These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

11th
May 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 12:25
Is anybody else getting Java errors when you attempt to import a cat file into BattleScribe?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 12:30
what error is it?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 12:30
it was a java null error
it's not doing it now - weird
Rumored leak from today's article :p
Interesting there are no points on the datasheet
but, I really like the layout
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:08
i'm wondering it that's a narrative sheet
since there's the power icon in the corner
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:08
Yea, it seems to be with the Power Level, but I'd think it would save space by combining
Power LEvel at top, points in the options
Ignore 1 if you play the other.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:09
fair
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:09
Also holy hell warpflamer.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:09
who knows
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:09
Auto D6 -2 rend.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:09
yeah
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:11
So rhino full of rubrics with warpflamers anyone?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:11
yeah man.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:11
Age of Flamers.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:11
Pretty much
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:11
Also VERY interesting on the unit comp
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:12
looks like the force power is completely gone, replaced by D3 damage
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:12
Drive up, spray something, then punch it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:12
Seems they went sigmar with points.
You buy 1-5 extra marines for a flat 6 power points
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:12
That's for narritive play
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:12
so basically you pay 6 per extra 5 regardless of how many
Yea
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:12
Yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:12
I'm just curious if that will be the case for matched too
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:12
Most are thinking a second datasheet for matched
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:13
120pts for a squad, 80 per 5 extra
or something like that
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:13
I'd rather it be per model for matched
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:13
Both ways have their ups and downs.
Fixed cost is much easier to do list math in your head
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:14
Yeah. Just matched is supposed to have the nitty gritty granular points
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:14
yea, that's true
why skimp on complex points when you're adding individual upgrades anyway
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:14
Exactly
I'm in curious about nemisis force weapons after seeing these normal ones
Now I'm*
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:15
looks like force is just D3 damage now
perhaps daemonbane weapons do D6 against daemons?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:16
Right, but I'm wondering if they will so a little something extra to differentiate them
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:17
i'm currious about that too in regards to the nova cannon.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:17
Well deamonbane, prob X2 dmg vs deamonbane.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:17
we know what a battle cannon does, how are they differentiating a nova cannon?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:17
GK halberd prob +2 -2 then? Sharp and hits hard as a 2h weapon
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:18
i don't even care anymore
just give me 8th
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:18
Lol, yeah I'm in that boat too.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:18
I have one final 7th ed tourney in 2 weeks
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:18
Still like to speculate tho :P.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:18
then I'm probably done with 40k til then
It's a new shop's tournament, with a gaggle of somewhat new players. I'm using the opportunity to field Doom Scythes.
I haven't in so damned long since they are paper thin.
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 13:20
I've been done with 40k for a year now, amateur ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:20
Hah, last 6 months has been abotu the same
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:20
The gt in July I'm going to settle on 7th, but now are talking to GW and might get a rule set when the stores get their early copies. So it might be a 8th tourney now :/. I just want an answer. It's make my purchases hard.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:20
very very little 40k
mostly PAth to Glory in sigmar
My current Path to Glory is beastly. Rolled a Treelord, 6 hunters, and a branchwych to pair with my Durthu
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 13:21
I wish I were playing that even... our AoS community is bored 40k players
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:21
It's ... nasty
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:21
Also my painting focuses is shattered now. I'll play 1k Sons if it's 8th and not UM. Sigh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:22
oh btw, sell dem codexes. Just finished unloading mine for 30$ each on ebay. People either really want the art, or have no idea 8th is coming.
Also
I can't fucking wait for this.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:30
ingame, eh?
I need a new PC.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:30
That'll likely be an in-game cinematic
from the campaign
But god damn the oldblood on a carnesaur
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:30
they say its the ingame engine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:31
Jurassic Park feeling there.
