so apparently primaris assault marines have a heavy bolter on each arm
Nice. I was close. I guessed they would be rapid fire 2, but 18" Assault 3 works
Str 5 -1 is awesome tho
i'm just wondering why they have two guns. is it just to look cool?
Maybe, unless they change it to units being able to fire all weapons they have?
i hope not, otherwise marines are going to be firing triple within 12"
If rapid fire still doesn't let you charge, then I'll take that trade.off
Where do I sign up to work on 8th edition catalogs?
None have started yet. We won't until launch due to basically new game.
But you can submit a join request on GitHub as an issue
oh i'm already joined
Oh
I think we'll get everything leaked by weekend of June 3rd because all stores will have store-copies of indexes for demo days.
I think @Kohato will do roll call close to launch and see who is available to break up all the cats and knock out shit asap
that might give us two weeks before anyone thinks of using
are there design discussion tickets about how we can represent 8th edition rules within Battlescribe catalogs?
I'll try to confirm that since I'm waiting for HR to tell me I'm hired as my store's on-call
The alpha release on BS ATM had catagories
Has*
Those will be for our keywords
Someone is checking looking and validation for then. Idr who tho
That's the plan.
To do a roll call at some point i mean.
Pretty much all discussion on how to do things are here
I guess I need to do the alpha to check out linking and validation for AoS
Especially concerning 8e
That would probably be good @flakpanda
That's an overhaul. đ
I know @cartag was doing chaos but that's just 1 cat
Yeah it is but we knew it'd need to be done eventually
Yup, chaos is MINE lol
Maniacal Lough
Laugh
Lough? Lol
âloaf?â lol
I'm likely playing Dark Angels at ATC so I'd like to work on that catalog.
we'll let you talk that out with @Thairne, shall we?
lol
fyi @axisofentropy this is a thankless job :p
@Thairne wake up old man. Someone wants to steal your thunder.
Autocorrect
thairne and i both worked on the old dark angels catalog and i did both ad mech catalogs myself
(tho i didn't maintain them)
imo, once the data for 8th get to our hand, we just need to worry about getting it out first and foremost. afterwards who maintains what can happen
yeah and that's gonna happen before June 16th
maybe even june 3rd
Agreed.
@Kohato so for AoS i should be able to tag units as leaders and behemoths and it count towards both now, correct?
^ that's the idea
primary catagory checkbox does�
Is what it sorts by if I remember.
Haven't dug into the alpha too much.
ok, was assuming that but wanted to be sure
changes which group it shows up in on the roster editor
like the old category drop down
shit, bye bye Leader/Behemoth. pain in my ass
Yup. So for 40k it should nearly always be the foc slot
yeah
omg this is so nice. all those issues solved
fyi @Kohato to force Profile Types to a certain order, you can add a number to the front of them in the gst that way they are in order on the print out
figured that will be useful in 8th with damage charts
still need to tinker around with damage tables, i saw a screenshot of one that cartag did but havent looked at it proper yet
they are all over AoS
Nice.
is AoS the columes are named differant things for units, but in 40k they are them same so its easy
M WS BS. so just make a profile with those 3 things
and add a profile for each row
there is your table
its not always those 3 that change though
are you sure?
the morkanaut loses attacks im pretty sure
thought everything shown was
yeah see the gorkanot
well we will have to see how many variables there are
having three different statlines sounds like it would work tho no matter which stats are *
Yeah @Thairne has gotten anal about his cats lol
yeah, just if its a changing number it can be dumb
Anal old German man
Mortal wounds do overflow- interesting
im ok with this
Right, so those (stupidly named assault marines) are vicious, against guardians (assumed) a squad if three puts out 9 shots, hit with 6, wound with 4 and kill 3.3... From a squad of 10 with a leadership of 7 you have a 50 chance to lose another dude and be half strength... From one round of shooting...
unless each one shoots 6 times :3
Well exactly, looks like I need to build some more guardians either way...
It is interesting that they gave them each 2 assault bolters. No reason to really unless they can fire both
but i could be wrong and they are just "rule of coolâing it
Yer, if they were pistols it would make more sense but yes, perhaps they can fire both at - 1 BS or something, same as with combi weapons...
yeah
id be ok shooting both at -1
assault 6 and 4+
*at
so deep strike a squad at shoot 18 shots
then maybe punch something weak to death
So, 6 per is 18 shots, 9 hits, 6 wounds and 5 dead, which means more will likely be removed from battle shock, I'd say you'd be lucky to have 3 or 4 guardians left...
