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22nd
Feb 2017
cartag
@cartag
Feb 22 2017 00:25
In about 2.5 hours (3am GST) we'll be playing Jackbox games at twitch.tv/ncazrael
That's the stream locale, you can join in at jackbox.tv on your phone
Have fun with me on my birthday if you're awake for it :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 00:31
pre up while i play sigmar :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 03:16
@GenWilhelm if you want to QA it too, it's the Talons Cat over in Horus Heresy.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:30
And appspot is down
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:30
again?!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:30
500 error
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:32
looks ok to me...
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:32
It looks up to me but only if you like BFG
2017-02-22 11_31_57-.png
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:32
oh yeah, all the repos have multiple entries
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:33
I seen it do that the other day, then it died.
Like it gets a flood of duplicates and then exceeds the limits.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:35
I'm glad there's a sync with dropbox option
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:35
yeah, i started using that recently
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:36
Does it work again?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:36
yeah, it working for me on android
i just wish it didnt upload data files from my phone
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:37
Yeah I keep having to desync delete then re-sync
Yeah iOS too
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:38
Must give it a go when I clear out my dropbox.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:38
Ha that's weird those uncategorized you told me about @zopha don't show up on iOS
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:39
Yeah, they didn't show up on desktop either.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:39
is this the wolf scouts thing?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:39
No talons
If you want to do QA on it too links up above
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 11:40
I'll take a look if i get a chance
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 11:40
I trusted git to pull in the udpated files but it said v62 of Talons.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:40
I guess deleting the entry link would probably fix that for android – but I don't understand why it's not showing on apple or Windows
V62 is the nearest
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:46
Hey @Kohato there is one issue with the company cadre implementation you set out - it needs to validate for ANY three for one. so if I have one HQ, I can have a maximum of three of ANY non-HQ units, to H queues mean maximum of six non-Hqs, three equals nine non-
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 11:55
The rule said any hq worb that rule I thought
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:57
Yes - any hq increases the limit - but it's on any non-GW
Hq*
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 11:57
Ahh ok
I'll take another look when I get to work
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 11:58
Kk
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 12:04
Thanks babe
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 12:30
Oii
@GenWilhelm did you ask something?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 12:32
yeah, but i realised it was my misinterpretation
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 12:38
:+1:
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 12:39
Does that uncategorised stuff happen sometimes? We had a few entries it happened to recently but no obvious reason as to why it happened.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 12:40
I'm guessing it's not supposed to be able to be take independently?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 12:46
is the titan supposed to be in the cat?
I've commented on the QA issue. Only basic stuff since I don't know 30k.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 13:00
Thanks @GenWilhelm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 13:53
@zopha Uncategorized happens when selection entries have no category
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 13:56
We had stuff that was categorised but in one of the updates/merges it became uncategorised.
Could have been accidental during and edit but thought I'd ask Incase it could be a sign of file corruption.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 14:02
Another one for astra millitarum - I checked on iOS – nothing. I'm thinking its android
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:03
I got one for SW and checked on android, found nothing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 14:04
Weird
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:04
maybe theres an update i dont have?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 14:04
Think it's app spot fucking shit up?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:04
i was just about to say that
but i got the SW catz from appspot
and tried that, still nothing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:05
unlikely in the extreme
that appspot is changing xml
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 14:05
Because coincidence or not this is only started friends appspot's been fucking up this week
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:06
it could be a compression error?
there is a BS update i dont have
and now im seeing it
something in 2.00.25
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 14:12
2.00.12 is up for windows now.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:12
Break all the things! /s
  • Fixed crash creating rosters with multiple forces in some cases.
Yay, the "Uncategorised" bug is now on windows! Fun!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:16
for AM?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:16
for everyone! :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:17
Not in 2.00.11
i'll update to .12
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:18
uncat.png
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 14:18
Thats what I seen. Land speeders as well.
