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9th
Mar 2017
@Kohato Victrix rules have been leaked!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 03:28 UTC
Sexy time :)
Interesting. No way to pair bobby with a unit like was hinted at
Oh nvm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 03:33 UTC
Victoria guard can look out sir for him
Nice
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 09 2017 08:21 UTC
but he can take LOS with that one formation
oops
didnt scroll far enough :P
I, Cato Sicarius, will throw the body of I, Cato Sicarius, in front of our glorious primarch so that I, Cato Sicarius, will take the wound! I, Cato Sicarius, am truly a hero of the chapter!
btw is that guy so egocentric or is it some kind of running joke?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 09:40 UTC
both
he also has the thickest plot armour known to mankind
btw, what are we doing about the triumvirate? as in which CAT(s) is it going in?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 09:52 UTC
and yeah, Cypher literally hasnt changed
vqvcRFK.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 11:45 UTC
Dunno yet. No leaks on if they can be in all cats
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 09 2017 11:55 UTC
half attacks are plasma. He has 3 attacks base with 2 CCW. What if he charges? 5 attacks... does he shoot plasma or bolt with the uneven one?
ah
reading comprehension 1.0
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Mar 09 2017 12:26 UTC
Cypher appears to have lost the whole "extra D3 victory points up for grabs" when fielded against Dark Angels.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 12:56 UTC
@amis92 Hey Amis - can we remove notifications from the Kill Team repo from gitter? I'm not sure why they're on the sidebar
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 14:17 UTC
please no
we're not doing #3516 again are we?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 14:19 UTC
hahah
I mean, he's right. The Formation one does say 3
So ... there's that bit of correctness lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 14:27 UTC
you know, untill @Kohato mentioned the sidebar, i didn't know it was anything other then a column of pictures lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 14:28 UTC
oh, you hid the repo activity? :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 14:28 UTC
it default hid i'm pretty sure
now i understand why @kohato has email notifications turned off lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 18:58 UTC
So ... interesting
Rise of the PRimarch fluff
has a Chaos Sorcerer using Geomancy.
Well, a Chaosy version of geomancy
I wonder if the full book will have chaos versions of those powers.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:00 UTC
Yeah chaos got chaosy versions of all the astartes powers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:00 UTC
Nice
*soon for full scans/leaks :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:01 UTC
But I think that was in traitor legions
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:02 UTC
ohh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:02 UTC
Or something- idk but chaos has had all the astartes powers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:02 UTC
I guess it could've been there
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:39 UTC
So ... @Thairne
Not much Dark Angel revelations in here, but there is one minor/major hint at the end if you'd like to know it
otherwise I'll let you read it this weekend :p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:41 UTC
have you seen the daemonic possession rules for the new gk?
Daemonic-Adversaries-Daemonic-Possession.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:42 UTC
Is that for one of the scenario missions?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:43 UTC
Oh that's straight up old school that's awesome
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:43 UTC
its optional rules for any mission that has gks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:43 UTC
That looks like that's lifted straight from the demon hunters book
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:43 UTC
that's cool
Detailed summary of Rise of the Primarch fluff btw
for anyone who wants spoilers
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:44 UTC
oh hey, its the same guy that did the FoC one last time
uh.. i mean FoBT
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:44 UTC
Best spoiler of all though. Celestine + Katarinya = love.
Totally some love connection there.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:45 UTC
Nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:45 UTC
Yea, he did a good summary of both cadia and biel tan
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:46 UTC
So grayfax comes around - that's awesome
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:46 UTC
Yea, at pretty much the exact moment you'd expect.
Predictable, but then they start fighting side by side in every fight. Totally fanfic material incoming.
Size comparison. I still say Magnus is stupidly big
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:50 UTC
Love can bloom ;)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:51 UTC
oooh, voldus confirmation
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:51 UTC
In german
but comments have the translation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:52 UTC
well yeah
but it confirms the rumours
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:52 UTC
about his points?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:52 UTC
his rules in general
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:52 UTC
ahh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:53 UTC
ML3 grand master, new SM powers, and a daemon hammer that isnt unwieldy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:53 UTC
Haha the pic was a bit blurry
I actually thought he was -1 Attack
instead of 4
I'm like damn he's old ... but not THAT old
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:54 UTC
oh you though his A was "-1"?
rofl
and the big papa
Full rules :)
Cypher does indeed grant 3 VP
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:54 UTC
new DA rules :D
@Thairne will be happy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:55 UTC
What's really interesting though
There's no mention of all 3 being usable in all imperium
Only in the formation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:56 UTC
so the formation is 3 separate units with 3 different factions
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:56 UTC
That's what it appears to be
Still dont' have the full scan, but it doesn't look like Bobby is a valid choice for any iperium army
or Voldus for any , etc
Cypher's an interesting one
It looks like they may have removed his ability to be taken globally
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:58 UTC
it was in the earlier leak of the fallen faction
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:58 UTC
Oh it was? Nice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:59 UTC
fallen-angels.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:00 UTC
Oh cool, thanks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:07 UTC
No mention of any mega formation
which is interesting
and awesome for implementers!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:09 UTC
yeah, i guess the victrix detachment fills that role
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:09 UTC
Which is fine by me
Sooooper simple
So, since we can take a formation detachment with all 3.
Do we put the 3 in GST?
There's no relics to mess with or super detachment, but a formation could be taken by any army conceivably
Yea, i'm making a call - it'll be easier to have them in the GST - i'm copying bobby over now and will put cypher and voldus in at the same time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:15 UTC
ehhh, fuck, maybe not.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:17 UTC
makes 100% sense for cypher to go in the GST
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:17 UTC
Yea, Cypher for sure
It may be better to just copy Bobby and Voldus into 2 catalogs
rather than have the load with every catalog when it loads the gst
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:18 UTC
yeah, that makes sense
ive got cypher typed up in the fallen cat if you want him
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:19 UTC
I have him in the SM cat already too from before
I don't think he's changed ... like at all
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:21 UTC
yeah, the rules are the same, just some semantics
fallen cant take transports. i guess thats fluffy...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:25 UTC
Haha
Don't they just kind of appear
like cypher
or is that his schtick
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:39 UTC
He's in GST now :)
Feel free to link
Source notes all changed from Dataslate to GS3 too.
Ugh, I can see it now
"Why can only Honor Guard take the bannar"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:05 UTC
oh hey, fallen champions can go plasma pistol + bolt pistol if they want. thats fun
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:06 UTC
hah nice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:14 UTC
huh, the Touched by Fate rule doesnt specify it has to be used by that formation, so anyone in your army can use the rerolls?
(triumvirate special rule)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:15 UTC
Huh, I read that entirely differently
I thought it meant each of those models could re-roll 1 failed saving throw
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:15 UTC
thats what i thought at first, but then it would read "each model may reroll one saving throw per turn"
@Kohato is RG finished in the SM CAT?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:20 UTC
yes
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:28 UTC
ok, so I looked at the Fallen unit again... they have Boltgun, Bolt Pistol, AND CCW. So when they give up the Boltgun for a heavy weapon, they can still get +1 A in close combat...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:28 UTC
:+1:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:29 UTC
yep, just like CSM chosen
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:29 UTC
ah, it's only one per unit though...
not 4, like Deathwatch...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:29 UTC
yeah, but they can go 4x plasma gun and other such nonsense
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:30 UTC
5x
if they're like chosen
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:30 UTC
yeah, it is 5
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:30 UTC
that is the only reason to run a unit of 6 chosen.
especially lead by draz
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:31 UTC
yeah, i did that all the time when i played csm
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:38 UTC
best hope you don't roll too much "Get's Hot" with that many plasma weapons in one squad...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 09 2017 21:40 UTC

