Cool, that's what I've been doing so far.
The points listings all being on a handful of tables certainly doesn't make adding points to things easy
Flipping backwards and forwards isn't the most convenient thing ever.
Do them one table at a time
easiest way
I have done. It was still a right pain.
For those unaware, the Gitter chat regarding BattleScribe Alphas is here: https://gitter.im/BattleScribe/BattleScribe?utm_source=share-link&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=share-link
Stormsurge kind of disappoints tbh
4+ BS at full, and "Only" 20 wounds
But it shoots 10 guns a turn...
Only 1 Destroyer Missile per round I thought
oh nvm
Just a longer way to say 1 use only
now i feel less bothered by not having bought any
stormsurge has 3 attacks and, unlike imperial Knight, can't walk over infantry. surround it with a dozen models, it's stuck.
i have a taunar but not a stormsurge.
I'm really unsure what to think of the Tau changes.
i'm ok with no monats - t5 crisis suits is a finally
SS is only 180 points now, wonder how much the upgrades make him base
ugh. 400~ points still
A startling amount
SS's will likely stay on the shelf now
why do i feel like the taunar will be 500+
It's 900 now
isn't it?
ouch
I mean in 7th
1k in 7th
Wait, no, 600 even
Ahh, 600
It will likely stay that.
thats right.
new SS is about the same as 7th ed.
i don'y know why i thought it was less.
but got nerfed it seems.
.<
It was already a glass cannon since it wasn't a walker.
i used it once in a 1k team game.
Grav shredded it like a wet paper bag.
it underperformed for being a GMC - but i also was soft-playing it too
I'm happy with the leaked c'tans
Kinda sad it's not equippable powers like 5th
but they seem useable now
And they're characters, so ... GL killing the fuckers.
And 8th Reanimation. It's back to "We'll be BAck" in a fashion
Exactly like ghouls/skeletons in AOS.
Gonna piss off a lot of people. I love it
My initial opinion of Tau changes are an overall nerf, maybe a little heavy-handed and ends up removing a lot of our quirky stuff. Most notably buffed unit is Pathfinders, Railsides got a big buff but they cost a ton. Crisis Suits doubling in cost hurts my Farsight soul
railsides being awesome makes me happy
They're absurdly expensive, though - 20 points vs 63 points for HYMP vs HRR
where's the c'tan
^
fuck… i dont like how the catagories list is not alphanumeric
is it in order it appears in the XML file?
yeah
some time last year I alphabetized the detachment types
i know i can edit the xml. but it lists catagories from the gst and cat
some dakkadakka thread listed its stats
Our local Tau players are throwing a fit because riptides got pricier and suites got pricier and lost jsj.
I do feel losing JSJ was a shame. It's been an army-defining tactic for editions.
jump shoot jump?
Lots of talk that they only want to play 4,000 point games now. Which is funny now but the Apoc crowd might put up a fight if there is general points increases.
Can anyone look into #3723 please? I think it's all ok, but since I don't know that file I'll let you check if I screwed anything up.
Sisters of Battle proper leak: http://natfka.blogspot.nl/2017/05/sisters-of-battle-leaks.html?m=1
Necron (in Italian). Scroll to about halfway down the page. Stats and such are perfectly readable for non-Italian speakers: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/12630/724730.page
Missions and any related stuff: http://imgur.com/a/gu4pw
ATSKNF leaked in there. Reroll failed morale tests.
what is a "failed morale test" though...?? a test where people run away/are lost? because, that works both ways in that MORE people could run away!!
I expect that to be a morale test that causes losses to your unit
Sisters look good, 20 members in a squad, plenty of bodies, plenty of money for GW if they don't make plastic ones available!
I'm expecting plastic sisters and new unit types when their codex hits. For now they're part of the Imperial Agents in the Index (just like in 7th), but on the wh40k site they have their own entry amongst the other factions.
I'm expecting Eldar leaks... damn it!!
and @Crowbar90 just merge it, I'm sure it'll be fine :smile:
:shipit:
If anything explodes, I didn't do anything!
Yeah, you and me both ;)
wait until 8th arrives "properly"... remember the Version 2 BS upgrade, and all the crying... I'm anticipating that level of crying for all armies :-( but I'm sure it'll be fine, everyone knows the data is maintained by a community of volunteers right??
hahahahahahahhahaha good one :P
Yeah don't merge yet - bad juju
Ehm... It may be too late for that
We can revert to a previous commit anyway
I'm not cavalier or anything... it's only one guy, and only one person has requested him...
