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10th
Mar 2017
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 03:07 UTC
And release is out.
Enjoy those bug reports Gen :p
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Mar 10 2017 05:40 UTC
@Kohato turns out Cypher doesn't lose "at any cost" after all: http://m.imgur.com/a/j4uay
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 08:18 UTC
New rules? Meh... I'm not sure if I'd call that "new rules"... its basically the old rules anyway. Also, anything that has Deathwing has Hatred CSM and fearless anyway, so zealot doesn't do that much..
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 11:15 UTC
Is that the prospero contemptor?
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 11:16 UTC
The Calth one.
Builds some credability for the rumoured box set - http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/talons-of-emperor-box-set-coming-soon.html
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 11:16 UTC
That's what I meant
That's cool - looks like SoS aren't in that book though
There one for them too?
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 11:18 UTC
No leaks yet if there is.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 11:18 UTC
Also I'm broke or I'd buy it - anyone else got $13 to buy that?
That collection book is pretty reasonably priced
Again, broke bastard
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 11:33 UTC
Someone squinted extra hard and can see Sisters in that boxset image, also a golden rhino.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 10 2017 11:43 UTC
Way too much gold... Are you sure they're not Stormcast Eternals...?
Speaking of combo books, have you seen the Gathering Storm epub collection, £53 is a decent saving over £22 per book...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 11:47 UTC
That's what I was saying about the collection
But they don't list sisters in the codex description, so they're probably getting something separate
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 12:38 UTC
hah, that codex is taken down jow
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 12:57 UTC
Heh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:26 UTC
@francoisbeaulieu - Yep :) I kept it in there when I moved cypher to GST.
Also - that box set is interesting.
Not so much that it's custodes and sisters, I figured those were getting boxes eventually with the calith rules out.
But it says "Gathering Storm" on the box.
I really thought Rise of the Primarch was the final of the 3.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:30 UTC
Unless the big surprise reveal is that custodes and sisters are in gathering storm?
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:30 UTC
The codex has "Background for the Adeptus Custodes' return to the galaxy"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:31 UTC
That.
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:31 UTC
so it could be a Gathering Storm support release.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:31 UTC
They ... are in the fluff. Not enough that I saw need for a box set of them
of gathering storm I mean
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:32 UTC
Eh, it's a tie in with the plastic Prospero releases then.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:32 UTC
They're in the story much like the Rohirim are at helms deep.
Jesus the more I think about it, the more connections to other movies I make with that damn story
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:34 UTC
"The hour of action is nigh. With the surge of Chaos activity across the galaxy and the threat of eternal damnation more real than ever, the Adeptus Custodes have taken their vow of protection to its logical extreme – they will see the destruction of those forces who pose a threat to the sanctity of Terra. "
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:35 UTC
Huh, Yea i'm guessing a 4th Gathering Storm then
Hey @GenWilhelm ... do the fallen have troops?
I'm wondering how you even take them outside of a formation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 13:36 UTC
unbound
and maybe kill team
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:36 UTC
Ahh gotcha
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:36 UTC
More here in the spoiler area http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331802-talons-of-the-emperor-40k/#entry4679422 Their formation is the Golden Legion Task Force.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:37 UTC
based on that summary it has to be a supplement
it's too small to be a codex release
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 13:38 UTC
the book from earlier said Codex
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:38 UTC
They'll have a sisters one as well
well shit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 13:39 UTC
yeah, that one
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:39 UTC
That'll tie Skit/Cult for tiniest codex out
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:39 UTC
The codex has a formation and warlord traits
That's supposed to be a preview epub
I can't get to it at work :(
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:39 UTC
I can host it somewhere else if you like.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
Sure :)
Dropbox would be golden
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
Ah, one of the few I don't have access to :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
Haha oh well
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
I guess Mega won't work?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
That's like the only share site I have permissions to
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
Nah, mega's blocked too
oh shit gitter uploads are working again
Thanks gen!
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:40 UTC
There you go, less talk more action :D
Glad I saved it, had a feeling they'd take it down.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:41 UTC
haha did they already?
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:41 UTC
Yeah, the page is gone or hidden.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 13:43 UTC
its a 404 now
literally expunged
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:43 UTC
god damn do custodes look pretty
I imagine someone's in trouble this time
This isn't a "Duncan" leak like primarch was.
