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18th
May 2017
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 18 2017 07:26
Don't get your hopes up that every unit with the ability to come on from reserves can do that from turn 1 onwards. On fb the pr-rep has commented multiple times that there is no such thing as 'deepstrike' anymore, every unit will have its own rule regarding arriving from reserves printed on the datasheet. So don't get hung up on what the Trygon rule says, it could be wildly different for your own units/factions.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 07:46
that however would make DS vary WILDLY in power. I don't see them doing that. Going in on T2 is already a significant disadvantage, especially considering the rate things seem to die in 8th already.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 18 2017 08:24
Doesn't have to be a disadvantage. If it's something like the rumoured 'half of the reserves guaranteed in second round, then the rest in third' it'll be a proper tactical tool instead of the random hail Mary it has been for most factions in 7th. Also, it was the GW pr-rep him/herself that kept telling people 'these are the rules for the Trygon, other units will have their own rules, don't assume there won't be any mishaps or everyone will be arriving at a distance of 9"+' (paraphrasing, obviously).
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 08:27
yes, less random.
Still worse than choosing when to come in from turn 1 onwards.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 18 2017 08:46
It is the norm in 7th to only be able to bring in reserves from turn 2 onwards. Being able to do that from turn 1 instead is only given to a select few factions and I would categorize that as an advantage. Not being able to do that would not turn it into a disadvantage, you just lose an advantage. Apart from that, who knows how they'll implement special cases like that? Might have to wait for a proper 8th edition for your particular codex to find out.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 18 2017 09:11
Stop teasing and give me the rules!!!!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 09:15
dont worry simon, two more weeks
then we will know for sure
the release date for the full rules...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 10:57
while I appreciate the rules previews, the teasing gets a bit... teasy now.
Remembers me of that girl that just keeps you hanging for months because reason.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 11:03
i've seen this style of teasing before a big release from other games. if they don't keep the pace of the reveals up, everyone's going to get tired of it and the hype will die out
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 18 2017 11:42
It's funny, in two weeks of leaks we'll almost have the core rules already...!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 12:14
Noon-thirty my time
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 14:08
Vehicles can fight back now - NICE
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 14:09
i'm cracking up imagining an annihilation barge ramming into the ground trying to squash some unfortunate guardsman
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 14:11
that is amusing as hell
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 15:20
FREEEEM confirmed as the sound of lascannons
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 15:21
huh? :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 15:22
WHTV - they have a WD guy on talking to rob
For context - http://tsoalr.com
The greatest 40k Webcomic ever
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 15:56
I will have to move my LR now over enemy models
all the while making "VROOM VROOOM AAAAH SPLAT" noises.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 15:57
Lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 15:57
kinda like the defiler in starcrafts
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 15:58
Now to just wait a half hour for the FAQ session
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 15:58
easy. Watch youtube. Install DSFix.
update WoWS to finally crush the Hood under iron German heels.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:05
oh and wipe away all that blood and shit on the floor.
Thanks cat... that bird with its head half chewed off was spectacular.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:07
Wow you got a bird? I usually get mice or voles
Every once in a while my cat is an overachiever and brings me kangaroo mouse but usually plain mice or voles
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:09
mostly mice. Almost everything is a mouse. Rarely a bird, had a lizard once. And.. 2 big fat rats. Like FICKING huge rats. 30cm covered in festering sores. Canal rats, the evil kind.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:20
Ewwww
lol I love how your German keeps randomly bleeding through lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:21
Canal rats? :P
ah yes. sewer rats
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 18 2017 16:23
there pre-show music is pretty soothing lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:24
get rid of that smiley guyi want rob back
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:24
No I meant the ficking lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:24
that was actually a typo:P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:24
The preshow music is nice
Lol still German lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:25
bur sice the cat block my right hand rightz now typing is hard ^^
well yes... kinda ^^
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:31
And we're live
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:31
go go go
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:33
So they are part custodes
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 16:33
and part primarch
ultramarine fapping begins
what?
