These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

25th
Mar 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 01:14
Why is the hunter killer missile not in GST?
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 01:36
Is it in BRB?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 01:37
it should be because i don't think a single codex actually lists it's profile.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 01:38
99% sure its in the BRB
along with stuff like dozer blades and extra armour
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 01:40
checking
It is. Anybody editing now? I can give profile
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 01:43
i'm just in custodes/sisters - i can reload as soon as you're done.
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 01:43
Infinite Range, S8, AP3, Heavy 1, One Use Only
Oh, I meant it is in BRB
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 01:44
lol the custodes LR has the venerable rule.
also ignores effects of crew shaken/Stunned
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 01:45
thats cool, wont be made redundant by the first thing to shoot it like a regular LR does
and i'll drop the h-k in the brb if noone else is editting it
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 01:47
No editing here
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 02:01
and talons is up.
and i'm going to bed - 30k event in the morning.
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 02:02
Anybody already planning on doing a push?
release
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 02:02
:shipit:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:14
the TO just told me i cant use hornets in my ynnari CAD because he cant find them on the other list builder
give him a book reference and everything, he's like nah if they not on the builder its not legal. so tempted to point out that it doesnt have CAD listed under ynnari either
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 16:17
Do it
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:18
He is dumb if he isn't going to accept book references over a third party app builder
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:19
he just told me my list is over the points limit because he subbed in 2 vypers per hornet
i dont even know anymore
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:20
Wtf?! Is he head TO?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:21
yeah, he's the guy organising it, idk if anyone is helping him
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:22
Damn... I'm sorry bro. But you need to have a talk with him about legalities and his rules set forth if he is fucking you like that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:23
yeah, i asked if ynnari CADs are legal and he said yes because they are formations and ynnari can take formations
i'm just like sure, free soulburst for my whole army i guess
oh god i just realised this list builder has all detachments listed under formations
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:27
...There are only three models with ynnari faction tho
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:29
idk, i think he's confused between ynnari and aeldari
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:29
Sounds like your TO doesn't know the rules real well.
This is also why I hand make lists for tournaments
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:31
from what i can gather he just started playing 7th after a break. so maybe the whole battleforged thing isnt quite so clear to him
yeah, i made my list on BS, then typed it up using the books so it was clear what i had
idk if i managed to convince him or if he just gave up, but he accepted my list
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 16:38
Imo he shouldn't be a TO
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 25 2017 16:45
Hold. Full stop
He was a fucking moron when he said yes to ynnari car
Cad*
There is no hope for him after that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 16:47
Well I, for one, am going to be double checking all of my opponents lists. make sure nothing egregious slipped through
I just hope we dont have to ask him to resolve any rules disputes
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 17:09
Tell him you're a data author for BS and you know what is or is not legal
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:09
Yeah, but I get that stuff wrong sometimes.
on a side note @cartag, are you working on the CSM CAT right now, or can I go ahead and fix #3584?
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 17:11
I'm at my FLGS, was getting ready to check rules on all legions to double check
You can fix it if you're in front of an editor currently, just change the hide/show to proc on word bearers also
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:16
cool, thanks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 17:28
@GenWilhelm if you wanna take care of the custodes bug too go for it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:28
sure thing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 17:31
Danke
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:33
why can the land raider take extra armour?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 17:34
Because it can
SB, EA, and HK
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:35
yeah, but it i mean why is it an option? it literally does nothing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 17:36
shrugs
That is a good point
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 25 2017 17:40
Doesn't extra Armour stop 2D6 for melta as well...?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:40
that's armoured ceramite
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 25 2017 17:50
I see... Who knows then...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 17:53
its either for consistency, or it's changed in the next edition. or both
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 18:01
Probably consistency
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 25 2017 18:09
I'm going with consistency, but we are talking about a fairly inconsistent company, so perhaps it was just the copy and paste fairy and no-one thought to check it...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Mar 25 2017 21:55
hows the games going @GenWilhelm
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 25 2017 22:14
hasn't started yet, just getting lists in
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 22:20
AFAIK, Extra Armour is only Crew Stunned -> Crew Shaken
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 25 2017 22:21
Yes but the venerable land raider ignores crew shaken and stunned
cartag
@cartag
Mar 25 2017 22:22
The Defiler can buy it also, despite not having any crew inside it to be shaken or stunned