It sounds like somebody fucked up. People on dakka were able to get orders in before they took it down
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:45 UTC
There's a Gathering storm photo with them in it.
Someone pointed it out but the Dread/Rhino and LR made it look like it was just someone being creative.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:46 UTC
Oh?
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:48 UTC
I can't find the link but it was like an aerial shot of Guilliman, Cypher and the Grey knight with their armies behinid them. Custodes on the edge along the top.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:49 UTC
That sounds like a scene in Rise of the Primarch
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:49 UTC
Yeah
Must have been from that book.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:50 UTC
I love how everyone just refers to Voldus as "the/that grey knight"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:50 UTC
Everyone's freaking out that the things cawl is building on mars is 40k stormcast eternals.
supermarines
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:51 UTC
Doubt it
My bet is on new ordinatus
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:51 UTC
Agreed. Yes that.
Fluff at the end really hints at war machines over new marines.
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:52 UTC
Necron Marines.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:52 UTC
Oh how I'd love a plastic ordinatus
I'd buy that in a hot fucking second
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:52 UTC
It just makes more sense especially with the way the game is going – give the imperium more big guns that aren't baneblades
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:52 UTC
I've wanted a Ulator for so so long
but do not want to drop 500$ on i
*it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:52 UTC
Heh - pm me
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 13:53 UTC
Eh, can't see them making that plastic.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:53 UTC
Oh no I wouldn't see them making a ulator plastic
But a new ordinatus in the 40k line? That'd be plastic I imagine
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:55 UTC
Was it ordinatus Armageddon that was the missile launcher?
No that was Golgotha
Armageddon was a plasma nova cannon
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:58 UTC
Yea, golgotha had missiles
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:58 UTC
Ordinatus mars was a bigger ulator
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 13:59 UTC
Those old epic models are so goofy lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 13:59 UTC
I know right
Imagining them in true scale is funny
those missiles are impossibly large
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:00 UTC
I know there was somebody was starting to build a scratch built ordinatus
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:00 UTC
Like to the point that you're simply launching a space ship
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:00 UTC
I think it took him like six baneblades just to make the carriage
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:01 UTC
Jesus
just for the treads?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:02 UTC
The 3 carriage bogies yes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:02 UTC
That's gigantic
I'd love to see it finished if he ever did
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:02 UTC
Indeed
OK I misremembered the consensus was two baneblades and a chimera for the bogies
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:07 UTC
BSData/wh40k@4c6345a I NOTICED! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! insert Dalek voice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:07 UTC
Lmao
Still a giant fucking tank
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:08 UTC
Oh, 2 baneblade and a chimera
Well that's fine then
as long as it's not 3 baneblades
/s
And Thairne, glad you didn't see my release ;)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:09 UTC
I did. I have a few black pearls, ya know :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:09 UTC
Yea since that front drive unit is smaller people were saying chimera
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:09 UTC
Yea, that makes sense
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:09 UTC
I actually say a sicaran might be better
Looks closer to the original profile
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:10 UTC
minus the gun, you're not wrong
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:10 UTC
if you.. say... use resin variants.. it might actually be worth it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:10 UTC
and shit, if you're stripping down 2 baneblades, you're already not caring about $$$
might as well do it right with a sicaran
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 14:10 UTC
Indeed
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:11 UTC
65$ for... a... sicaran.
Boom
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 14:14 UTC
Heh, leak control :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:22 UTC
lmao
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:22 UTC
srsly
now grav rhinos? lame. Go home GW!
zopha
@zopha
Mar 10 2017 14:23 UTC
Just don't attach the tracks and stick a skimmer base on it.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:24 UTC
Pending the price of that box set, that might not be a bad deal on a land raider
who'd need a land raider anyway?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:25 UTC
lmao
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:25 UTC
250pts of explodey bits..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:25 UTC
Grav Land Raider - Heavy Tank Fast Skimmer
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:28 UTC
that might actually be worth it
Grav Land Raider Redeemer with Armored Ceramite for 200pts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:28 UTC
I'd use that to ram all day
12" Skimmer that can ram?
done
done until it is wrecked.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Mar 10 2017 14:29 UTC
...
