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24th
Nov 2016
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 24 2016 08:16 UTC
He'll probably have a 2+ re-rollable invulnerable save. Combine that with a successful cast of Invisibility and he's untouchable.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 24 2016 08:24 UTC
When I saw the statline I was like "tough, but not incredible tough".
And then i remembered Magnus is not a fighter, but a sorcerer.
Which makes me expect that the brawny primarchs will top that easily, since they won't have 15 FUCKING powers.
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 24 2016 08:29 UTC
If he does have invisibility, he'll be getting hit on 6's in CC as well. Let's say 2 attacks somehow manage to pass through each turn. Then they face the re-rollable 2++, which has a 97.3% chance of saving the wound. He'll be far tougher to kill than a full unit of Ravenwing with their 2+ re-rollable Jinks... :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 24 2016 08:59 UTC
currently he has a 4++ stock. with rerolling 1's. So basically a 3++ stock considering chances. Which is not bad, considering he doesn't even HAVE an armour save, so grav do chilch. Plasma wounds on 4's. And yes, I'd bet my ass off that there is some invul boosting power in his psychic powers.
not fragile by ANY definition
Ivan Milanov
@SuperPranx
Nov 24 2016 09:01 UTC

I took the best case scenario for an attacker (excluding FNP), in the case where Magnus has the 2+ re-rollable inv. save and Invisibility. If the attacker re-rolls his To Hit and To Wound rolls and wounds on a 2+, Magnus has 99.99175% chance of saving the wound. It means that approximately 1 in every 1000 wounds will go through.

That being said I don't think he'll have access to Invisibility with those percentages :)

P.S. Didn't one of the new powers they showed give +2 to invuln saves?

