These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

18th
Jan 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 00:23
2 bs bugs technically so 3 actual bugs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 01:05
That's #4
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 06:58
Goodness, those Space Wolf dudes are relentless!! I'll push a release when I get my computer going this morning...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 08:16
Right, that is Space Wolf file version 2023 released, which should stop the Wolves howling so much...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 18 2017 08:40
everyone has his fanclub. Mine is strangely silent for now.. I'm a bit scared!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 08:53
Wait until they start wanting to use the FoC characters and relics before they've been added to the CAT...
And then, once they have been added to the CAT, imagine the crying when the CAT falls over because it's too large...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 18 2017 10:35
It's all cool, @FarseerVeraenthis, I appreciate you're trying to help. And you're not exactly "poking in" since it's not my CAT, I'm just trying to keep it tidy.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 10:45
I'm kinda thankful the only fanclub bugrep as has had so far was that vague one I closed yesterday
And then there was 1 bug and a bunch of enhancements
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 10:51
I couldn't replicate the hangs as described so I just commented with the standard purge re download, and if you're still having problems it might be a local issue
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 18 2017 11:43
welllll 6 issues left. I wager I'll get so bored soon that I might rework the psykers in DA to use the new psyker profile..
and add the available disciplines
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 11:47
The GK overhaul is still on my list - I might also fix all my cat's psykers to use the new psyker stuff also
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 18 2017 11:53
Are we done with #2548? I think the only CAT that hasn't been updated is "Tyrant's Legion".
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 18 2017 11:53
what about nids? dark eldar? harlequins?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 18 2017 11:57
Harleys were in with the initial 2.0 move iirc, I think Kohato did the DE conversion and Tyranids look like they're up to date
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 18 2017 12:08
then check those boxes :P
and then we are pretty much done
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 13:52
@Kohato can you confirm?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 13:54
confirm what
Tyrant's legion?
I haven't touched that, and have no desire to :/ I really really hate the IA army lists.
I did the DE basic conversion
I haven't linked traits or anything into the GST
but it's 2.0 compatible
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 18 2017 15:20
it at least doesnt throw any errors
so........
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 15:23
closer 'er up I guess
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 20:19
@FarseerVeraenthis
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 20:42
Uhuh?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:04
I'm at least averagely certain that a Thunderwolf Cavalry dude cannot take a pair of lightning claws...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 21:17
Let me check.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 21:23
No you're right
Twolves can not replace both chainsword/bolt pistol, so no pair
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:24
thank you :smile:
I figured that since there is a list of things the bolt pistol can be replaced with they couldn't replace it willy-nilly
and quite aside from the fact that it is a bit silly to be riding a wolf with a pair of massive claws - how do you hold on!!??
Well canis has 2 claws lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:28
hmmm... yes, having said all that, who in the codex can take a pair of claws?? and since he can replace his bolt pistol with "something" and is allowed to take items from the melee list - surely that means he can replace both for a pair...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 21:35
Run that by me again?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:38
Mr TWolf has a bolt pistol and a chainsword (melee weapon). Per the Melee Weapons list, he can replace his bolt pistol and/or melee weapon for a selection from the list. in his entry he can replace his bolt pistol (although, only for a limited list in his profile) and take items from the Melee Weapons list...
now, if he cannot take two items, it is impossible to equip him with a thunder hammer and storm sield
or, importantly, an axe and a shield, per the guy on the left of the photo on the TWolf page...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 21:42
Technically no
Only the claws have the footnote about both
So they can still do SS/th
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:45
by replacing both weapons
because they can
so they can take a pair of wolf claws
:sad:
:-(
as an alternative approach, who in the codex CAN take a pair of wolf claws from the Melee weapons list?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:51
and like you say, Canis has a pair already... (I'd not seen that before...)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 18 2017 21:56
See, you might actually be right
Because they also pictured a WG term w/ HF, no longer an option
Hmm
@Kohato @GenWilhelm thoughts?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 21:59
So what model?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 21:59
Per the photos above - can the Thunderwolf Cavalry take a pair of Wolf Claws?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 22:00
si.
They have a chainsword, they have a bolt pistol. One option replaces just the bolt pistol. Another option replaces the bolt pistol and/or melee weapon (Chainsword)
Two wolf claws is perfectly legal
RAW ... and as intended really. I can't see why they wouldn't be doing that lorewise.
Claws riding claws ...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 22:02
:rage: I'll get to it then... Once I've finished breaking Deathwatch some more...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 22:04
I see where the confusion could be - but there's nothing preventing them from giving up their chainsword on their datasheet. I think the ^1 subnote would be to address a model like the Swiftclaw
whose leader, per rules, can take items from the melee weapons list
but does not have 2 weapons to substitute, only a bolt pistol.
That's how I see it anyway
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 22:06
that's actually where I eventually have ended up too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 18 2017 22:07
Also. Never use photos for proof.
Gw isn't exactly strict on the eavy metal team
They have a canoptek harvest photoed with 3 spiders on the formation page stating 1 per formation
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 22:13
smooth, and a valid point...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 18 2017 22:59
right, I've added the triumvirate to Deathwatch, patched Thunderwolf cavalry and fixed the Space Marines Typo... Yes if I had infinite time I could have added the triple threat to Space wolves and Space Marines too, as well as including the Ultima Strike Force, while I was in those CAT's but - I didn't. Bed Time is calling :-)
oh, and it's all released too, so hopefully there won't be too many howling wolves overnight...