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5th
Apr 2017
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Apr 05 2017 09:17
Now I understand why you guys hate Siege Assault Vanguard.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 09:22
Lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 09:24
Hahaha!
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Apr 05 2017 09:25
Really, I can't even guess where to start for #3619... the other one was easy though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 09:27
We warned you lol
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Apr 05 2017 09:29
Yeah, that's why I was able to run away while I was still sane
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 11:50
Damn people are dumb
@cartag I really feel bad for you - it seems like you got the short end of the stick when it comes to belligerents
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:02
...wow, really?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:07
uhuh
"fine, I don't have a valid point so I'm just going to sulk"
Was my capitalisation correct?? I think between the three of us we must have literally buried his (pathetic) argument under several megatons of concrete
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:16
I agree completely - he's the kind of player my local group would try to correct twice, then push out.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:18
which is understandable, to a certain extent, but I always try to educate people using solid facts, and in this instance, there is exactly 0 grey area!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:21
Indeed
How does he not understand he just disproved his own argument with his second cited reference?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:30
well, I didn't realise it was stated in quite such a clear fashion in the DFTS book (because I've not read it thoroughly enough)
but the main point is, that it is one model, not a Wing, not a Unit, per the FAQ
and DFTS is still OPTIONAL!! /rage
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:31
oh boy
this is popcorn worthy
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:31
hehehehehehe!! @Kohato spoiled the fun by locking the thread...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:31
any bet that guy is German
or a guy that runs DA as CSM
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:32
oh, there you go again, always bringing the Dark Angels into it...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:32
Actually, DFTS does not have the old optional/ask permission blurb in it anymore
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:32
well considering yesterdays conversation about being stubborn and not admitting when wrong I felt the connection approriate :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:33
hehehehe!! and really?! so everyone HAS to use DFTS??
when did that change??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:33
just like everyone HAS to use FW
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:33
OMG... How will DFTS stand when they bring in 8th...?!?!?!?!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:33
it most likely will be integrated into the BRB with tweaked rules
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:34
Technically this version of DFtS does rewrite part of the BRB.
The only optional part of DFtS is the dogfight/supremacy section, but that does state you don't do it if both agree NOT to.
If one player wants it, iirc it either happens or you have to dice it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:35
like night fighting
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 05 2017 12:36
Yeah I think so
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 12:37
or in our special guests words
no.
Fine.
you won't listen.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:39
I'm at work, so I don't have a copy of the Chaos Codex to hand, but what it the title of the datasheet that contains Heldrake rules?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 12:45
Hmmm... everything I can find suggests it is also "Heldrakes" which continues to support my argument :smile: which we all knew is right in the first place...!
Or, should I buy 9 Crimson Hunters, to field in a Crimson Death (3 Crimson Hunters) containing 3 Crimson Hunter Flyer Wings...?!
I think I'll probably have to take a deep breath and move on :wink:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 13:01
now you know how I felt yesterday :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 13:11
before or after confession...?
cartag
@cartag
Apr 05 2017 13:20
Want to see that guy get really pissed off? The file is set up to allow Blood Slaughterers to be brought in groups in a Blood Oath formation, and that's being fixed now too :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 05 2017 13:36
Hahaha
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 13:39
hehehehehehe!! wicked :shipit:
cartag
@cartag
Apr 05 2017 14:03
I even made sure to give him credit :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 05 2017 15:05
I heard it! I heard his head explode!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 05 2017 15:55
sounds uncomfortable - some might say, a splitting headache...
(I'll see myself out...)
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 19:42
Dont know if this is the right place, but would anyone be able to help me with a bug in my data files I'm creating for Runewars?...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 19:44
this is probably the most concentrated place for battlescribe data authors :D whats the issue?
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 19:49

So there is a character that can be taken as a unit or an upgrade for another unit (not both). I am trying to add that constraint.

The unit and the upgrade both have a constraint, max 1 selection in roster.
I have added modifers so that "if at least 1 selections in roster of {other upgrade/unit} (shared)" then max 0 selections in roster

But this isnt working properly...

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 19:51
have you checked "and all child selections" in the condition?
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 19:52
Yes
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 19:54
which cat is it in?
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 19:54
Daqan lords, the chracter is kari wraithstalker
Does the constraint need to be shared? I am not sure what ticking "shared means"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 20:00
yes, shared means that all selections are counted towards the constraint regardless of where they are selected. it should nearly always be ticked
i think i found the issue
"max 1 in Parent" in the Champions shared group should not have "all child selections" and "all child forces" checked
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 20:12
After making that change i still get a max 0 allowed in a new roster when adding a unit of spearmen and giving them kari upgrade
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 20:15
yeah, it seems like battlescribe isnt updating the modifiers correctly. saving and reloading a valid list gives no errors
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 20:17
I have unticked "shared" for the 1 in roster constraint on kari. It seems to be playing a lot better so far...
But I dont understand why
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 20:20
i think having shared unchecked forces additional updates on the constraints
so its being parsed more frequently for changes
thats the only thing i can think of
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 20:21
That sounds right.
And the constraint still seems to be working. best solution might be to leave that off...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 05 2017 20:21
yeah, seems like it
Cultiststeve
@Cultiststeve
Apr 05 2017 20:28
Thanks for your help then. Ill do a bit more testing then release this