These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

9th
Nov 2016
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 01:09
why is "Fast Attack" showing up twice??
SAV Siege Assault Vanguard Detachment re-defines "Fast Attack" and all of the other CAD slot names.....
it sucks
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 02:44
It seems that Rule: Agile, Rule: Plasma Grenades, and Profile: Haywire Grenades are missing from the core rules.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 02:45
@Kohato wanted to keep FW rules in the cat, vs the gst
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 02:45
Plasma and Haywire are in the BRB, no?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 09 2016 02:45
I don't think those are in BRB
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 02:45
oh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 02:46
checking now
yes, plasma and haywire are indeed in brb now.
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 02:47
I've pushed a big update/fix for all the Eldar Craftworlds stuff. FW coming soon.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 02:48
ok - leave the AM stuff to me - i got that.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 03:51
Mother fuck
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 09 2016 03:51
what did you break?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 03:51
Sav is my fault. I copy pasted and forgot to redo the slots
I'll fix that in the morning
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 03:59
I should be able to start chugging through Astra miliwhat now in the morning as well - probably around 8est
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 07:59
did somebody say honour duel?!
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 08:37
My Wolf Claws are ready when you are, Angel :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2016 08:44
Now, now boys and girls, no scuffling!!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 09:34
what'ya sayin' Ivan, beat up Simon together first and THEN duel?
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 09:37
Hahahahah XD
No, he wouldn't dare interfere. This is a matter of honour. He surely understands, although he does seem a little pointy-eared from here... hmm... :D
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 09:42
Eldar trickery!
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Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2016 10:05
Hahaha! gracefully dodges bullets
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 10:06
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Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2016 10:07
Hehehe !
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 10:28
Dodge this!
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Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 10:31
Go get 'em! Good dog! Yes, bite his face off!
... NO! NO HUMPING! BAD DOG! For Emperors sake! sprays with water bottle
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 10:36
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah XD
I'm coming for you next, Angel :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 10:50
watches on in blood angel
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 12:00
Hope you're ready fallen one... I would hate to end this with a single swing!
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Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 12:33
Don't worry, cub. If I didn't faint from your smell, your blows won't do the job either, since they are the weaker of the two.
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:03
If my smell offends you, traitor, perhaps I'll take a bath after I'm done with you. At least I can take care of my smell, but there is nothing you can do that will wash away the stain from your honor. :P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:10
Honour can be restored by repentance, iron will and action. Can you restore your feral, demonic and corrupted "brethren" that you hide from the Imperium? Or are you too busy fighting imperial forces and invoking your "loyality"?
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:15
Name the points, single, infantry, HQ model, with upgrades up to mentioned points :)
https://rolz.org/dr?room=SWvsDA
Oh, and, first blood or second blood? :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:15
lol
this aint going good, DA chars suck as duelist ruleswise :D
Company Master (160pts)
Digital Weapons (10pts), Storm Shield (15pts)
Deathwing, Fearless, Grim Resolve, Hatred (Chaos Space Marines), Independant Character
Power Armour (45pts)
Infantry, Lightning Claw (15pts), Thunder Hammer (30pts)
Concussive, Shred, Specialist Weapon, Unwieldy
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:20
So, up to 160points :)
I'll try to fit my lord in there
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:20
can I fire overwatch? :D
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:21
Ok, I'll charge in that case :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:21
wait, lemme get that Melta... ;)
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:22
How do you have both a Storm Shield, Lightning Claw and a Thunder Hammer? :O
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:22
nice aint it?
Storm Shield is a separate option for 15 pts
Claw and Hammer replace a weapon respectively
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:23
Cool! I have to give up a weapon for the shield :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:23
exactly ;)
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:24
How many points does the melta add?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:24
T'was a joke ;)
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:24
:)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:24
we're dueling, not blasting your head off ^^
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:29
Wolf Lord (WS:6|BS:5|S:4|T:4|W:3|I:5|A:4|Ld:10)
Belt of Russ(4++)
Runic Armour(2+)
Storm Shield(3++), Wolf Claw(S+1|AP3|Melee, Shred, Specialist Weapon)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 13:30
Then my sanguinary guard will slice both your heads off
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:30

it's on!