sm are pokemon now
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:51
Perils are mortal wounds now - nice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 16:51
yup, on the roll of a double 1
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:53
Keywords sounds like it's exactly what I wanted out of it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 16:55
units can share transports :D
where did i put my gorgon?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 18 2017 16:56
transports got better, damn
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 16:56
Heh stormlord
Even though SHVs always could carry multiple units
zopha
@zopha
May 18 2017 17:10
"There might be a cowled one on his way soon." From the 8th Q&A about more Primarchs.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 17:11
obviously morty
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 17:11
yeh.
sadface.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 18 2017 17:12

mortyconfirmed

Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 17:12
wheres rick?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 18 2017 17:12
not around :cry:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 17:12
dont be rickdiculous
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 17:13
Rick is big E?
zopha
@zopha
May 18 2017 17:14
Each time a Rick kills another Rick he absorbs his power, like that movie starring Jet Li, The One. In the year 30,000 there is only one Rick remaining.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 18 2017 17:15
im ok with this
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 21:52
That's really rick....y.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 18 2017 22:07
asylum cleared. That fucking stray took me a bit till I had it figured.. onwards to snake men!
Also, got this:
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Black+Knight+Sword
12k souls until I can use it!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 22:28
yay for sen's funhouse :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:28
Dios mio
I've gone full GW apologist on one of my local group's pages - because everyone there is convinced that GW will discontinue all plastic marines save MKX
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 18 2017 22:30
well yeah, just not anytime soon
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:31
It'll be before CSM gets a new plastic kit though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:42
See I don't think they will, at all
And my reasoning is HH. They need to at least keep the MKIII/MKIV in production indefinitely
And since technically mk5/6/7 are still HH marks, they should still stay in production too
Unless GW is planning on releasing MK5/6/7 kits like the MKIII/MKIV kits, where they are specifically only that mark
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:54
Has anybody messed with the new editor yet?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:55
@zopha was - he mentioned something about breaking links
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:55
The categories are borked
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:55
Yeah
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:55
I'm messing with AoS. Added the Murderhost (1 BLOODLETTER HERO), 3-8 other units
Bloodletters are battleline, and it's not working for validation if I set them up how it should
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:56
That's what he mentioned - that it doesn't automatically convert old categories to tags
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:56
It is doing that. What it isn't doing is checking them properly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:56
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 22:56
Say, I give Bloodletters the Battleline category
alreayd working on it
I posted a LOT before v2 came out
If I then link to Bloodletters in a battalion, they should still count as Battleline. It's not doing that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 22:57
Oh ok, got you
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:02
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#135
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:02
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#134
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:02
He's gonna hate me eventually
He did ask for it lol
But am I being unreasonable in my argument?
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:03
Can you give us the short version rather than paste in 30 screenshots of a conversation? :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:03
That's the end lol
Just those 7
Is it an unreasonable argument?
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:08
Even if they do scale everything up I don't see what the big fucking deal is
Your statements seem logical
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:15
Since GW has pretty firmly already established that MKX primarus marines are bigger then old marines, I don't see scaling up everything as an option - bigger marines use MKX, smaller marines use MKIII-MKVIII
Also, there's the continuity of MKIII/MKIV marines in HH- they're all roughly the same size, and 11,000 years before MKX was a twinkle in Cawl/Girlyman's eyes.
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:32
Ok, so validation for categories does work.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:38
Were you doing something wrong?
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:39
Yes.
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#135 for explanation
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:41
Ah I see
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:42
That being said, the new method works really well. There are just a few other bugs to work out.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:43
:+1: I'll need a primer at some point so I can help @zopha start implementing on HH cats
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:43
And I just got an idea for a feature request
Be able to set an Entry Group to show any from one category.
For instance, the Murderhost requires one BLOODLETTER HERO. If I added the BLOODLETTER HERO category to all units that match that description (Herald, Jerald, Blood Throne, and Skulltaker), setting an entry group to show all BLOODLETTER HEROs would be great
Does that make sense?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 18 2017 23:48
So that the entry group allows you to select from that pool? That would be fantastic
cartag
@cartag
May 18 2017 23:58
without having to link to each individual BLOODLETTER HERO in that entry group
or say BLOODTHIRSTER. Would default to all three of the regular ones, Skarbrand, and any FW ones that have the BLOODTHIRSTER category on them