These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

30th
May 2017
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 00:03 UTC
Cool, that's what I've been doing so far.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 00:52 UTC
The points listings all being on a handful of tables certainly doesn't make adding points to things easy
Flipping backwards and forwards isn't the most convenient thing ever.
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 00:52 UTC
Do them one table at a time
easiest way
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 00:52 UTC
I have done. It was still a right pain.
For those unaware, the Gitter chat regarding BattleScribe Alphas is here: https://gitter.im/BattleScribe/BattleScribe?utm_source=share-link&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=share-link
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:06 UTC
Stormsurge kind of disappoints tbh
4+ BS at full, and "Only" 20 wounds
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 02:09 UTC
But it shoots 10 guns a turn...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:09 UTC
Only 1 Destroyer Missile per round I thought
oh nvm
Just a longer way to say 1 use only
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:10 UTC
now i feel less bothered by not having bought any
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 02:10 UTC
stormsurge has 3 attacks and, unlike imperial Knight, can't walk over infantry. surround it with a dozen models, it's stuck.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:10 UTC
i have a taunar but not a stormsurge.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 02:10 UTC
I'm really unsure what to think of the Tau changes.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:11 UTC
i'm ok with no monats - t5 crisis suits is a finally
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:11 UTC
SS is only 180 points now, wonder how much the upgrades make him base
ugh. 400~ points still
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 02:12 UTC
A startling amount
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:12 UTC
SS's will likely stay on the shelf now
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
why do i feel like the taunar will be 500+
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
It's 900 now
isn't it?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
ouch
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
I mean in 7th
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
1k in 7th
Wait, no, 600 even
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:13 UTC
Ahh, 600
It will likely stay that.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
thats right.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
new SS is about the same as 7th ed.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
i don'y know why i thought it was less.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
but got nerfed it seems.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
.<
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
It was already a glass cannon since it wasn't a walker.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
i used it once in a 1k team game.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:14 UTC
Grav shredded it like a wet paper bag.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:15 UTC
it underperformed for being a GMC - but i also was soft-playing it too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 02:17 UTC
I'm happy with the leaked c'tans
Kinda sad it's not equippable powers like 5th
but they seem useable now
And they're characters, so ... GL killing the fuckers.
And 8th Reanimation. It's back to "We'll be BAck" in a fashion
Exactly like ghouls/skeletons in AOS.
Gonna piss off a lot of people. I love it
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 02:22 UTC
My initial opinion of Tau changes are an overall nerf, maybe a little heavy-handed and ends up removing a lot of our quirky stuff. Most notably buffed unit is Pathfinders, Railsides got a big buff but they cost a ton. Crisis Suits doubling in cost hurts my Farsight soul
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 02:23 UTC
railsides being awesome makes me happy
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 02:24 UTC
They're absurdly expensive, though - 20 points vs 63 points for HYMP vs HRR
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 02:29 UTC
where's the c'tan
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 02:39 UTC
^
fuck… i dont like how the catagories list is not alphanumeric
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 03:02 UTC
is it in order it appears in the XML file?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 03:02 UTC
yeah
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 03:02 UTC
some time last year I alphabetized the detachment types
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 03:02 UTC
i know i can edit the xml. but it lists catagories from the gst and cat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 03:14 UTC
some dakkadakka thread listed its stats
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 03:36 UTC
Our local Tau players are throwing a fit because riptides got pricier and suites got pricier and lost jsj.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 03:37 UTC
I do feel losing JSJ was a shame. It's been an army-defining tactic for editions.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 03:37 UTC
jump shoot jump?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 03:39 UTC
Lots of talk that they only want to play 4,000 point games now. Which is funny now but the Apoc crowd might put up a fight if there is general points increases.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 07:28 UTC
Can anyone look into #3723 please? I think it's all ok, but since I don't know that file I'll let you check if I screwed anything up.
