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13th
Jan 2017
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 05:13
i see i was summoned
@/all btw, was reading thought the Fall of Cadia today at GW. Manager opened one up early. Get ready for tough detachment entries. And also Cawl, Celestine, and Greyfax are going to have to go in the GST period. They can be taken in any Army of Imperium in a CAD or Allied Detachment.
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 07:32
There was talk of an Army List builder on WHC in the community last night. And a community interactive FAQ system (Sounds like the system Frontline Gaming have been using for their LVO.) Not much detail on either atm so probably quite awhile away if they get started. I found it here - http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329786-community-interactive-faq-coming-to-warhammer-community/ It has a link to the twitch stream but you need to be a subscriber to watch recored stuff.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 07:58
So we need to get this shit started and organised.
I'll put the AdMech stuff into the GST once I have a complete source.
Cawl as a HQ, the Relics as a SEG that are hidden by default for use in other files.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 10:17
I agree, it would be nice to have some kind of overview about who is responsible for doing what on which files...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 10:25
As far as I can see, the only new units are the Triumvirate - yes? and they're going into the GST, along with the new relics. Should we put the new formations in the GST as well, so the only updates to the CAT's are the specific formation "How To" entries that could then show/hide units available?? Do we have a complete list of "Armies of the Imperium" that are included in the Cadia formations??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 10:42

I don't think we need how to's... at least for the triumvirate. We put the entries in. We put the formation in and hide all that stuff. Then, if your army allows them, you unhide them when linking it to your cat.
That way all armies of the imperium can have the formation and noone fudges around in other files, so everyone is responsible for their cat.. basically just like we did for KT

I'll open an issue for dat.

Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 10:44
:+1: sounds good to me :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 10:47
BSData/wh40k#3229
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 11:25
Fabulous :+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 11:53
anyone accidentally have a fall of cadia epub or pdf that preleaked?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 11:54
I don't. Usually don't see an ePub til Wednesday
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 11:54
gotta make due with leaks for now then
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 12:06
I've seen a triumvirate PDF with assemble instructions and their profiles. Not much else yet.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 12:50
I'll have fall on ePub on the link in t-minus 12h
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 13 2017 12:51
wonderful
I've added most of the currently known stuff for now, save some typing which will be copy&paster later
works for the most part
grafik.png
now I need a way to modify some modifiers that crack my brain right now.. most of those relics seem not to replace a weapon, which fucks with my DA relics for which most do that..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:10
Yep :/
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 15:10
Do you have this detachment? http://is2.4chan.org/tg/1484314148417.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:10
cadia is a very bad thing for BS :/
what do you mean have?
like purchased?
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 15:11
A copy of it or know what's in it.
Hard to tell whats a new leak and what's old :)
I'd love that detachment for my IG tank army
Except you can't take cawl :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:17
Another option for cadia guys ... Doesn't really fix the relics :/ but we we could make it its own CAT file for those detachments and formations ... it'd be a lot of duplicate combining, but that may just be the easiest in the end.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:25
If we had custom "Tags" and cross cat linking, none of this would be an issue :p
@Thairne I think for the relics, honestly the best is put them in the GST, hide unless cawl, celestine, or those detachments and don't worry about replacing weapons. Just make them a selection - let the user note which weapon is replaced.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 15:27
Yeah. But that's the drawback of seperate XML file instead of using a database with all the info in it.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:29
Wish I was a dba
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 15:29
It has evolved to where the relational database is important now with cross codex detachments, relic, ECT...
*data, not database
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:30
Yea, one database pulling from 1 table per cat would be great
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 15:30
And supplements like casual that just give blanket units and items, with multi army detachments
*cadia
Yeah. A DB with a table per faction would solve all of our problems
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:32
Alright, you learn programming, I'll learn DBA
We can be done in a week
:smile:
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 15:34
Lol. I don't blame Jon for using XML files. 40k never use to have anything cross codex, or supplements that augmented many things. That is a recent development from GW.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 15:34
Yep
I love it as a player
Really fucks with BS though
or any army builder
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 15:35
Yeah. Exactly.
To be perfectly honest, I have thought of asking r/androiddev for help learning said skills
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 16:01
One upside of working in the shipping dept of a warehouse for a dept store- when it's slow I can just go home early and work on shit
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 18:11
But are you hourly? Because then I wouldn't want to go home early.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 18:13
I am - meh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 18:57
blob
is there an easier way to do the hide conditions? i can't get them to work right.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 20:22
Is the whole thing not working?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 20:38
it's either always hiding or always showing.
i cant get it to hide unless one of those 4 options is chosen.
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 20:52
What is it supposed to do? Be hidden if there's one selection of those four?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 20:52
hidden UNLESS one of those 4
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 20:55
Well you modifier is set hidden to true. Shouldnt you be defaulting hidden and use set hidden false?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 20:59
Hmmm... Have you tried unchecking hidden (so it is shown) and then using the same criteria but use "less than 1 selection of..." rather than equal to 0...?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 20:59
i'll try that.
right now working on importing GK
oh, flak/simon, why the hell does the HW DW vet have his own profile?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 21:02
Good question... It does make it easier to control how many of them you can have in a squad...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:10
because the HW vet just uses the standard profile.
but you have him having a dedicated profile.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 21:12
shrug that's how I found it...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 21:12
hold on, catching up
It shouldn’t. i beleive that was left over from the original creator
you can just link it to the regular vet profile
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:15
ah
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 21:15
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:15
well i'm already out of it.
it'll wait now.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 13 2017 21:15
lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:15
wait, is that it?
holy crap! i did it!
zopha
@zopha
Jan 13 2017 21:16
What happens if you used AND instead of OR? I thought OR meant that one of the restrictions had to be met for the modifier to run while AND needed all restrictions to be met for it to run.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:18
#3230 glory hallelujah!
@tag8833 it's up on the repo.
might want to do your magic before someone forces a release.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 13 2017 21:19
Well done!! Now to wait for the bugs...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 21:20
hence why i was telling tag to do his qa before a release lol
try to avoid bugreps
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 23:14
hide=false if... works on apple yey
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 13 2017 23:16
nice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 23:20
holy crap an inq warband formation can get huge pointswise
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 13 2017 23:42
just added text of greyfax's psy power to gst
question - why is she not showing up as a non-local selection in my shared selection entries for inq? i had to hand-copy her over.