;-)
"it'll be fine"
(hopefully)
does he even have an official model?
or is he just that stealthy?
yes, well, he DID have an official model, which is now OOP...
I think this is the "original" model: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SlyMarboConversion-1.jpg
SlyMarboConversion-1.jpg
he says, what a wally...
well, the original looked like that...
but was in metal
:P
nice, suddenly all the memes make sense
hehehehehe :-)
because I've been playing since forever I remember the original model
GW always used the profile picture for Marbo so the figure always looked better in GW pics
Of course the internet has to stress the derp of the figure lol
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
@Crowbar90, looking good. A couple minor points of improvement:
Melta bombs should be free and mandatory.
Ripper pistol and envenomed blade should appear as entries under Marbo.
Missing rules for sniper and poisoned.
Melta bombs should be free and mandatory.
Ripper pistol and envenomed blade should appear as entries under Marbo.
Missing rules for sniper and poisoned.
Oh damn, guess I was still too sleepy
I'll fix it right now :)
No worries :)
most of it is style, but we do encourage good practices
Yeah, I always agree with good coding practices :)
Fixed everything!
Fabulous :cool:
now you just need to release it ;-)
You know, I've never used GitHub release system
I think I'll leave the pleasure to someone else for now
Release later - we don't want to release yet
but, but, but..!! The last release was two weeks ago!! (4 commits since last release)
yeah, wait for a little while, see if anyone else needs any other twiddling
I bet it's going to be the last release for 7th edition anyway, so it's probably worth waiting
there'll be one on 8e release day. even if it just an announcement
yes, that's what I meant - waiting until 8e release day
well releases dont cost us anything, why wait 3 weeks to get your hard work out there? :P
I don't know, I always have this feeling that releases must be some kind of milestones for big changes and upgrades... But I also tend to forget that most users need releases because they don't have access to our development versions :P
Well we want to make sure we don't release that tau stuff @bitjump was working on
yeah, releases here basically send the data to Appspot / allow it to be picked up by Appspot
thats on the 8e-prep branch isnt it?
that was merged into the branch wasn't it...
Is it? Idk I haven't actually looked at branches since Wednesday lol
Been too damn busy
by the looks of it, its still a request waiting to be merged
i say :shipit:
Yeah it's still just a pull request
:shipit: done :smile:
Haha good
wait for the error reports when everyone's data suddenly stop working...
Oy @alphalas I've informed my DA FB group of future plans. Some guys went and told me that 30k has no stats or rules anymore for months now
that sounds like user error
you think he disabled the output in the printout?
:+1:
if thats the case.... crozius powerfield activate!
doh!
if he's on mobile make sure he's not using "low memory mode" - it prevents rules and profiles from displaying
Gods. Why do I even reply to these type of comments? now I'm 1st level support again... -.-
yay for the wonderful world of tech support :D
I'm definately NOT the guy you want to interact with customers.
"Did you try to appease the machine spirit?"
"Excuse me?"
"Did you apply the sacred balm to your machine?!"
"What are you even talk-"
"HERESY! PURGE!"
"Did you try to appease the machine spirit?"
"Excuse me?"
"Did you apply the sacred balm to your machine?!"
"What are you even talk-"
"HERESY! PURGE!"
lol
Sir, I am NOT a mechanicus person. If you are refusing to help I'm going to hang up.
Hanging? What a novel idea... An Execution-pattern Noose Servitor has been dispatched to your cubicle. Please stand by for recycling.
lol you guys
Hanging is a novel idea, but a noose isnt? :P
damnit gitter hasn't updated my new profile pic yet lol
ohh yes it has lol
rofl, wtf is that
noose are a well known STC discovered by Magos Arkham Noose in M30 in an old boxroom in the forge of Mt. Olympus. So nooses are not novel at all
aggravated sister lol
...
every day, we stray further from the Light of the God-Emperor.
every day, we stray further from the Light of the God-Emperor.
lol you know I did it just to bother you, old man :P
Silence! The need to wait for Attack on Titan S2 E10 is already killing me :P
I don't need chibi sisters to remind me of that!
