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18th
Dec 2016
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:02
@Kohato i'm having to redo the whole sisters cat - thank god marines makes sence and i'm able to use it as a template.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 02:03
YW :)
Be glad you didn't see it before I redid it for 2.0
It was fugly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:04
it probably looked a lot like sisters.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 02:04
A good deal like SW actually
if you ever peeked at that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:04
everything was an entry, all the weapon lists were duplicated for each entry....
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 02:04
haha yep
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:04
barely any shareds...
shudders
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 02:05
Oh yea, it's painful to read
on another note, shame I can't find beastclaw raider epub
They're a rather fun AOS army to play
Hammer of wrath from mammoths is awesome
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:06
i think @flakpanda said he has it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 02:06
nah, said he didn't after all :(
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 02:06
ah damn.
missed that.
where did you stick primary detachment in sm?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 04:19
@Kohato @GenWilhelm either of you two up?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 04:21
No
I think I got rid of it
Served no purpose since I wasn't hiding rules based on it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 04:22
kk - would you mind doing a quick onceover of what i have so for for SOB?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2016 04:23
I will tomorrow if you'd like
In bed on mobile atm
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 04:24
sure - i'll put up a db link. it's not quite playable yet, but i wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something stupid.
only things done are the cannoness, the priest, jacobus, sister squad, and the command squad
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 05:57
whelp, that actually finished faster then i expected - SoB live on github, no release pushed.
good fucking night.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2016 07:32
Sleep tight! Speaking of entries instead of shared entries the Tyranid CAT is in some kind of purgatory between the two, I added kill team to it the other day but it probably needs a proper working over...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 14:37
Ugh I'm awake
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 18:12
Anyone had a chance to go over SoB?
Oh and if anyone cares I did leave Celestine in the cat - just have to take an angelic host to get her
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 18 2016 18:14
You know she isnt removed from the game right?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 18:15
True I guess you could still take her in a cad
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 18 2016 18:15
the AS codex is not replaced by IA
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 18:16
Well anyway, the revs are up - Break it for me lol
I'll rejigger cel when I get home
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Dec 18 2016 18:17
im out doing errands
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 18 2016 18:35
I think it is still up in the air whether the old SOB is obsolete. So we should keep it in until we here definitively it is Gone.
Same with inquisition.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 18:40
Inquisition I would argue is completely gone
Sisters though, that's probably only partly overwritten- hence why I kept the formations and cel in the formation
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2016 20:02
Now, here's a thing, sister and assassins aren't available on the GW website, and Black Library has a note on the sisters ebook that "all the rules are in codex imperial agents" (paraphrase)...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 20:03
Then ergo, via @efalsken's logic - IA is the replacement for SoB and Assassins
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 18 2016 20:15
Inquisition lost a lot more than sisters. I know there aren't many inquisition players out there, but it is hard to imagine many of them willingly using the new book.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2016 20:17
Uhuh, codex inquisition is off the GW site too...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 20:17
You only lost the free warp charges - armors on acolytes were cut in half
Are they off black library too?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2016 20:18
No, they're all available there, but normally they're linked through from the GW site...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2016 20:18
And with the formations you still can build mixed squads
It seems like GW is doing that less with the ebook only books - keeping them exclusively on bl
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2016 20:33
Yah, it does make it tricky to know which is still current... I mean it's not a problem for assassins I think it's the same rules in the codex as the dataslate, but that's not always the case...
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 18 2016 23:21
Inquisition lost a ton. None of the vehicles except for Chimeras have the inquisition faction any more. That means no vehicle upgrades. That isn't nearly as important as the nurf to psybolt ammo which only works on "bolter" now.
The henchmen squad went away replaced with a foration with lots fewer options. The inquisition detachment went away replaced with one with more requirements and fewer options.
Inquisitor karamazov lost his reason to exist now that his orbital bombardment is one use only.
The inquisition relics are now harder to take. Needle pistols lost ap2. Laser monkeys are now solo model units.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 18 2016 23:27
There are a couple bright points. Armor upgrades are way cheaper. Arco flaggellents are cheaper too, but got moved to the Sob faction. Acolytes now can take storm shields.
Overall it is a thorough reduction of options. SoB lost their best HQ, but otherwise gained a few options.