They're uncatergorised in the data file as well. WHich is strange.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:19
So it's not a bug in the roster editor
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 14:20
I just updated to .12 now so this was in .11
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:21
anything that is an entry directly in "Selection Entries" is appearing in Uncategorised
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:21
It's "Formation"
Or that
Well, time to convert everything to shared links
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:21
yep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:21
No, that's not it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:22
yeah, just realised it not happening on the titans
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:22
Wolf Scouts as well
isn't a direct entry
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:23
is it entries that arent in a category in your current force?
yeah the wolf scout link didnt have a category
its fixed now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:23
IT looks like it's only "Formations" that are directly entered
or something with no category
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:23
yeh, add an allied detachment
all the LoWs go in Uncat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:24
I'm so glad bugs were fixed.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:25
i think its only on things that are directly under selection entries
not stuff thats linked in
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:26
Yea, but why only certain ones
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 14:26
if their category isnt in the current force they go uncat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 14:26
Ahh good catch
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 15:04
I seen some of it yesterday. http://i.imgur.com/xyBB4fL.png was getting that on the legion heresy files.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:05
Given how long it takes for bug updates - it won't be fixed for a while :/
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:14
But, luckily we can fix by making things all links
instead of entries
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:14
currently having fun with that
only 59 of them in SW
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:15
Good thing I do that from the start with my files wink wink
:p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:15
THIS IS YOUR FILE
jk :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:15
Pish, I took my name off of it
My next project is cleaning up the Rules on the nids file.
They're messy and all over the place.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:16
yeah theres a few cats that arent linking rules from the GST
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 15:17
I don't know if it'll be limited just to entries. All those uncatorgrised entries I had where linked selection entries.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:17
The couple in SW that were linked (3 of them) actually had no category in the link
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:18
yeah, the shared entry had a category, but not the entry link
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:26
And Jon's gonna fix it in a bit
once he gets back to his laptop
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:32
nice
in other news, i fucking love regex
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:35
I could never get the hang of them
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:36
in two expressions i converted all of the selection entries into entry links
now i just need to give them unique ids
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:37
Umm ..
Really?
Like, you moved them into Shared
then linked to them?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:37
pretty much, yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:37
Badass
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:37
the entries still have the same ids, so it shouldnt break saved rosters
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:38
If the links do, it won't
if the entries do, it will
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:38
yeah, the entry ids are preserved
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:38
No, I mean if the ID from the Selection Entry is now the ID in the Shared entry - that will break rosters.
Rosters have a selection ID of X selected. If that ID is now a shared entry (something that can't be selected in a roster slot), it will freak out
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 15:39
but it can be selected, since it's linked?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:39
to not break rosters, the Selection Entry IDs should be migrated to the new selection links.
As part of an entry
The roster editor, at its root, selects things from the Selection Entry section
not the shared entry section
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 22 2017 15:40
BREAK ALL THE THINGS! the space Wolf players are a friendly tolerant bunch, I'm sure they'll patiently wait while you iron out the bugs... #Thunderwolfcavalry
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:40
Unless you left the category in the shared entry
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 22 2017 15:40
/Unhelpful posts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 15:40
in which case ... fuck if I know, it's not supposed to be able to do that.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 16:01
Page 72 – Succubus, Options
Change the first option to:
‘• May replace close combat weapon or
splinter pistol with an archite glaive .....................20 pts’
From the DE FAQ
This means a Succubus could take 2 glaives for 40 pts right?
@FarseerVeraenthis ... i'm blind as a god damned bat
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 16:02
wouldn't it be "and/or ... 20pts each"?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 22 2017 16:03
Hehehe 😊
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 16:03
I thought that, but the codex also has some units that says "Replace X and Y with Z"
meaning replace both with 1
So I wasn't sure if that' why they avoided "And" or if it's only 1 archite glaive allowed
Printed codex only replaces the CCW with it, FAQ adds the pistol in.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 16:04
I'll see if i can find an example
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 16:09
and or.png
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 16:10
Fair enough - 1 it is
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 16:26
56k changes. Oh my.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 16:27
Welcome to letting Regex loose in a 50k line file.
Things tend to change :p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:07
Hey @Thairne
What were you waiting on for cadia
Max in Force/Child Child Selections?
