These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

9th
Jan 2017
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 00:00
Nope :-( #3177 the squad is not shown in a number of the KT's...
and it should be...
so I had to fight with the stupid vangaurd veterans, and then the dominatus kill team entry.. which has led to a bit of a re-work of a couple of options...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 00:03
I guess. I thought I had fixed it.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 00:04
Watch Sergeant Crull is a cheeky blighter... what with his 2 wounds and Hatred... naughty little monkey...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 00:32
right, OMG is that the time...
I'll finish this "later" I'm onto the Furor Kill Team.... there are many updates... Hopefully people will appreciate them...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 10:42
just FYI for everyone to be aware of, I found last night while working on the Deathwatch CAT that when you try to remove a Selection Entry Group that is nested inside another Selection Entry Group - the BS Data Editor WILL crash, every time... I'm not sure if this is a bug in the data editor, or simply a consequence of unintentional improper coding/design of the data in the first place, but we probably should try to avoid creating groups inside of groups in the future as much as possible...
if the editor crashes after trying to delete a group in this way, pretty much your only option (that I found anyway) is to find the entry in the Raw CAT and delete it there...
zopha
@zopha
Jan 09 2017 10:52
Thanks! That happened to me a few days ago and didn't have a clue what caused it or how to fix it. Thankfully I could just discard the current work and work from the last commit, only lost one unit entry.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 12:30
It did take me a while to figure out it wasn't something specific to the vanguard Veterans entry, much frustration was had...! But yes, just need to finish off what I was working on last night and then all will be well :smile:
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:15
@FarseerVeraenthis dat frag cannon/storm shield is OP
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:18
Hehehe! Ya think!! I couldn't believe it myself either, but a veteran has a boltgun and a chainsword standard, and he only has to give up his boltgun for a heavy weapon... So he can do what he likes with the chainsword... Imagine 4 of them with storm Shields camped with a sergeant... Hello, we're holding this objective, please piss off...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:19
Ive done this in a game once. aquila KT with 4 frag cannons/ss, sgt with shotgun/ss, and a libby for buffs. all in a drop pod
I wont play it ever again in a non comp setting
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:20
That's just vicious...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:21
It was brutal. Wall of death would kill most things chaging it since it is 5 template weapons
4 @ S6 Rending, and one S3
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:25
Did you model them, if so, how? And how did the 3++ saves work out...?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:29
I didnt realize you could before putting together the models. so none of them had SSs.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:29
(and I can't believe you actually played that build IRL...! Did you really hate the guy you were playing or just fancied a laugh...) I know people are saying GW are getting things right recently, but some of the details are going out the window - where are the bolt pistols? How can a guy have a two handed weapon and another weapon...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:29
the 3++ with the libby letting me reroll save was awesome
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:30
Hahaha! I can only imagine what your opponent thought... Although I played against a thousand sons army the other night, 5 guys with AP3 bolters are no joke..
One of my squads didn't make it into cover and simply died...
Then there is the psychic charge 1 power that wiped out a whole squad of 5 vanguard Veterans...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:32
what power?
and yeah, ap3 1KS is no joke
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 20:46
It is one of the primaris powers, I forget the name, small blast with wildfire, didn't scatter off my vets who had just landed from deep strike so it hit all of them and then the wildfire hit and things went downhill... Deep strike vanguard Veterans is not a good tactic - at least I've learned something!!
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 20:49
lol. yeah. deep striking DW isnt very good. Even their decurion isnt that great. there are ok and can handle themselves fine, but i feel like they are better as a ally for an army. especially with the KT formations
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 09 2017 21:36
Hmmmm, I will have about 3k points by the end of my tale of Gamers so I should be fairly well covered wrt options for play style... I'm thinking I can do a null deploy with a Dread pod or something, although there seems to be a complete lack of reserve manipulation in the DW list...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 09 2017 21:42
Yeah. Best I've found is alpha strike with drop pods, but buying empty ones to get everyone out first turn.