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3rd
May 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 11:22
So fun fact – I won a Feldherr case at a xwing/blood bowl tournament last sat - the maxi cases use the same size foam sheets as the old GW cases
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 11:30
old GW cases? did they change size at some point?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 11:31
Yeah they went to nested z-strip foam
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 11:35
those actually look much nicer than the old 1x2" slots that I remember
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 11:42
I haven't personally used them, but I hear they're pretty good
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 03 2017 13:38
well done for winning :smile: I prefer to magnetise my dudes and stand them up in a biscuit tin or similar...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 13:39
ive always preferred foam - got addicted with GW cases, then went to sabol, then just started making my own for storage
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 03 2017 13:46
I have an original GW foam case that I custom cut the foam to fit my Eldar army - it works pretty nicely - now that the models are a lot more dynamic they don't seem to fit as easily, and for a tech project at school (like a million years ago before those foam cases even came out...) I made a case for my models to stand up in, and it's still in service today!!
all predictions were right, AoS-Style morale.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:23
vehicles taking morale tests
RIP killa kans
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:27
vehicles don't.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:28
why not?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:28
Conversely, single-model units (like many vehicles) won’t have to test;
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:29
but vehicles can come in squadrons - not just single-model units
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:32
probably bave10
what was a dread's LD?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:33
8
one above a tactical marine
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:34
ok - so bave8, probably 4-6 wounds - meh they'll be fine.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:34
its number of models
so if 3 dreads are slain they would have to roll a 6 to lose another from morale
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 03 2017 14:35
and since 3 currently is the max squad size
they never can loose another since thats not there anyway
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:35
yeah - so kans should be fine
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 14:35
I haven't read it yet, but if it's straight AoS moral, then high-wound low-model count units will almost never take tests
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 14:36
but grots have very poor leadership
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:36
that's if kans keep grot LD
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 14:36
Board armies tend to have shitty LD
Hoard*
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:36
they might not keep kan LD
probably wont, imo
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 03 2017 14:37
hoard armies dont really care about 5 models per game turn anyway.. they're hordes for a reason
oh noes, I lost another 8 of my 80 boyz!
now I can (probably) assault you out of that trukk!
whatever am I going to do!!! rolls 160 attack dice
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 14:38
From AoS I've seen 20+ models taken out from combat+battleshock
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 03 2017 14:39
yeah you'd have to loose pretty badly there then.. and if you have to remove a dozen models per fight phase...
2 dozen per game turn..
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 14:39
in a list with 150 stormboyz? not a big deal really
and yes, i've seen 150 stormboy lists
they're fucking scarry
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 14:40
Well, if take 10 casualties, that (10+d6)-LD. Boys will be LD 5 or 6
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 03 2017 14:41
jup, but that's 10 casualties in the first place
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 14:42
Thanks ok, assuming LD 6, 6 casualties still negates your LD for moral.
...idky it added thanks
So then it is d6 more model lost
Now, 12 models should be shit for a greentide list.
But that will change depending on playstyle
Another way to look at it is 3 casualties gives you a 50/50 chance to loose more models at LD 6
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 03 2017 15:07
yet do armies that rely on LD 6 care about 3 models?
if you loose 3 termies? Hard blow.
if you loose 12 guardsmen? Pshaw.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 15:08
Right, but usually the trade off from hoard to elite arelmies I'd high LD, or wounds. I said a hoard army shouldnt really care.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 03 2017 16:09
war machines have 10 bravery in sigmar
Don't worry about taking ld on a squadron
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 03 2017 16:10
even kans who already take "morale tests" in 7th?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 03 2017 16:11
They may have their own rule or something
I don't think ld will be an issue for vehicles
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 03 2017 16:11
They also did say that everything will be viable
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 03 2017 16:11
And of course single models wouldn't worry because they'll be dead.
So no need to test
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 03 2017 16:11
i can see their LD being higher because they are in a vehicle, and tanks being ld10
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 03 2017 16:11
True but I think that was more towards marines and ignoring all ld shit