Company Master
Infantry (Character)
6 5 4 4 3 5 3 10

Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 13:37
Either of you two vassal?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:37
huh?
Dark Angels remain victorious. Until next time, Wolf. Tell him he faught well... when he wakes up.
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:40
Ugh... where'd that hammer come from? O.o
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:41
Straight from Caliban :P
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:43
Right you are :D
The ancient rites have been honored!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 13:43
as it was written, as it was done. Honour is satisfied.
Purge some xenos, brother?
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 09 2016 13:44
Always, brother! :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 14:12
hey, just FYI - dawn blade/hunter contingent are both still broken
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 09 2016 14:21
What's broken about them?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 14:22
no command options, half the aux choices are missing.
and i just got the data fresh off appspot 20 min ago, so its not old data
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 09 2016 14:24
the last 2 commits to tau havent been released, so appspot wont give you those
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 09 2016 14:32
hmm, aux choices are all present on android
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 14:32
ok - i just purged again and took straight from git - works now.
means now i need to not take from appspot anymore i guess lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 09 2016 14:34
yeah, appspot take a while to update after a release, so I always check what version it gives me
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 09 2016 14:42
I found a fix for #2726 :smile:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 15:30
If you're testing for fix purposes - always use the latest git package
It will nearly always be more up to date than appspot
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 15:31
i wasn't testing for fix lol - trying to figure out how many points of tau i have lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 15:31
hahaha
That'll show ya
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 15:32
@GenWilhelm go ahead fix it - i'll get to actually working on the repos later today.
got some redneck carpentry im doing atm lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 15:56
10300pts, basic, no weapon upgrades.
scratch that, 12645 with all my FW stuff - again, no weapon upgrades.
i have a metric shitton of tau.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2016 16:05
its less than you think... I once calculated WYSIWYG 6500pts of DA.
it's not much when lined up...
especially compared to "WHAT ELSE DO I NEED!"
That's just the Kroot
And most of my tau behind them
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 16:09
Where's the home-made orca?
I see a tigershark there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 16:09
I'm skipping the orca - next scratchbuild is the manta
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 16:10
Haha nice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 16:11
Lol that picture is about a year old - I'm looking at it now and half my bigger stuff (including my taunar) isn't in that pic
i have a problem lol
Like my all kasrkin tempestus army :
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2016 17:41
That is a lot of Tau...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 19:54
@alphalas So IA2 2e IS more recent than Aeronautica?
I couldn't find any solid date besides 2013 for both
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 19:57
The last aero came out in 11 iirc
12, sorry
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 19:58
Gah, sorry - I was thinking IA: Apoc
Yea that makes sense.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 19:59
Ia2se came out in 13, after ia:apoc (13)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 19:59
Ok, so it's newer than the 2013 apoc too
Thanks
That was the subject of a points issue with the lucius pod
IA2se changed it from IA Apoc (2013)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:00
Correct
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:01
And the best part about it
technically all of them are invalid!
Because why update things for 7th -.-
Gogo gw.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:02
The apocs are dumb - there's ia:apoc, ia:apoc2, ia:apocSE, and ia:apoc(13)
The word you're looking for is not invalid, it's grandfathered
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:04
Ehhh. Invalid until addressed.
Look at relics of the armoury
Master of the Forge doesn't exist
so in 7th Ed, Relics are invalid. a FW email was floating around last year about them making an FAQ addressing it - but they never did
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:07
Neither does a BA reclusiarch- unless you follow fluff and count astorath
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:08
Exactly
So parts of the books are useable - parts are invalid unless addressed.
Same thing as when we have fun things like Harlequins
I think it was harlys.
Someone was updating that supplement and it was referencing things that flat out didn't exist anymore
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:09
DE, probably
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:10
Yea I think it was
"X unit can take Y weapon. For Y weapon, see Codex: DE"
And it doesn't exist there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:10
That stuff dates back to ia:apoc2, iirc
Which means almost 5e
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:10
Yea :/
We make do with what we can ... but GW does not value consistency very highly
My favorite recent example is the Necron FAQ
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:12
Oh yeah, helfrost vs RP
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:13
Oh that one isn't really contredictory - RP says it can't be used against wounds that remove models from the board.
Helfrost does that
so, no RP
This is the one I was talking about
blob
Does terrain count as terrain when making a charge? Yes.
Does the rule I have that makes terrain count as open ground work in Charge? Yes.
like seriously
which is it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 20:58
Woo, back down to 1 page of issues, and 0 Space Marine issues!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2016 20:59
Yup
Half the issues on the page are my problem-.-
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 21:00
Now that i'm caught up with SM, i'll be trying to help convert/clean the rest of the files.
I'll be taking a look at Eldar and Nids probably tomorrow to fix and re-link things
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 09 2016 21:51
@Kohato I think your glory didn't last for too long xD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 21:51
Pish, that was a space wolves bug
Gray Hunters don't exist in Space Marines :p
I think Gray Hunters are SW ... might be Grey Knights now that i think on it ...
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 21:53
Hey guys I think I'm doing something wrong
When I clone the repo and branch it, I should be able to open the data files in BS Data editor right?
Or am I skipping a step?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 21:53
I mean ... you'd branch, then clone locally
but yes
Doing it either way you should be able to open the files. but Clone then branch means you're cloning the wh40k repo and not your branch
i think
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 21:54
woops
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 21:58
Yea, Gray hunters are Space Wolves.
wow, why are they space wolves. Would make much more sense as a Gray Knight :/
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 21:59
Grey cause they are old and Hunters cause they go on great hunts in search of Lemun Russ
?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 21:59
Huh, alright
fair enough
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 21:59
Leman*
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 22:00
I love how Russ said, dudes. I'm leaving now. For good. Don't come look for me. Seriously. Live life and i'll come back when I'm needed
what do they do? Spend the next 10,000 years looking for him.
oh and that was word for word btw
"Dudes, I'm leaving now"
Russ was pretty chill
Urg keep getting this error
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 22:04
O.o
We didn't touch the GST ID.
They amtch up just fine
GST and what's in wolves.
<gameSystem id="e1ebd931-a209-3ce4-87b4-d9918d25530b" name="Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition" revision="2002"
gameSystemId="e1ebd931-a209-3ce4-87b4-d9918d25530b"
Is your GST saved in the same directory?
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 22:06
Um dont think so
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 22:07
That'd be why
you need to clone the entire repo
not just the 1 catalog
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 22:07
ok let me try that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 22:07
well, really just the catalog and the GST
but it's safest to clone the entire thing
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 22:09
got it works now thanks :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 22:11
np
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Nov 09 2016 22:58
hmm
so I may have merged some changes into master that didnt belong to me
not sure how i did that
Eric Falsken
@efalsken
Nov 09 2016 23:45
@Kohato , @amis92 : can we please take away the "commit to master" ability from all but a core few? It shouldn't be hard to use the pull-request feature to double-check that commits don't go stomping on other people's changes.....
In fact, I'd recommend only the catalog maintainers have ability to commit to master.
a large number of the project members have never made a commit or only a single commit. GitHub is set up specifically so that you don't need full access to a project tobe able to submit fixes.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2016 23:55
Works for me, I have no control over it though :p