Which they could easily chomp in melee
Also, is the captain even more of a combat monster now...?
hitting on a 2+ with 5 attacks. i would say so
those primaris marines are going to be hard to shift and pack a punch...
yeah, those inceptors are basically 2W jetbikes
FYI, Helblaster Squads have Plasmarifles. 30â Rapid Fire, S7 AP-3, D1
Plasma doesnt get hot anymroe
you can boost is +1S -1AP
that sounds like tech heresy
but on hit roll of 1, the model is slain
so S8 AP-4
that is pretty horrible... Obviously if your captain is nearby you can re-roll your 1 and avoid death??
im sure
the manager said nids were doing work at their retail workshop. everyone played 8th to get ready for it
here's compilation of leaks so far today http://imgur.com/a/kVg7o
includes all the detachments and army construction
@flakpanda where u getting those plasma rifle rules
my gw manager. we were talking about the retail workshop before people walked in
im getting hired in as the on-call here so he tells me things
good leak on the army construction
how will those detachments work in battlescribe? Do we have a way to track command points or is that left for end users to do themselves?
Users will likely track that themselves
I like the aux detachment. Balanced for taking outside of detachment choices.
Yeah let's not track CP
That's like commissars for IG - I still want to take that checkbox away
so, guess get started on a gst them
probably best to wait for 2.01?
i meant with the alpha
doo eet
i guess so, if Jon doesnt make any more changes to the data structure
should we start a new git repository?
no
we are going to move 7th to a new one
so anyone cloning the 8th repo will get all those 7th commits?
the comits stay with the files don't they??
so they would move too...?
the current repo will be cloned and become 7th. then we will purge it and upload 8th files
yeah that's good but by "purge" do you mean remove all the commits? Or just commit an empty tree?
idk, thats @amis92 âs territory i beleive
@Kohato could probably answer too
ok. i recommend renaming the existing
wh40k repo to something else, then creating a new wh40k git repo with a new Initial Commit. That's the cleanest start.
yes, but then every user has to update their data links
it has to do with the appspot pointer if i rememeber correctly
thats why clone then purge
and... not all BS users are computer savvy shall we say...
^
@FarseerVeraenthis none of this will be visible to ppl downloading via appspot
hmmm... then I fall back to @flakpanda 's point about how appspot works...
i haven't looked at the appspot pointers recently, but they're probably pointing to a URL, not commits.
and SOME people do link directly to the repo...
personally id rather do more work then tell people that use battlescribe to change something. the 1.15->2.0 backlash was stupid
yeah, the data link is just a url to where appspot hosts the data
so 1) make a new repo to prep for 8e. 2) move the current repo somewhere else. 3) move the new 8e repo into wh40k
i believe that was the basic plan
oh good that's what i recommended
I have some stuff started for 8th, I can fork when I get home and upload
as predicted, we're getting about all the info from the starter box very soon http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_13145/gallery_8429_13145_47383.jpg
The plan is to use this repo so nobody needs to relink data. Just update on bs and go.
No need to purge. The repo, we just clone it for history into a new repo then update existing cat files.
no i think we want to discard all the 7th history.
and start over with a new Initial Commit
this can be done without requiring any action from end users, as @GenWilhelm has laid out.
either way, I'd probably suggest that someone save those pic ASAP, I am certain it will be "moderated" shortly...
they're on my phone, and no i actually don't expect them to disappear from forums. dakkadakka allows leaks up until release day, then they stop being "rumors" i guess.
also GW says these "core rules" will be free.
yah, but points and profiles are usually a no-go...
arent they??
well, either way, I'll let the "more experienced" maintainers take the lead and go from there :-)
oh yeah you're right about points and statlines.
Lol. Nah. Those will stay up on various sites
Aos point spoilers stay til release
groovy :-)
those primaris look pretty spendy
do you have to pay 14 points for the weapons on standard equipped inte(r)ce(pt)ors?
Looks like it @FarseerVeraenthis - good
Means no need for set pts to 0