Aye. Total War cutscenes tend to be in-engine
rather than pre-rendered footage
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:31
but I seriously hope they fix the balancing and campaign. Everything felt SO starved... I finished the campaign everytime before I could climb the tech tree.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:31
Using the in game engine. It could be a cut scene focusing on graphic. Game play won't look that good.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:32
Don't care. Want my aztec imaginary star lizards riding dinosaurs.
lead by a toad on a chair.
Seriously, how is that not the coolest faction in Sigmar/Fantasy
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:33
IKR?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:33
sure thing
but if the game aint fun graphics wont help it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:33
Total Warhammer 1 is plenty fun for me :)
My most recent failed campaign is dwarven artillary. 8 Grudge Throwers, a bunch of thunderers, and some elf screen miners.
It fails most of the time, but holy crap does it do damage at the start of the fight
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:35
now imagine if you actually COULD get to organ guns before the game ends...
thats my biggest beef.
that and Ironhide showing up on T5 with a full stack of elite units. WHAT?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:35
don't play on easy
you could progress further :p
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:35
nope
I'd get REKT
^^
(also I use normal)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:35
Know that. Chaos is a right bitch on harder difficulties.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:36
Git gud then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:36
Nah, I just play chaos.
I'll be the encroachers :p
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:36
Lol :p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:36
Or beastmen. They're pretty fun in TW:W
Cygors are scary
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:36
This reminds me I need a gaming PC again :/
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:36
Oh, my artillary unit is also a giant who can wreck your shit in melee.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:36
Dorfes. Only Dorfes.
I want my elite Ironbreaker organ Gun Flamer Gyorcopter army GODDAMNIT
but noooooooooo everything dies!
seriously, some less starving out would help the game. Thos Radish mods are rubbish tho.
either that or I need to git gut.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:40
no, just git gud, lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:41
I already started playing Dark Souls young man!
(and am now scared to go on with that CURSED Basilisk bullshit)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:41
1?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:41
yeh
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 11 2017 13:41
someone called me young :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:41
<3
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:41
starting from the front
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:41
Dark Souls is one of my favorite series.
i'm painting my knights as Lords of Cinder from DS3
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:42
I need to get through DS1^, then DS2 and THEN I might know what you're talking about :P
BUT I can beat the tutorial boss on first try!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:42
Hah, did you cut his tail off?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:42
...
I shot like 80 arrows at it.
then tried to kill the wyvern
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:42
Ahhh, dragon strat.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:43
I quickly learned that I suck.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:43
let me know when you recognise the character in my profile pic :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:43
There's a dragon guarding a bridge that you can kill that way too
totally not intended
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:43
nope, thats fixed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:43
orly?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:43
I wll Gen ^^
yup
tailoring works
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:43
Haha
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:43
killing doesnt
OHK by fire made that fight rather.. hm... difficult for a newb
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:44
Come back to me when you finish 2.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:44
so I opted out :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:44
I have a video to show you
it's hillarious
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:44
is it happy souls?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:44
:D
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:44
first I've got to gather my balls
Boom
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:44
Hey this guy looks like Frampt. It IS frampt!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:44
old news fam! :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 13:45
Fuck off old man ;)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:45
you can turn into a BAWKS?!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:45
seriously. I can deal with dieing. But dieing, having to cough up 3k souls somehow AND being cursed?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:45
idk why, but the guy who did the voices sounds like Warburton to me
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:45
that shit fucks my pain receptors.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:45
First time playthrough, don't worry about being undead or human.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:45
oh yeah, curse is by far the worst thing in dark souls 1
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:45
nono
its not husk
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:46
I actually used humanities as potions rather than staying human.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:46
it halves your JP
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:46
Ohhh curse
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:46
*hp
permanently
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:46
yea fuck that
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:46
unless you get that thingy from across the map
I feel down a hole, saw a few big eyes and that is where my motivation ended :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:46
You could always to a SL1 naked run to the swamp to grab items.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:46
yeah, the tablets are like 3k a pop from oswald
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:46
I did that once. was rather exhilarating
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:46
*fell
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:47
Also, PS3 or PC?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:47
tbf, I had one
now I'm scared.