I don't envy your waifu right now.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 14:29 UTC
haha
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:29 UTC
Wat u smokin @GenWilhelm
Tacticals with chainswords
Who u think u is, some FW chapter
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:30 UTC
idk someone asked me about it i didnt do a thorough check
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:30 UTC
haha
Tell them to stop cheating
You want assault marines, you pay for assault marines
Which begs the question ... why doesn't Carchadon just make Assault marines troops instead ...
that'd be so much easier to implement
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:32 UTC
oh CSM can do it, i guess thats what i was thinking of
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:32 UTC
Ahh, no comment on that - I stay away from the warptouched.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:32 UTC
as far as i can see its all mon-keigh /shrug
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:34 UTC
Hey, i'm with you there. Meatbags. Not a one fit to be Necrontyr bodies.
speaking of which. I forgot how god damn good doom scythes are.
ran a 1650 game last night with a deathbringer flight. S10 AP1 blast at BS6 is deadly as fuck
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 10 2017 18:36 UTC
Yeah, sounds pretty deadly to me...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:37 UTC
Wiped out tigerius and a squad of 3 centurions in one turn of shooting.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 10 2017 18:37 UTC
Ouch...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:39 UTC
Reanimation protocols should totally go to vehicles btw
wouldn't be broken at all
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:40 UTC
why not just make them MCs?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:40 UTC
Ew no.
Then Bolters could hurt them
Same problem the Stormsurge has.
400pt LOW and a bolter can wound it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:41 UTC
its T7?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:41 UTC
T6
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:41 UTC
why bother?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:41 UTC
Taking a SS?
Because dakka
Lots of dakka
4 D missiles. Use 1 or 2 marklights and whatever you look at will die.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:42 UTC
how many points is it?
360pts
wow
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:43 UTC
350~ before upgrades I think? One of which is a nigh manditory 50pt upgrade for a 4++
So 360 + a mandetory 50+ invuln upgrade
It has a 3+ armor, so that invuln is needed in nearly every game.
It's a glass cannon, but boy is it a cannon
My preferred setup is at 440pts
Interceptor, Invuln Save, and Skyfire upgrades + a 5pt weapon upgrade.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:48 UTC
Stay back, drop anchors and destroy whatever you want to look at and hope you kill them before they shoot you with grav.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:49 UTC
who needs grav when apparently lasguns can hurt it?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:49 UTC
I have a very fun (for me ... usually not for what I choose to shoot) 1850 list. 2 Stormsurges, a Riptide Wing, Command and Control Commander leading a drone net of 16 marker drones, then 2 crisis suits as troops with fusion deep striking
It's my fuck all objectives and blast you into the next table list.
Cause you can get a shitload more grav shots than you can lascannon shots
Though yea, A blob of lasgun IG could technically kill it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:51 UTC
100 conscripts with 2 priests - 350 pts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:51 UTC
Yep, that'd do it
fuck, they don't even need lasguns to render the SS useless.
50 of them would keep it busy in melee the whole game.
might even kill it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:52 UTC
bite its kneecaps!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:52 UTC
I can stomp I guess, but odds are I wont eat through 50
even with stomps
My tau needs are 1 final model.
Ta'Unar - might be my xmas gift to myself this year.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:59 UTC
any of you guys watching the warhammer live stream?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:59 UTC
I'm not
anything interesting?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 18:59 UTC
3 way battle of the triumvirates
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 18:59 UTC
Hahah that's great
Unfortunately the first triumvirate is at a large disadvantage
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 19:00 UTC
celestine almost died to overwatch when she charged cypher
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 19:24 UTC
so RG seems pretty good at one-shotting greater daemons
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 19:34 UTC
Again?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 19:36 UTC
Probably wiped out Yncarne
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 19:38 UTC
yep. now cawl and RG are slogging it out, unable to hurt each other
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 19:38 UTC
That is ... surprising
How has RG not had a single D hit yet
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 19:38 UTC
he has, but cawl heals them back
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 19:39 UTC
That'll be interesting who wins it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 10 2017 19:54 UTC
well cawl fled off the table...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 20:05 UTC
that scared little bith
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 10 2017 21:30 UTC
Oh I love BSData's twitter.
It's fun to make it crack jokes.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 10 2017 21:41 UTC
Winning