@Kohato

@amis92 Hey Amis - can we remove notifications from the Kill Team repo from gitter? I'm not sure why they're on the sidebar

Done.

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:41 UTC
Thanks :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:48 UTC
@FarseerVeraenthis thats why you take draznicht
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:49 UTC
righto :-)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:51 UTC
alright, fallen are done. triumvirate is in there too anyone want to copy it
although its just going into SM and GK so not much to copy :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 22:05 UTC
aha, yes, preferred enemy confers to the unit :-) ace :-) that'll nip things in the bud then. Not for Fallen though mind you...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:06 UTC
well no - but the point was 5 plasma and a PP on chosen ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:07 UTC
I like my commit notes for SM ;p
Also - my cypher fix was just spelling, it won't fudge up your fallen cat @GenWilhelm
in the GST I mean
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:07 UTC
lol that's awesome.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:08 UTC
what was it doing to the fallen cat?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:08 UTC
Nothing now that I think on it
since you just linked to him
Carry on
I'll push a release tonight before I go to bed
Just in case anything more comes out today
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:10 UTC
other than the GKs, i think the only thing left is to link cypher in each AotI CAT?
but most of them have the old cypher, so no hurry there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:11 UTC
Indeed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:11 UTC
Yea, pretty much
just as we go - easy to delete and re-link from GST
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:14 UTC
does cypher have max 1 in roster?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:15 UTC
yes.
Fuck, not "Child Forces or slections"
fixing
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:16 UTC
those commit comments are cracking me up :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:18 UTC
Well, he is a sneaky bitch