PC with controller
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:47
a GOOD pc?
or a good pc
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:47
a bit aged
but everything runs fine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:47
When you get to an area that looks like a swamp town kinda underground
turn down graphics
just fair warning. It's horribly optimised
Like, bad.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:48
I THINK they fixed that too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:48
oh that would be amazing
That was my 1 huge gripe about 1.
That place killed framerate and made it REALLY hard.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:48
I went into some watery stuff where I got chased by ghosts to grab a flame soul thing
went fine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:48
oh, not that place.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:48
I also killed some ent thingies
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:49
It's called "Blighttown"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:49
nope, not been there yet.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:49
it's more ... brown
rather than dark
you'll know it by the framerate drop when you look at the water below.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:49
heh yes :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:49
but yea, once you beat 2 - go look up happy souls.
I sincerely hope he does one for 3 at some point.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:50
I'm not sure if I'm CAPABLE of that
although, come to think of it, I've beat the gargoyle boss on the first bell at first try
so I've that going for me, which is nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:50
you could watch it now, there's really no spoilers to 1. And the spoilers to 2 are ... not really? More like peaks at boss fights rather than spoilers.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:50
but would I get it?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:50
in fact it doesn't talk about 1 at all really
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:51
did you guys look at the second half of the rubrics datasheet?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:51
jup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:51
Possibly. Finishing 1 would help. It's a video about 2 friends playing through DS2.
Belltower was a bitch my first try
If you haven't figured it out by now, try to aim for the demons' tails.
the boss ones at least. The ones that have tails.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:52
I did that.. somehow :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:52
Oh you got the axe then?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:52
jup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:52
Nice. Every boss that has a tail has one of those I think
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:52
since learning that blocking is better than rolling in full plate armor..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:52
Haha. Yes.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:52
things went up
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:52
Fatman roll is bad.
Oh god, Gen
I can't wait until Thairne gets to sens.
It's so fun watching a fresh soul.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:53
you guys are really somewhat scaring me
like that fight or flight feeling setting in :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:54
That sums up DS pretty well.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:54
you know what I did bub?
I had no idea I wasa not supposed to enter the graveyard at that fireplume shrine thingy
I thought that was the normal difficulty and got rekt by skelletons
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:54
I mean, ... you CAN
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:55
so I went... and killed 2 or 3 packs because I thought I NEEDED to
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:55
Unless you mean you went down into the Depths (tunnle in that graveyard)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:55
took me ages.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:55
Then yes, that was a bad idea.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:55
oh god, i hear of so many people doing that
going to the crypt first
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:55
Hey
makes nito happy
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:56
tbf, the game really does not give you hints that the skellies are way out of your league
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:56
Oh there's no hints.
in any of the 3.
Ever.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:56
I mean they literally are the first thing you find right after the tutorial
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:56
Btw, the intended way to pass the tutorial?
is to run past the boss the first time
not fight him
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:57
wwhat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:57
;)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:57
are you fucking kidding me
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:57
There's a gate behind and to his right (your left)
that you dash through before he drops down
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:57
ah
yes the FIRST time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:57
Ohhhh I thought you meant you killed him that time
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:57
yeah I got THAT, the game tells you to leg it actially
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:57
isnt that before you get a real weapon?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:57
yes.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:57
I think so :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:58
I've done it once. It's not easy
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:58
now that would be.. interesting. No shield either.-
and no flask I think
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:58
you get his weapon if you kill him on that first time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:58
Yup. It's a very long fight
with lots of dodge roll
and naked punches.
but it can be done
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:58
you have a broken sword dont you?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:58
Depends on the class I think
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:59
thats like twice as good as fists
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:59
It's been a while.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:59
So.