Necron (in Italian). Scroll to about halfway down the page. Stats and such are perfectly readable for non-Italian speakers: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/12630/724730.page
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 08:33 UTC
Missions and any related stuff: http://imgur.com/a/gu4pw
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 08:35 UTC
ATSKNF leaked in there. Reroll failed morale tests.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:10 UTC
what is a "failed morale test" though...?? a test where people run away/are lost? because, that works both ways in that MORE people could run away!!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 09:11 UTC
I expect that to be a morale test that causes losses to your unit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:11 UTC
Sisters look good, 20 members in a squad, plenty of bodies, plenty of money for GW if they don't make plastic ones available!
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 09:14 UTC
I'm expecting plastic sisters and new unit types when their codex hits. For now they're part of the Imperial Agents in the Index (just like in 7th), but on the wh40k site they have their own entry amongst the other factions.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:19 UTC
I'm expecting Eldar leaks... damn it!!
and @Crowbar90 just merge it, I'm sure it'll be fine :smile:
:shipit:
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 09:20 UTC
If anything explodes, I didn't do anything!
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 09:21 UTC
Yeah, you and me both ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:22 UTC
wait until 8th arrives "properly"... remember the Version 2 BS upgrade, and all the crying... I'm anticipating that level of crying for all armies :-( but I'm sure it'll be fine, everyone knows the data is maintained by a community of volunteers right??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 09:22 UTC
hahahahahahahhahaha good one :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 09:30 UTC
Yeah don't merge yet - bad juju
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 09:32 UTC
Ehm... It may be too late for that
We can revert to a previous commit anyway
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:40 UTC
I'm not cavalier or anything... it's only one guy, and only one person has requested him...
;-)
"it'll be fine"
(hopefully)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 09:41 UTC
does he even have an official model?
or is he just that stealthy?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:42 UTC
yes, well, he DID have an official model, which is now OOP...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 09:43 UTC
SlyMarboConversion-1.jpg
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:43 UTC
he says, what a wally...
well, the original looked like that...
but was in metal
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 09:45 UTC
:P
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 09:46 UTC
nice, suddenly all the memes make sense
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 09:46 UTC
hehehehehe :-)
because I've been playing since forever I remember the original model
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 09:48 UTC
GW always used the profile picture for Marbo so the figure always looked better in GW pics
Of course the internet has to stress the derp of the figure lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 09:55 UTC
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 10:03 UTC
@Crowbar90, looking good. A couple minor points of improvement:
Melta bombs should be free and mandatory.
Ripper pistol and envenomed blade should appear as entries under Marbo.
Missing rules for sniper and poisoned.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 10:25 UTC
Oh damn, guess I was still too sleepy
I'll fix it right now :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 10:26 UTC
No worries :)
most of it is style, but we do encourage good practices
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 10:34 UTC
Yeah, I always agree with good coding practices :)
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 10:55 UTC
Fixed everything!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:25 UTC
Fabulous :cool:
now you just need to release it ;-)
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:35 UTC
You know, I've never used GitHub release system
I think I'll leave the pleasure to someone else for now
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 11:37 UTC
Release later - we don't want to release yet
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:39 UTC
but, but, but..!! The last release was two weeks ago!! (4 commits since last release)
yeah, wait for a little while, see if anyone else needs any other twiddling
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:39 UTC
I bet it's going to be the last release for 7th edition anyway, so it's probably worth waiting
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 11:40 UTC
there'll be one on 8e release day. even if it just an announcement
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:41 UTC
yes, that's what I meant - waiting until 8e release day
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 11:42 UTC
well releases dont cost us anything, why wait 3 weeks to get your hard work out there? :P
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:44 UTC
I don't know, I always have this feeling that releases must be some kind of milestones for big changes and upgrades... But I also tend to forget that most users need releases because they don't have access to our development versions :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 11:45 UTC
Well we want to make sure we don't release that tau stuff @bitjump was working on
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:45 UTC
yeah, releases here basically send the data to Appspot / allow it to be picked up by Appspot
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 11:46 UTC
thats on the 8e-prep branch isnt it?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:46 UTC
that was merged into the branch wasn't it...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 11:46 UTC
Is it? Idk I haven't actually looked at branches since Wednesday lol
Been too damn busy
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 11:48 UTC
by the looks of it, its still a request waiting to be merged
i say :shipit:
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:50 UTC
Yeah it's still just a pull request
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:52 UTC
:shipit: done :smile:
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 30 2017 11:53 UTC
Haha good
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 11:57 UTC
wait for the error reports when everyone's data suddenly stop working...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:28 UTC
Oy @alphalas I've informed my DA FB group of future plans. Some guys went and told me that 30k has no stats or rules anymore for months now
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Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:29 UTC
that sounds like user error
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:30 UTC
you think he disabled the output in the printout?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:30 UTC
:+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:30 UTC
if thats the case.... crozius powerfield activate!
