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Nov 2016
That makes me happy
It's not perfect, but it works
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:08
What's the difference between "Frag & Krak Grenades, Close Combat Weapon" and "Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Close Combat Weapon?"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:08
I have not even begun to dive into that
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:08
ah lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:08
This roster is full of shit like that
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:08
nm, forget I said anything lol
Don't you hate that when you take over a data file?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:09
I was referencing the fact I screencapped it from an iPad lol
Yeah tell me about it
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:09
oh lol, I hadn't even realized that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:10
Then there's the whole issue of DFTS flyers vs non DFTS flyers
Yeah that's the Gitter app snapped to a teamviewer window
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:10
CSM has both DFTS and non DFTS flyers, if you want to check how I did flyer wings
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:11
Did you do separate shared entries for each?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:11
Yup, it's easier that way when referencing some formations that take "1 Heldrake" for instance
Not 1 unit of Heldrakes, 1 Heldrake singular. Can't do Flyer Wing for that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:13
Oh god they fucked up the constraints for the flyer wing. The min2 in parent is apparently not hooked to anything? Maybe?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:14
Have fun with that lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:14
Jebus
I want to just say fuckit and remove the min2 but that'll fuck with the wings then some high speed individual will post a bug about how it doesn't populate the minimum for the wing. -.-
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:17
The min2 should be fine where it is
I'm more curious about the min/max 0 in parent on the Sky Talon
lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:17
Yeah I don't even lol
it's throwing min2 errors in the roster editor on iOS for thunderbolt and lightning. -.-
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:18
Is it very very frightening?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:19
Galileo Galileo
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:19
oh yeah, those are totally fucked
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:20
:+1: to muppets
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:23
Muppets rule
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:27
Indeed
Isn't there an easy way to change category?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:27
Nope
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:28
So purge are recreate - fun
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:28
Trust me, I've been pushing for it to be implemented
oh wait, where are you meaning change category?
I was meaning on shared entry links
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:31
Yeah change categories- vulture is listed as HS - supposed to be FA
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 02:31
oh, if it's in shared, it doesn't matter
if the box is greyed out it's really not that important, just link to it in the base level and set what category you want it to be there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 21 2016 02:32
Ah ok
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 03:32
I can't believe what is happening right now in North Dakota
Right now, as I type this, riot police are firing tear gas and water cannons at peaceful unarmed water protectors in below freezing temperatures
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 08:30
Well, you're getting trumped really fast
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 08:56
dude, that sounds ridiculous... I heard about these protests and so on a while ago, can't believe it has stepped up to this level...
not to be-little what's going on in North Dakota, I was looking at some different CAT's last night trying to pick up some of the "quick fixes" from the issues list... well turns out they weren't very quick! (surprise!) So, for example, with the Tyranid monstrous creature rules, what's the best way to implement them? do you have to link all the rules individually to each creature, or could we put together a shared group link in the GST (maybe?) for the special rules for Monstrous Creatures??
and the second question is - for the Ork codex, should we only implement the 'Decurion' from the latest version, or also include the previous version?? I looked last night and it seems both are there atm, but that makes things a little tricky to keep track of (well, for me at least...)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 11:02
For monstrous creatures you just have to link all the relevant rules, there's no clean way to group them all into a single entry.
And I believe both the orks waaaagh detachments are valid, but you should check the faq
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 11:05
Thanks for that, always nice to start off in the right direction than wasting time doing things wrong... :smile:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 19:01
@GenWilhelm I give up
Do you know what books the loyalist titans are in these days?
I think it's one in 1 book and one in another. With the Warlord only in HH:5 and The Emporer Class not yet reprinted for 7th
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 20:37
@cartag I win.
9 in 1 go :p
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 20:43
I also didn't have my data file bad enough to need 9 corrections. I win :D

sickburn

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 20:46
I know :( I still have 4 larger bugs left.
Fixing relics, fixing relics limiting to chapter selections, fixing titans, and finding Culln in vraks.
so 2 larger bugs, and 2 normal ones
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:00
Anybody mind if I call dibs on the Thousand Sons data file when it comes out? I mean, I am the Chaos guy, it's only fitting...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:01
Go for it
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:01
:+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:03
Depending on how the book is worded though - Might want to roll it into CSM
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 21:03
@Kohato it's in the main apoc book under war zone: armageddon
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:04
2013?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:04
So the 1kSons aren't getting their own entire book, just the next Fenris book, okay
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 21:05
yeah, its the 2013 one
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:05
and the Traitor Legions then in December, got it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:05
Yea, it seems like 1k Sons are going to be CSM options in the Fenris book
and then Traitor Legions will expand on those options
for other legions
is what it seems like anyway
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:05
Works for me
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 21:05
who knows, anything's possible...
I take it you'll be doing a release soon then @Kohato ??
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:06
If by soon you mean 5 minutes ago
Then yes.
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:06
:+1: lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 21:07
hahahahaha
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:07
I'm done today. I polished off 9 bugs and will work on the others tomorrow
After I find that damned reaver profile
Why can't FW just say the Tempest Rules are 40k.
They're doing it with Mymera 2e anyway -.-
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:07
the base stats for the Reaver titan should be in the CSM file
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:08
Stats are right, it's the points and options that I have wrong
I took them from HH:5 thinking they were 40k compible
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:08
What book is it in?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:08
@GenWilhelm says Apoc 2013
I can't find it for the life of me
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:09
one sec
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 21:09
so I made a couple of tweaks, to fix the Ork codex detachment issue, and I've loaded Smash onto all the tyranid monstrous creatures, I also took the Corsair raiding party out of the GST... shall I leave them or do another release?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:10
Is this the same TOC you're looking at @GenWilhelm ?
blob
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 21:10
no, that imperial armour
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:12
blob
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 21:13
warhound.png
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:16
wow, the Chaos versions are 10 points more, and they get Dirge Casters, only difference.,
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 21 2016 21:16
dont they also get daemonic possession?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 21 2016 21:16
If they pay for a Daemon Knight of _ upgrade for 100+ points
and Dirge Casters in our dex are 5 points, not 10.
that's for Reaver, for Warhound the daemon Titan of _ is 50-100 points
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:24
Ah, perfect - thanks guys
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:33
ah ffs what happened now...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:34
?
I closed 9 issues at once
I know, earthshattering
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:34
BS update broke all my HQs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:34
Didn't mean to rouse you.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:34
didnt even notice...
;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:34
BS version of off/on again
purge redl?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:35
cmon dude :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 21:35
"which version of Battlescribe are you using..?"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:35
I'm not sure what jon did in the last push
which HQs are broked.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 21 2016 21:35
:-P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:35
my constraints now add up somehow and put 2 bolt pistols and chainswords on
min max 2 in entry group and min max 1 for each hand
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:37
umm, whats the word
Collective?
It used to be wonky in 2.0 so I stopped using it.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:38
and since we cant set default by modifier I have to rework every HQ....
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:39
Maybe it was fixed/broken?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:39
nope nothing collective
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 21 2016 21:39
hrrmm
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:39
just a simple thing to se min max with relics that dont trade for weapons
even ignores max 1 constraint on bolt pistols...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 21 2016 21:54
anyone of you smart ones see the issue? DA Company Master as an example.