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9th
Mar 2017
@Kohato Victrix rules have been leaked!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 03:28
Sexy time :)
Interesting. No way to pair bobby with a unit like was hinted at
Oh nvm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 03:33
Victoria guard can look out sir for him
Nice
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 09 2017 08:21
but he can take LOS with that one formation
oops
didnt scroll far enough :P
I, Cato Sicarius, will throw the body of I, Cato Sicarius, in front of our glorious primarch so that I, Cato Sicarius, will take the wound! I, Cato Sicarius, am truly a hero of the chapter!
btw is that guy so egocentric or is it some kind of running joke?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 09:40
both
he also has the thickest plot armour known to mankind
btw, what are we doing about the triumvirate? as in which CAT(s) is it going in?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 09:52
and yeah, Cypher literally hasnt changed
vqvcRFK.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 11:45
Dunno yet. No leaks on if they can be in all cats
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 09 2017 11:55
half attacks are plasma. He has 3 attacks base with 2 CCW. What if he charges? 5 attacks... does he shoot plasma or bolt with the uneven one?
ah
reading comprehension 1.0
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Mar 09 2017 12:26
Cypher appears to have lost the whole "extra D3 victory points up for grabs" when fielded against Dark Angels.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 12:56
@amis92 Hey Amis - can we remove notifications from the Kill Team repo from gitter? I'm not sure why they're on the sidebar
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 14:17
please no
we're not doing #3516 again are we?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 14:19
hahah
I mean, he's right. The Formation one does say 3
So ... there's that bit of correctness lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 14:27
you know, untill @Kohato mentioned the sidebar, i didn't know it was anything other then a column of pictures lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 14:28
oh, you hid the repo activity? :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 14:28
it default hid i'm pretty sure
now i understand why @kohato has email notifications turned off lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 18:58
So ... interesting
Rise of the PRimarch fluff
has a Chaos Sorcerer using Geomancy.
Well, a Chaosy version of geomancy
I wonder if the full book will have chaos versions of those powers.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:00
Yeah chaos got chaosy versions of all the astartes powers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:00
Nice
*soon for full scans/leaks :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:01
But I think that was in traitor legions
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:02
ohh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:02
Or something- idk but chaos has had all the astartes powers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:02
I guess it could've been there
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:39
So ... @Thairne
Not much Dark Angel revelations in here, but there is one minor/major hint at the end if you'd like to know it
otherwise I'll let you read it this weekend :p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:41
have you seen the daemonic possession rules for the new gk?
Daemonic-Adversaries-Daemonic-Possession.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:42
Is that for one of the scenario missions?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:43
Oh that's straight up old school that's awesome
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:43
its optional rules for any mission that has gks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:43
That looks like that's lifted straight from the demon hunters book
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:43
that's cool
Detailed summary of Rise of the Primarch fluff btw
for anyone who wants spoilers
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:44
oh hey, its the same guy that did the FoC one last time
uh.. i mean FoBT
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:44
Best spoiler of all though. Celestine + Katarinya = love.
Totally some love connection there.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:45
Nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:45
Yea, he did a good summary of both cadia and biel tan
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:46
So grayfax comes around - that's awesome
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:46
Yea, at pretty much the exact moment you'd expect.
Predictable, but then they start fighting side by side in every fight. Totally fanfic material incoming.
Size comparison. I still say Magnus is stupidly big
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 19:50
Love can bloom ;)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:51
oooh, voldus confirmation
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:51
In german
but comments have the translation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:52
well yeah
but it confirms the rumours
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:52
about his points?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:52
his rules in general
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:52
ahh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:53
ML3 grand master, new SM powers, and a daemon hammer that isnt unwieldy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:53
Haha the pic was a bit blurry
I actually thought he was -1 Attack
instead of 4
I'm like damn he's old ... but not THAT old
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:54
oh you though his A was "-1"?
rofl
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:54
and the big papa
Full rules :)
Cypher does indeed grant 3 VP
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:54
new DA rules :D
@Thairne will be happy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:55
What's really interesting though
There's no mention of all 3 being usable in all imperium
Only in the formation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:56
so the formation is 3 separate units with 3 different factions
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:56
That's what it appears to be
Still dont' have the full scan, but it doesn't look like Bobby is a valid choice for any iperium army
or Voldus for any , etc
Cypher's an interesting one
It looks like they may have removed his ability to be taken globally
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:58
it was in the earlier leak of the fallen faction
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 19:58
Oh it was? Nice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 19:59
fallen-angels.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:00
Oh cool, thanks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:07
No mention of any mega formation
which is interesting
and awesome for implementers!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:09
yeah, i guess the victrix detachment fills that role
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:09
Which is fine by me
Sooooper simple
So, since we can take a formation detachment with all 3.
Do we put the 3 in GST?
There's no relics to mess with or super detachment, but a formation could be taken by any army conceivably
Yea, i'm making a call - it'll be easier to have them in the GST - i'm copying bobby over now and will put cypher and voldus in at the same time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:15
ehhh, fuck, maybe not.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:17
makes 100% sense for cypher to go in the GST
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:17
Yea, Cypher for sure
It may be better to just copy Bobby and Voldus into 2 catalogs
rather than have the load with every catalog when it loads the gst
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:18
yeah, that makes sense
ive got cypher typed up in the fallen cat if you want him
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:19
I have him in the SM cat already too from before
I don't think he's changed ... like at all
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 20:21
yeah, the rules are the same, just some semantics
fallen cant take transports. i guess thats fluffy...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:25
Haha
Don't they just kind of appear
like cypher
or is that his schtick
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 20:39
He's in GST now :)
Feel free to link
Source notes all changed from Dataslate to GS3 too.
Ugh, I can see it now
"Why can only Honor Guard take the bannar"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:05
oh hey, fallen champions can go plasma pistol + bolt pistol if they want. thats fun
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:06
hah nice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:14
huh, the Touched by Fate rule doesnt specify it has to be used by that formation, so anyone in your army can use the rerolls?
(triumvirate special rule)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:15
Huh, I read that entirely differently
I thought it meant each of those models could re-roll 1 failed saving throw
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:15
thats what i thought at first, but then it would read "each model may reroll one saving throw per turn"
@Kohato is RG finished in the SM CAT?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:20
yes
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:28
ok, so I looked at the Fallen unit again... they have Boltgun, Bolt Pistol, AND CCW. So when they give up the Boltgun for a heavy weapon, they can still get +1 A in close combat...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:28
:+1:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:29
yep, just like CSM chosen
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:29
ah, it's only one per unit though...
not 4, like Deathwatch...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:29
yeah, but they can go 4x plasma gun and other such nonsense
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:30
5x
if they're like chosen
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:30
yeah, it is 5
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:30
that is the only reason to run a unit of 6 chosen.
especially lead by draz
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:31
yeah, i did that all the time when i played csm
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:38
best hope you don't roll too much "Get's Hot" with that many plasma weapons in one squad...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 09 2017 21:40