Anything else you want to tell me before I descent into the realm of madness again?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:59
Where are you?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:59
like dont ever increase magic as fatman?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:59
if anyone asks, you are a cleric
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:59
I should say, what did you do last?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:59
die to basilisks :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:59
Basilisks ...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 13:59
curse frogs
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 13:59
on the way to the 2nd bell in the basement
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 13:59
oh right, fucking frogs
how those are called basilisks
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:00
curse frogs... jesus xD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:00
Umm, tips? Stay away from fatman roll.
If you can
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:00
I learned that the hard way with the minotaur demon.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:01
Blocking is good, but having at the very least, mid-roll is best.
max-roll is of course better, but you may want more armor than you can have to get that :p
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:01
ok bear with me
what are you talking about?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:01
there's 3 weight levels
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:01
isnt roll static based on class?
oh
I see
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:01
I forget the %s offhand
70%+ is fatman roll I think
you basically fall forward
I think 40-70 is mid roll. Better than fat roll but not the fastest
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:02
now I undestand. I thought fatman was the meme name for the knight class
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:02
below that is the furthest/fastest roll
Oh lol
no
Class?
Is meaningless.
just fyi.
Like not metaphorically
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:02
starting gear/starting stats
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:03
yep, you got it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:03
Yea, that's all it is. Starting gear that you replace. and it's your starting stats pretty much
I usually go cleric every time regardless of my build
so I can get the quick heal.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:03
I got that actually
that small wonder thing
I figured that healing off the flask would be nice
I figured that HEALING ALWAYS is nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:04
It is.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:04
but not against curse frogs. Gods.
Seen them once and already nightmares.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:05
If you're ever confused about story, ask Gen or I. It's not very straightforward. All 3 connect to each other in a way. 2 is set an unknown time away from 1, 3 set an equally unkown time away from 2.
most of the story is told in the item descriptions
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:05
those are confusing as fuck
all those items in the loading screen...
what the heck
Im just trying to ring a fucking bell, that's all.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:07
Oh, also
don't kill NPCs
I mean ... you can
but it's generally a bad idea
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:07
well there is that one...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:07
They can also usually fuck your shit up
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:07
things sell things
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:07
The gold knight gen?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:07
why would I want to...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:08
yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:08
Not that you would want to ...
but wild swings will hit them
and they don't like that.
that gold knight WILL fuck your shit up if you're not ready
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:08
kinda understandable
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:08
He's ok to kill though, he drops things.
And if I remember right, he is a dick.
Oh, last piece to not spoil things - don't consume boss souls.
Not without seeing what you can convert them to
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:09
afaik I only had souls of undead and soldiers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:09
Basically save them - at a mid/later point in the game you find a smith who can convert them to gear/weapons
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:09
@GenWilhelm is that new a.m. bug report what I think it is?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:10
Ah ok. Some bosses will drop a soul
like a specific "Soul of the <Demon name"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:10
dont remember those yet
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:10
you can consume them like normal souls, and the game doesn't tell you not to
but later in the game you can use them to make gear. Some gear is useless, som isn't. Best to save them until you get to that point.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:11
@alphalas i was about to go check the IA to see if theyre actually any different
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:11
then you can consume them if you'r enot using them. but you can't get them again, so best not to use them right away
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:11
really not a newb friendly game
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:11
Nope. It's not friendly at all
it's dark.
Souls.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:11
dank souls.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:11
\o/ praise.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:12
also not there yet :P
Cant praise.
I can shrug tho!
and I think I can point
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:12
Oh, final final one - if an npc offers you to join a covenant, don't worry about which one other than Way of the White or Warriors of Sunlight
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:12
fucking game even makes you earn the motes!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:12
Those two are Co-Op ones (Warriors of Sunlight is the meme one)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:12
"Well, what is it?" is the best emote :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:13
the rest are all PVP based
I always preferred the stones to the emotes.