penguin20000
@penguin20000
May 30 2017 14:31 UTC
doh!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:33 UTC
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Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:34 UTC
if he's on mobile make sure he's not using "low memory mode" - it prevents rules and profiles from displaying
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:35 UTC
Gods. Why do I even reply to these type of comments? now I'm 1st level support again... -.-
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:35 UTC
yay for the wonderful world of tech support :D
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:39 UTC
I'm definately NOT the guy you want to interact with customers.
"Did you try to appease the machine spirit?"
"Excuse me?"
"Did you apply the sacred balm to your machine?!"
"What are you even talk-"
"HERESY! PURGE!"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:45 UTC
lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:47 UTC
Sir, I am NOT a mechanicus person. If you are refusing to help I'm going to hang up.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:47 UTC
Hanging? What a novel idea... An Execution-pattern Noose Servitor has been dispatched to your cubicle. Please stand by for recycling.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:48 UTC
lol you guys
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:50 UTC
Hanging is a novel idea, but a noose isnt? :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:51 UTC
damnit gitter hasn't updated my new profile pic yet lol
ohh yes it has lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:51 UTC
rofl, wtf is that
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:51 UTC
noose are a well known STC discovered by Magos Arkham Noose in M30 in an old boxroom in the forge of Mt. Olympus. So nooses are not novel at all
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:51 UTC
aggravated sister lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:52 UTC
...
every day, we stray further from the Light of the God-Emperor.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 14:52 UTC
lol you know I did it just to bother you, old man :P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 14:53 UTC
Silence! The need to wait for Attack on Titan S2 E10 is already killing me :P
I don't need chibi sisters to remind me of that!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 14:57 UTC
WHERE IS TODAY's POST FROM WARHAMMER COMMUNITY!!! aaaaahhh!!!!!! :angry:
get to it, slackers!!
/rage
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 14:58 UTC
what, is the livestream schedule not good enough?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 15:00 UTC
livestream is no good to me at work :-(
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 15:04 UTC
keep calm and hit F5 :P
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 15:08 UTC
i'm happy we got a rhino dataslate in the sisters release
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 15:20 UTC
presses F5, nothing, presses F5, nothing...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 15:31 UTC
there it is look
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 15:35 UTC
hmm, dont think theres anything new in there :/
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 15:57 UTC
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 16:01 UTC
with these leaks coming out thick and fast I think we should allocate catalogues sooner rather than later
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 16:02 UTC
Some Orky sheets lower down the chat (Stompa, Warboss and Battlewagon) in German: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/12960/724730.page
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 16:08 UTC
Stompa has FORTY Wounds
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 16:09 UTC
well yeah, its a titan
knights had about 25 didnt they?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 16:12 UTC
24
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 16:12 UTC
I don't think it's got an invulnerable save though, so you can chew through them faster...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 16:31 UTC
The frustrating thing about that army building info is that it doesn't tell you the equivalent power level of the army... :-1:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 16:33 UTC
i guess power levels arent used in match play then
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 16:35 UTC
No they're for narrative
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 16:37 UTC
Yes, but it would still be nice to know what 1,000 points worth of power level looks like..