@Kohato

@amis92 Hey Amis - can we remove notifications from the Kill Team repo from gitter? I'm not sure why they're on the sidebar

Done.

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 21:41
Thanks :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 21:48
@FarseerVeraenthis thats why you take draznicht
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 21:49
righto :-)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 21:51
alright, fallen are done. triumvirate is in there too anyone want to copy it
although its just going into SM and GK so not much to copy :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 09 2017 22:05
aha, yes, preferred enemy confers to the unit :-) ace :-) that'll nip things in the bud then. Not for Fallen though mind you...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:06
well no - but the point was 5 plasma and a PP on chosen ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:07
I like my commit notes for SM ;p
Also - my cypher fix was just spelling, it won't fudge up your fallen cat @GenWilhelm
in the GST I mean
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:07
lol that's awesome.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:08
what was it doing to the fallen cat?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:08
Nothing now that I think on it
since you just linked to him
Carry on
I'll push a release tonight before I go to bed
Just in case anything more comes out today
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:10
other than the GKs, i think the only thing left is to link cypher in each AotI CAT?
but most of them have the old cypher, so no hurry there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 09 2017 22:11
Indeed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:11
Yea, pretty much
just as we go - easy to delete and re-link from GST
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:14
does cypher have max 1 in roster?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:15
yes.
Fuck, not "Child Forces or slections"
fixing
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 09 2017 22:16
those commit comments are cracking me up :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 09 2017 22:18
Well, he is a sneaky bitch