Cat at this point.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:28
Yea, those aren't USRs in the BRB - they're under the unit profiles so they got missed
I'll add them though
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:28
Yeah, I get it. Just figured they'd be useful.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:28
agreed
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:28
That's what I thought- I'm gunna have to go through the shared rules section of MT and figure out if there are any others that need added to GST
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:29
If you have the codex
it's usually in the back
are the unique ones to that back
*book
cartag
@cartag
Nov 07 2016 23:29
Every USR from BRB is added inc word for word with the exception of two or three that are so long it just saya check BRB
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:30
In the Ork Codex they are scattered all over the place. Not to mention they come from like 5 campaign books, 2 Forgeworld books, and a smattering of Apoc books.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:30
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cartag
@cartag
Nov 07 2016 23:30
I typed them all in when I was bored one night
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:30
happy fun times lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:30
yea, he means he needs to find out which ones in the Tempestus CAT file are BRB or Tempestus (or AM)
cartag
@cartag
Nov 07 2016 23:31
Ah
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:31
But Tempestus should be easy. Not many special rules. They are my new army. Taking them to my 1st tourney on Saturday.
cartag
@cartag
Nov 07 2016 23:31
My process for covering is too long for me to type on my phone lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:31
Ah, GL
I have a team tourney next weekend.
2000pt, 1000pts of necrons, 1000pts of tau
CCB, 3 Bikes, 10 Immortals, and a T-vault. = 1000 points
Should be interesting to say the least.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:33
We are doing Combat Patrol individuals followed by Combat patrol 2 vs 2. I was thinking MT would actually do OK in combat patrol when the Tauroxes could survive a bit better, but too many S6 Eldar shots everywhere I look.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:33
Tauroxes are sturdy metal bawkes
But Eldar are Eldar
Troops getting Assault 4 S6 lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:34
now here's a dumb question - once i get this all sorted, do i upload through a webapp, or is there an actual app i should install?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:34
It's the Warp spiders that are killing me. I've got 18" rapidfire on my core guns, so I almost never get a rapidfire against spiders.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:34
at least spiders can only flickerjump once with the faq draft.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:35
Yep, that is a much needed clarification
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 07 2016 23:35
@alphalas You can use the webpage or there is a Github desktop app if you want to uses it. I use the app most of the time.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:38
heres a dumb question - IA books - rules from them - stay in CATZ or move to gst?
talking like agile, apocalyptic barrage, etc
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 07 2016 23:39
I put the IA books into the cat file for those armies
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 07 2016 23:40
ok so leave FW stuff in the cat - roger.