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 16:38 UTC
I think roughly 20 points for one power level.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 16:41 UTC
yeah, 15-20 was my ballpark before all these leaks, but i guess we have actual figures now
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 16:47 UTC
Sons of Russ or whatever: http://imgur.com/a/pqYKP
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 17:21 UTC
Q&A on GW facebook: Q: Do weapons the unit starts with in its description have to be purchased separately for matched play, or are the points included in the cost of the model?
A: All models come with a standard weapon, and those are covered in the points cost of the base model.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 17:22 UTC
Wait, what? That feels... incorrect.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 30 2017 17:22 UTC
I call bulshit.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 17:22 UTC
I mean, by all means, give me 150-point Stormsurges.
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 17:23 UTC
yeah that facebook reply is incorrect
some units have zero cost weapons but not all.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 30 2017 17:23 UTC
It's like.... 7th-ed-correct. O.o
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 17:25 UTC
I know, it seems off to me as well. Those Primaris Marines have only one load-out, so why have a pointslist for weapons then?
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 17:25 UTC
I think it's safe to almost definitely disregard that answer. Otherwise, 90% of the weapon points costs they've printed have no purpose
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 17:28 UTC
Agreed.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 30 2017 17:28 UTC
:+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 17:31 UTC
Jeez. Everytime I post in the DA FB group about something BS related I get.. kind of.. an anti-shitstorm. So many thanks and good jobs and whatnot... It's almost getting annoying! Guys, I just want to tell you something xD
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 30 2017 17:32 UTC
A German who doesn't shamelessly accept praise? holy crap lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 30 2017 17:32 UTC
I think there actually are people who know that it's all volunteers and really want us to keep doing what we do :)
It is in their best interest that we keep on :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 17:34 UTC
SS is 150 points
with no weapons.
like all of the profiles
except unique guys I think
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 17:34 UTC
Yeah, it was in the context of the Facebook comment.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 17:35 UTC
ohh
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 17:44 UTC
Jup, those guys are out there.. it is good to know that our work IS valued. Especially with those entitled brats that report issues sometimes..
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 17:44 UTC
if anyone complains just ask if they'd like to renegotiate their support contract
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 17:45 UTC
the thing is - you know it, I know it... but they either don't or choose to ignore it.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 17:49 UTC
Base cost of models officially clarified on Twitter:
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Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 17:49 UTC
Phew. Everything is right again with the world.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 18:07 UTC
I have some selection entries with assigned categories. They're not appearing as available entries at all as soon as I drag that catalogue file into roster editor. Any idea why?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 18:08 UTC
thats something to work with. I can start the cat with that..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 18:11 UTC
@Bitjump, you've got them linked in root entries?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 18:12 UTC
Wish they'd post SM :/
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 18:38 UTC
Imperial Knights, two-thirds down behind a spoiler tag: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/13050/724730.page
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 18:43 UTC
@Kohato Don't we have Space marines already? https://www.facebook.com/AOCPodcast/posts/1925875324324183
We've got a list of units and points at least. not the individual dataslates.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 30 2017 18:45 UTC
Thought that was just BA
Yea that's what I mean
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 19:12 UTC
khorne units get to fight twice per turn
i am okay with this
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:13 UTC
that's pretty brutal...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:24 UTC
does anyone else feel like they've tried to buff melee too far?
and also, I thought they were trying to remove bloat - almost every weapon does something different!!
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 19:32 UTC
nothing feels unbalanced to me yet. remember units can Fall Back from melee.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:33 UTC
but they do that at the end the Fight phase, so in the case of Khorne units, is that before or after the second attack??
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 30 2017 19:34 UTC
falling back is in the movement phase
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:34 UTC
the lesson is, don't let Khorne units get into combat with you
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 19:45 UTC
Phew. All non-HQ Tau units and rules written up. Not much left.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:49 UTC
good work :-)
here's a question to the floor - how will Deathwatch Kill Teams (i.e. mixed model units) work in 8th?
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
May 30 2017 19:49 UTC
Awkwardly.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 19:50 UTC
standard :-) no change there then!