Cause .12 seems to have fixed that
Time to re-think relics again.
zopha
@zopha
Feb 22 2017 17:09
Yeah. Max selections in force wasn't working for me in .11 but it seems to be working in .12
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:09
Well no, just less validation needed.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:19
I'll tinker a bit
jon answered me, but I was/am a bit distracted. Cat thing, ya know.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:19
Aye
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:23
now if I only could remember what exactly I did... :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 17:24
How is your cat doing?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:25
? WIth all that uncategorized shiat?
ah
not the file, the CAT
well yeah, she's recovering from the surgery
really only thing to do now is see if the cancer comes back and kills her or if it doesn't... doc gave her a 50/50 prognosis
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 17:33
I hope the best for her - we had to put one of ours down last fall - swollen thyroid that wasn't responding to meds and she was obviously in a bad way
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:34
well it is a invasive tumor... the best "cure" is amputation. But you cant amputate the entire side of a cat, so she had a good chunk of tissue removed in the hopes of catching all the cancer. If the doc did it, she'll be fine. If he didn't.. Worst thing is.. it is vaccine induced.
So by wanting to protect her I maybe signed her death warrant
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 17:35
That sucks man
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:36
sure does
but RL is not 40k, there still is a good bit of hope
shes a young healthy cat, the tumor was at a very surger..able... position so she lost a lot of skin and tissue, but it is way better than having it between the shoulders as some do
on a more related note...
insert wat-lady
grafik.png
grafik.png
am I stupid? Cause I aint seein it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 17:38
Have you updated to the newest version?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:38
Nope
you're on .11 still
Updater might not work yet
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:38
nope I'm not, I did install .12
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:38
I just grabbed a fresh universal zip from the site
Huh, bottom data editor is still .11
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:39
grafik.png
roster is .12 tho
I'm not some stupid issue reporter guy :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:40
I'm assuming force (And Child Selections) is set
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:40
you cant set those if you check on force
I presume BS is smart enough, the checkboxes are disabled
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:41
Yes you can.
blob
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:41
...
cough
Look over there, NOTHING HAPPENED ON CALIBAN!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:41
lol
Oh you mean that perfectly intact planet?
With happy friendly people on t
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:42
Yeah, just at the exact coordinates of -REDACTED-
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:42
Attempted Heresy detected

Blam

In news related to the min/max in force working - I will be able to fully validate relics without a fuckton of if/or hoops :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:44
Time to make a pass at SM again
The Arbites looks awesome
It's fucking black Dredd.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:44
watch the vid, you'll cry tears
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:44
I want an entire army
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:45
I freakin love IFEHATTSD
*ITEHATTSD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:48
haha tht was great
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:48
I presume you do NOT now our glorious Lord Alfabusa?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 17:48
I've never watched those ,no
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 17:49
quality gets better as the videos progress
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:09
Gah, using this for relics won't work
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 18:10
whats up with relics?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:10
I was thinking of using a pseudo-custom tag
basically a blank entry with max in parent and child selections = 1
Slap a link to that on every relic, and in theory it would limit you to 1 relic on a particular unit
but because itself is an entry - it regards the relic entry as the parent, not the model entry.
Oh well
Waiting on real tags it is!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:15
nope, bug is not fixed it seems
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 18:16
what's the bug?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:16
these do not fire and cause no validation
grafik.png
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:16
O.o they definately do the way I used them in the talons cat
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:16
maybe I'm blind again?
but that's the way it was before
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:17
Worth noting my entry had the max in force (and child selections) on the entry itself
not the link
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:17
max in force works
but not max in roster
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:17
Ohhh
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:17
thats what caught me offguard too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:17
Gotcha - I was only using max in force :(
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:17
well I can provide Jon with a repro now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:17
yea, he fixed the selection entry bug and is pushing a build
so maybe he'll be able to tweak this real quick too
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 18:18
I'm literally sitting here giggling like a little kid listening to those videos while I'm loading trailers
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 18:18
tts is simply genius
wait till you get to... uh... spoilers! :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:19
I've summoned you to https://gitter.im/BattleScribe/BattleScribe @Thairne :)
Jon's talking, we must swarm him
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 18:29
has anyone asked him about the various issues of nested groups?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 22 2017 18:33
I just brought up the shared group not defaulting correctly
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 18:44
I meant things like crashing the data editor, or having incorrect controls
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 22 2017 18:44
No, not yet
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 22 2017 19:15
GLORY!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 19:15
glory?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 19:33
DIE INSECT! throws fireball
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 22 2017 19:33
LIVE INSECT! throws lightball
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 22 2017 19:34
That's HERESY

Blam