These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

7th
Dec 2016
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 07 2016 00:11
@FarseerVeraenthis it is almost like ppl dont know there own codex or read things first...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 07 2016 03:32
we need a bug fixing spree… 2 pages worth.
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 03:33
don't count the Chaos ones, they'll be taken care of (hopefully) Friday
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 06:49
I've been trying to catch the low hanging fruit but there are a lot of space Marine bugs as well as chaos bugs and I don't want to upset @Kohato...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 08:01
And yes, @flakpanda those stupid bugs are a little annoying...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 10:30
@FarseerVeraenthis there seems to be an issue on iOS with loading detachments in big files. People have been reporting it for TS as well: #2947.
Also #2954.
Not sure if we can resolve it or if its something Jon should be looking at.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 11:31
I was surprised how long it took to load the space Wolf list last night... Is it a BS bug or a problem with the way we've built the data...?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 11:35
I feel like it's just the way the data is handled. It seems to happen with most, if not all, FBDs.
Instead of just loading a single instance of each unit for the Force Org slots, it has to load many units multiple times depending on which formations are available in the detachment.
My guess would be it's a limitation of BS, especially on iOS, and there's very little we can change in the data to improve performance.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 11:47
Hmmm... Have to wait for 8th ed to come out when they get rid of these crazy formations (this is not serious)... So we should send a balloon up to Jon then surely? What's the best way to do it??
I hope it's nothing to do with the formations being in the Cat now rather than the GST...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 11:53
I think it's probably a repercussion of the 2.0 data structure being more resource intensive, compared to 1.15.
And yeah, I'm not sure what the best channel to reach Jon is.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 07 2016 13:53
you can msg him here
or open a bug on uservoice
or even try the reddit, however that is pretty public
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 13:59
The issue with FBD for CSM is my fault. I messed up.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 14:01
What's the issue? Space Wolves FBD is showing the same symptoms.
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 14:02
When I copy pasted a different force and renamed to Grand Coven, I didn't set the dropdown to Aux/Core/ Command like I should have
Invalid id's made it not work on mobile, they're pickier than desktop is it seems
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 14:09
I'm not sure I follow, Grand Coven looks identical to Black Crusade.
And I assume BC has no issues on mobile.
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 14:37
On PC, yes, try starting a Grand Coven on mobile.
And if anybody wants to use my stock response if there are a bunch of CSM bugs that pop up while I'm at work: "This will be changed in a huge patch when Traitor Legions comes out. TL will be included in it."
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 14:40
Yup, I just saw that, next week we'll need to hire rentokil...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 14:41
Grand Coven works fine on android, but I dont have an iOS device to test that.
but what I'm saying is they're identical in the data file so why should they behave differently?
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 14:42
They're not identical in the data file though
let me bring all this shit up, one sec
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It will not have the same ID there as what is in this screenshot
It's because when you copy/paste the Force Entry, it generates new IDs. You have to select Aux/Core/Command from the dropdown just beneath the id to allow it to work with everything else
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 14:44
but they have the same id, otherwise it wouldnt work on other platforms
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 14:45
Funny, because they didn't in v2006 or v2007, thus prompting the error, same with the CD and their new FBD not working properly
That is the cause of the problem in the CSM/CD books. If that's not what is happening with SW, then it's a different issue
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 07 2016 14:46
I'm looking at CSM v2007
csm forces.png
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 14:47
Then I don't fucking know
And my headache will only continue with TL coming out.
Remind me again why I'm doing this since I haven't played 40k in over six months?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 14:54
Because you love the game, just not the people local to you...
Would it be easier to collect all the CSM issues into a checklist? Then you can keep track, users can keep track and everyone knows what's going on..?
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 15:04
I have a list on my computer
And people would still submit bug reports for everything, multiple times over
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 15:16
There is that... Just a thought, I'm sure you've got it under control :-)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 07 2016 16:57
@cartag so CSM rewrite? lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 18:03
Surely it has been mostly rewritten anyway...?!
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 18:31
It was pretty much rewritten when I took it over
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 19:05
Side note, I love my job. I've spent most of today teaching sign language and painting.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 20:07
That is actual fantastic - super hero by day, programmer by night...
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 20:09
Lol, I work at a mental health facility as a peer support specialist. Think AA sponsor for mental health
Somebody who has lived through hell and is helping others through it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 20:10
AKA superhero...
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 20:12
I'm just like the rest of you, put my spandex on one leg at a time...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 20:19
:+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:08
Aha! Traitor Legion leaks per chance?
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:08
aye, getting implemented now
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:14
Mega :smile:
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:15
I've made it through AL, WE, and WB so far, almost done with BL.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:17
Good work :+1:
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:17
gracias
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 07 2016 22:32
@FarseerVeraenthis yea ... i'll actually make time to fix my bugs
soon^tm
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:37
Hehehe! That's cool, I just don't want to bash out a couple of little ones to find you're halfway through a major update that then gets completely broken...
(see previous issues with the Ork CAT...)
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:38
Friendly warning: If you touch CSM I'll track you down and gut you like a fish.
Friendly warning over :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:39
Message received loud and clear!
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 07 2016 22:50
Sounds fun. Opens can cat
CSM*
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:51
Don't make me use this.
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flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 07 2016 22:52
pushed button ...... Nothing happened
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:53
(yet) he has to finish the CAT first... You've got time to find a really good place to hide... In fact, if you want to build it first you've probably got time for that too :-P
cartag
@cartag
Dec 07 2016 22:54
I have implemented 40% of it in the past two hours.
You don't have that much time.
And I just found out my first date that I got stood up for last night, that was rescheduled for tonight, just got cancelled again.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 07 2016 22:57
Those Slannesh wenches, you just can't trust 'em...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 07 2016 23:31
@FarseerVeraenthis when a AM bug crops up, please just assign me instead of auto-closing.