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 20:48 UTC

I don't know that they buffed Melee too far. I play Orks. The ability for a unit of Ork Boyz with a powerclaw nob to kill a Rhino in close combat has been reduced, and to Kill a dread or imperial Knight it has been reduced much more dramatically. Same for other monsters like Riptides or Wraith Knights. I should have an easier time getting there, but once I'm there I'll have a rougher time killing it.

Same goes for my Genestealers. Much easier time to get to close combat. Much harder time killing big stuff once they get there.

Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 21:02 UTC
but they can chew through infantry like a hot knife through butter...
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 21:07 UTC
Yeah, somewhat. They are probably going to effectively lose an attack (based on the leaks so far), but they will be hitting on 3+ most of the time now, and with Strength 4 all the time, they will have a better time after the 1st round of combat.
<- Talking about orks. Genestealers gained an Attack, got cheaper, faster, and more durable.
And orks get their attack back if they make close combat with 20+ models, but count me skeptical of that.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 30 2017 21:31 UTC
+1 A for choppas isn't it?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 21:44 UTC
+1 A for choppas no pistol + CCW bonus, so that is a wash. The loss of a charge bonus is where Orks are losing attacks.
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
May 30 2017 22:24 UTC
All dark Eldar on this Instagram account https://www.instagram.com/canhammer_yt/
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 30 2017 22:25 UTC
And Sammael!
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 22:25 UTC
Shit, at this rate we will be ready for 8th an launch
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:36 UTC
Kharn is a fucking monster
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:40 UTC
Yeah well, daemon an' all, so duh! :wink:
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:40 UTC
He's not a daemon, he's just been resurrected by Khorne himself after getting ran over by a land raider
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:42 UTC
Oh wait, that guy! Sorry, not really a Chaos fan. Got it mixed up with that named Bloodthirster.
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:42 UTC
not Skarbrand lol
I'm wanting to see his rules though
Kharn: 12 attacks per Fight phase, S6 Ap-4, D3 Damage, WS 2+
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:42 UTC
Yeah, that's the one. My bad :tongue:
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:43 UTC
and all friendly World Eater units within 1" can reroll failed hit rolls
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:43 UTC
Sounds cozy, 1"
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:43 UTC
No different than plopping him in the middle of a squad of zerkers :)
just have them flanking him
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:46 UTC
Chaos stuff, enjoy! http://imgur.com/a/m4L2J
And below that Tech-priest Doinus and Enginseer.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 22:54 UTC
Shoota boyz are cheaper. Yay.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:55 UTC
Tyranid Profiles: http://imgur.com/a/IY9ks
Do we already have pointscost for Chaos weapons (Heretic Astartes, I think)?
Ah, what the hell:
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:58 UTC
weapon points are same across the game we think
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:58 UTC
SM25lry.jpg
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:58 UTC
found the same post you're pulling that from I think lol
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 22:59 UTC
Yeah, I'm just trying to catch up since coming home from work. They move fast!
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 22:59 UTC
Combi points are the same
heavy flamer and bolter, havoc launcher... flamer, lascannon, etc
all same points as loyalist or other leaks
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 23:00 UTC
Some Sicarian stuff halfway, inbetween Bloodthirsters and Boyz: https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/socials/6#comment-3332201934
Custodes:
20170530_163616.jpg
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 23:03 UTC
to those working on prep work, I just synced a new GST
There will likely be another one up after I add in more weapons as entries.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 30 2017 23:03 UTC
I'm up to date, g'night everyone. Happy leaking!
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 23:04 UTC
:+1:
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 30 2017 23:19 UTC
Wow, the T-Fex really took a whallop from the nerf bat. That was unexpected. He is more durable, I guess, but his damage output is going to be fairly small.
He also lost quite a few upgrade options. A much less versatile unit now.
cartag
@cartag
May 30 2017 23:27 UTC
Firechicken with baleflamer went from 170 to 215 points
Lord of Skulls with stock layout dropped from 888, it's still 723 though :/
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 30 2017 23:44 UTC