"HELLO!"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:13
the last thing I want is to get stabbed in the back
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:13
@GenWilhelm oh i didn't even look at it yet.
i was assuming it was bitching about no marbo
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:13
Way of the White is a basic one that just increases co-op chance (You see more white signs to summon)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:13
oh no its "chimeras are missing forge world runes from IA 1"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:14
Warriors of Sunlight does the same, but has some rewards for doing co-op. And you are golden instead of white if you get summoned.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:14
I summoned an NPC once..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:14
The rest are all straight up pvp
It's helpful to do so
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:14
I did
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:14
most bosses have an npc summon by their fog gate
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:14
guy tanked while I tailored the thing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:15
god damn, I think i'm gonna start a fresh 3 game run now
I haven't played 3s dlc yet.
so might as well start from 1
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:15
I gotta some planting work to do this evening
and I gotta sink the HMS Hood in my bismark sometime
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:15
but aftertthat I might scramble after my bawls..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:15
If you care to use maps your first time through
those can help
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:15
Im fucking using a walkthrough :D
I want to get shit done, aint nobody got time for that (and I learn the ropes better that way)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:16
Haha
Fair. The maps will help with that too probably
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:16
I intend to not do that with DS2
but 1 I want to get done and over with, get a feel, not miss TOO much
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:17
My order of preference - DS3 > DS1 > DS2
Not that 2 is bad, just loved the others over it.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:17
(besides getting a BIT better graphics would tickle my fancy)
any particular reason?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:17
Story mostly.
bit of mechanics. 2 always felt a bit wonky and off compared to 1 and 3.
3's my favorite story wise and it is very well polished.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:19
my biggest gripe with DS2 is all the bosses felt the same - just "big dude with X"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:20
i think he means the autocannon and twinlinked heavy bolter turret?
otherwise only difference is new chimera has lasgun array and only 2 can shoot out the top
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:20
tbf, didnt meet another boss yet
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:20
Also, 3's opening cinematic STILL gives me chills.
so fucking good.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:21
I'll get there.. in time. I hope.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:22
I hope you enjoy all 3. I love that series to death and am always thrilled when someone takes it up the first time :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:23
@alphalas yeah thats the only differences i can see. no extra rules
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:23
you just enjoy human suffering, dont you? :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:24
That may be part of it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:24
now
just for a second
imagine a 40k dark souls
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:24
Yup.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:24
where you play some officio assasinorum dude
ever stabbed a carnifex? Defeated a CSM?
dueled some demon?
why is that NOT A THING?!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:25
i'm not adding another godamn chimera to that cat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:27
"We’ll be back tomorrow to look at points and power levels."
Yus
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:27
if there's the options to take the other turret weapons on the basic one then there's no point
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:27
Exactly
The twin-hbolter and autocannons are options on the chimera currently
flips off anon
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:28
you need to work on your flipping
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:29
And I swear to God, if somebody brings up the fucking wolf priest as example of president I'm going to fucking punch them in the fucking face
Worst godamn decision GW ever made - fucking IA
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:29
what about BA assault marines?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:30
Oh god, don't get me started
I nearly did punch someone in the face for being an ass about the ASM
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:31
pff nearly.
not very blood angely.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:32
i also nearly broke a dude's back once - that was pretty fucking intense lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:32
NEARLY
bane broke batman
do you think he went "Oh no, I cant do that" and NEARLY broke Batman?!