Austin C.
@capitaladot
Nov 24 2016 11:27 UTC
The 1.x file was.
Wrong gitter, sorry.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 24 2016 12:00 UTC
yeah, the leaked, most likely wishlisted, primaris power of the tzeentch discipline.
That thing would be as broken if not more than invis since it ALSO deflects back with S3 AP3 Blind.
as a freakin PRIMARIS which you can get GUARANTEED.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 12:03 UTC
Does he have a shooting attack? Other than witchfire? Sounds like either tarpit him asap or simply run away... Although, that's easier said than done since I assume he has wings...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 24 2016 12:04 UTC
we don't know yet
I remember some article that gave him several weapon options, but I THINK those were mostly melee-named weapons. But a Guardian Spear has a bolter attached to it, so....
and tarpitting won't stop him from casting.
I don't think Magnus wants to get into cc anyway. He is a sorcerer. That is his focus, his strength and his ability. He's not Angron or something like that
but he can kick some dudes around in CC without breaking a sweat
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 12:25 UTC
Sounds messy... Bravely run away (kill the rest of the army first...)
@raptor1770 are you looking at all the Space Wolves bugs? I'm sure there are some duplicates...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 15:33 UTC
@raptor1770 i assigned you to all of them - im not sure whats a dupe and whats different.
wow, really FW? Deathwatch can take a stormbird?
does anyone object to me putting the stormbird into their cats? @raptor1770 @cartag @flakpanda ?
who is currently running gk?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 24 2016 15:54 UTC
Hisop (MIA) and Amis
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 15:55 UTC
@amis92 do you mind if i drop the sokar in?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 24 2016 15:55 UTC
up 4 grabs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 15:56 UTC
eh fuckit i'll thake GK.
take*
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 24 2016 15:57 UTC
Sokar should be in sm I think
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 15:57 UTC
it is.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 24 2016 15:57 UTC
If not fee free. I think I added tho
Kk
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 15:57 UTC
i stole it from SM lol
alright, i'll stick it in GK when i get back from feasting on the carcass of domesticated avians.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 24 2016 15:59 UTC
delicious turkey?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 24 2016 16:00 UTC
Farfetch'd?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Nov 24 2016 16:00 UTC
haha was he domesticated though?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 16:50 UTC
How is it people don't understand buying models and upgrades together to simplify? Referring to the GSC report @GenWilhelm just closed
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 17:16 UTC
Probably because thats not how it works in the codex. Writing a list by hand you just say 1 Squad (50pts), 1 Leader Upgrade (10pts), 1 Weapon Team with Lascannon (25pts).
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 17:20 UTC
Isn't it worded like AM where you replace 2 guys with a team?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 17:21 UTC
yeah
"2 dudes may form a team"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 17:23 UTC
Ok it's not quite worded the same
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 17:24 UTC
hows it worded in AM?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 17:24 UTC
While there is the blurb about a team being 1 2w model it isn't quite as explicit- in AM it literally says "replace 2 models with one weapon team, armed with:"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 17:25 UTC
Ah, different words with the same result :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 17:26 UTC
Agreed
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 17:53 UTC
That's fine @alphalas
cartag
@cartag
Nov 24 2016 18:11 UTC
I'll get it added to Chaos
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 19:12 UTC
and for my americans, Happy Thanksgiving!
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 19:35 UTC
@FarseerVeraenthis what did you do in the last merge pull for deathwatch?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 20:03 UTC
@/all im having a problem with deathwatch cat. default selections are adding 2 of the selected item instead of 1. can i pick anyone’s brain about this? I’m at a loss as to why
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 24 2016 20:04 UTC
Am is doing it too
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 20:04 UTC
sigh...
any leads?
cartag
@cartag
Nov 24 2016 20:17 UTC
Chaos also, it's a battlescribe bug
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 20:17 UTC
lame
anyone brought it up to jon yet?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 20:37 UTC
@flakpanda I moved the Black Spear Strike Force formation decurion style detachment from the GST to the CAT... I don't think I twiddled with anything else...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 20:45 UTC
yeah, i looked through it. just started with the last time it was updated
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 20:57 UTC
Cool 😎 speaking of moving formations out of the GST, I thought I'd moved the Corsair one out... But it still shows up...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:00 UTC
the latest GST (v2011) doesn't have it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:01 UTC
Righto, time for a full purge of the data on my phone then...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:02 UTC
oh yeah, the version number wasn't incremented so appspot won't pull the changes
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 21:02 UTC
^
well, ypur phone wont
ypur
…….
your
i can type
after appspot updates itself, you have to manually pull the data
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:03 UTC
yeah, BattleScribe only pulls files that have a higher version number than the data it already has
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:04 UTC
I thought I'd done that, but obviously not properly... All good now :-)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 21:05 UTC
i just force pull down once a wekk on my own unless im working on something i need to test it out
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:05 UTC
Just a couple of detachments to move to the CAT s now... I don't fancy moving the Space Wolves ones...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:05 UTC
I'll move them if you want
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:07 UTC
Well, I had twiddle the other day and it didn't go well, so be my guest :-)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:07 UTC
Pretty much a cut and paste job :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:07 UTC
Especially combined with the Space Wolf bugs at the moment...
Yeah, cut and paste, see how that goes... ;-)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:08 UTC
Yeah, the sheer number of issue for space wolves is starting to bug me
Done
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Nov 24 2016 21:12 UTC
lol, the bugs are bugging you
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 21:14 UTC
Haha, I would work on them myself but I don't want to step on anyone who's working on the cat atm
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 21:31 UTC
That would be @raptor1770
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 24 2016 21:58 UTC
@GenWilhelm you know, when I tried to copy and paste the detachments but things happened... Anyway, just a couple more to move from the GST now :-)
*but = bad
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 22:00 UTC
The trick is to not use the data editor ;)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 23:22 UTC
Hey @Kohato @Thairne can either of you confirm if the stormbird is showing on iOS for BA or SM? It's not showing on my end in either with having show FW enabled
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Nov 24 2016 23:50 UTC
@alphalas the Sokar isn't linked anywhere in the BA cat, its just a shared entry atm
just checked SM, same story there
cartag
@cartag
Nov 24 2016 23:52 UTC
CSM it's not even a shared entry yet... only because I haven't synced a commit yet
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 24 2016 23:56 UTC
:+1:
I'm on my way home now so I'll fix that as soon as I'm there
Thanks guys - appreciate it