be like Bane dude, be like Bane!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:32
fuck off old man lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:32
haha
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 14:33
is that the only retort you have? it gets... old... rather quick :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 14:33
I'm working on my event chronology now actually :p
for marvel/dc
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:33
hey @GenWilhelm there's SW:A FAQ out
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:33
the errata?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:34
i guess? i just saw it pop up on my timeline
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:36
oh, they updated it to v2 today
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 14:37
hey @Kohato you gunna fix your bug?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 14:43
well v2 ruined all the fun. you can no longer take telescopic sights on shotguns
This morning's work
The captain is just a test paint
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 16:10
what were you guys talking about in AoS where you save against mortal wounds?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 16:10
avatar has it obviously
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 16:11
there are units in AoS that can save against mortals, usually only on a 5 or 6
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 16:13
is it a universal thing like an invulnerable or FNP, or is it granted by unique rules/wargear?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 16:13
rules usually
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 16:13
okay cool, so it's quite rare then
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 11 2017 16:13
like savage orks can have war paint that negates mortal on 6s
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:00
starting dark souls. My balls are shrinking.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 17:01
Haha
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:05
aaaaaaaaand I'm dead
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 17:07
Yea that makes sense. I'ts been 4 min lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:08
aaaaand dead again
I really need to get back into things...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 17:09
Dodge roll. Always
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:15
with fatman?
nah
damn sneaky stabby rogue guys.
dead.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:27
made it to the next camp fire! Had the key for that from my last session it seems. Tension leaving...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 17:29
where you at? :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:36
some sewers
with a giant rat
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 17:39
I haven't played that, but I'm guessing it's a more extreme version of Super Meat Boy in terms of difficulty
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:44
nah not yet
not easy thats for sure, but it's always fair
if you fuck up you die
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 17:47
I kinda want to play meat boy now...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 17:49
I gotta fight that giant rat now it seems...
that gut wrenching feeling of imminent failure..
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 18:00
exploitet the fuck outta that thing, heh.
Do I need to go down to the curse frogs now? I dont wanna... ./
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 18:15
WHAT THE HELL
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 18:17
RIP thairne
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 18:45
Somebody COULD have told me about that... dragon... thing... maw...!
at least I got his tail chopped off. And then got myself cursed. Le sigh. How the heck to I get rid of that now... thats quite the amount of backtracking..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 19:26
dark souls: prepare to backtrack
and dont worry about that dragon, stuff gets weirder ^^
it is a japanese game after all
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 19:36
spent 20 minutes farming souls to get that stone. Done for today. But I got that thing down to 30ish percent and got his tail before it got me...
Now I only need like 30 more strength to use that thing. Why the heck does one do that anyway?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 19:37
what, get the boss tail weapons?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 19:38
yes, these things have so high stats requirements...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 11 2017 19:38
because they do wacky stuff
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 19:39
well would be nice if one could use them.
anyway. gonna bash that things head in tomorrow.
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:17
I think I just had a eureka moment for validation for AoS with current implementation
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 20:17
oh? Do tell.. we might need that soon
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:18
okay, so for Cost Types, we have pts only right now. What if, we set another few cost types, but they're not really costs. Let's say, Leader, Behemoth, and Battleline.
for a Herald of Khorne, he has a "cost" of 1 Leader
when you set the detachment types, you set "min 1 leader" like "min 1 points"
So say if the Herald is in a Battalion, he will still count as that 1 Leader cost, thus validating the entire roster. BOOM.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 11 2017 20:21
might work in theory
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:21
I'm testing right now
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cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:26
It works, it's sloppy, but it works
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 20:27
We tried d that with cadia
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:27
Oh?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 20:27
It's ugly as fuck when making a new list with more than 1 or 2 currencies
It works but it's pretty bad user wise
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:28
fuck, good point
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 20:28
Sorry to ruin the eureka :(
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:28
So we need an option to hide currency from the force creation screen then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 11 2017 20:29
Yep that'd be really nice
Preset currencies would be neat too but that's a qol kinda thing
To auto set bahemoth leader etc
cartag
@cartag
May 11 2017 20:31
well, for the different Pitched Battle sizes in AoS, you could set a constraint of Max 1000 Pts in Roster at the base level in the Pitched Battles to do the same thing
work around, but it still sets the point limit
shows like this:
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Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 11 2017 22:54
@Thairne I'm thinking Khaine will ignore mortal wounds caused by Melta, Flamer, stuff like that. So not a save really, but an immunity.