I don't need chibi sisters to remind me of that!
WHERE IS TODAY's POST FROM WARHAMMER COMMUNITY!!! aaaaahhh!!!!!! :angry:
get to it, slackers!!
/rage
what, is the livestream schedule not good enough?
livestream is no good to me at work :-(
keep calm and hit F5 :P
i'm happy we got a rhino dataslate in the sisters release
presses F5, nothing, presses F5, nothing...
there it is look
hmm, dont think theres anything new in there :/
Tyranid points leak, not much else I'm afraid. http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/52446/8th-speculation-nids?page=80
with these leaks coming out thick and fast I think we should allocate catalogues sooner rather than later
Some Orky sheets lower down the chat (Stompa, Warboss and Battlewagon) in German: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/12960/724730.page
Stompa has FORTY Wounds
well yeah, its a titan
knights had about 25 didnt they?
24
I don't think it's got an invulnerable save though, so you can chew through them faster...
The frustrating thing about that army building info is that it doesn't tell you the equivalent power level of the army... :-1:
i guess power levels arent used in match play then
No they're for narrative
Yes, but it would still be nice to know what 1,000 points worth of power level looks like..
I think roughly 20 points for one power level.
yeah, 15-20 was my ballpark before all these leaks, but i guess we have actual figures now
Sons of Russ or whatever: http://imgur.com/a/pqYKP
Q&A on GW facebook: Q: Do weapons the unit starts with in its description have to be purchased separately for matched play, or are the points included in the cost of the model?
A: All models come with a standard weapon, and those are covered in the points cost of the base model.
A: All models come with a standard weapon, and those are covered in the points cost of the base model.
Wait, what? That feels... incorrect.
I call bulshit.
I mean, by all means, give me 150-point Stormsurges.
yeah that facebook reply is incorrect
some units have zero cost weapons but not all.
It's like.... 7th-ed-correct. O.o
I know, it seems off to me as well. Those Primaris Marines have only one load-out, so why have a pointslist for weapons then?
I think it's safe to almost definitely disregard that answer. Otherwise, 90% of the weapon points costs they've printed have no purpose
Agreed.
:+1:
Jeez. Everytime I post in the DA FB group about something BS related I get.. kind of.. an anti-shitstorm. So many thanks and good jobs and whatnot... It's almost getting annoying! Guys, I just want to tell you something xD
A German who doesn't shamelessly accept praise? holy crap lol
I think there actually are people who know that it's all volunteers and really want us to keep doing what we do :)
It is in their best interest that we keep on :D
SS is 150 points
with no weapons.
like all of the profiles
except unique guys I think
Yeah, it was in the context of the Facebook comment.
ohh
Jup, those guys are out there.. it is good to know that our work IS valued. Especially with those entitled brats that report issues sometimes..
if anyone complains just ask if they'd like to renegotiate their support contract
the thing is - you know it, I know it... but they either don't or choose to ignore it.
Base cost of models officially clarified on Twitter:
Phew. Everything is right again with the world.
I have some selection entries with assigned categories. They're not appearing as available entries at all as soon as I drag that catalogue file into roster editor. Any idea why?
thats something to work with. I can start the cat with that..
@Bitjump, you've got them linked in root entries?
Wish they'd post SM :/
Imperial Knights, two-thirds down behind a spoiler tag: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/13050/724730.page
@Kohato Don't we have Space marines already? https://www.facebook.com/AOCPodcast/posts/1925875324324183
We've got a list of units and points at least. not the individual dataslates.
Thought that was just BA
Yea that's what I mean
Bloodthirsters and some other Khorne stuffs http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333990-leaked-chaos-space-marine-rules/page-12#entry4761933
khorne units get to fight twice per turn
i am okay with this
that's pretty brutal...
does anyone else feel like they've tried to buff melee too far?
and also, I thought they were trying to remove bloat - almost every weapon does something different!!
nothing feels unbalanced to me yet. remember units can Fall Back from melee.
but they do that at the end the Fight phase, so in the case of Khorne units, is that before or after the second attack??
falling back is in the movement phase
the lesson is, don't let Khorne units get into combat with you
Phew. All non-HQ Tau units and rules written up. Not much left.
good work :-)
here's a question to the floor - how will Deathwatch Kill Teams (i.e. mixed model units) work in 8th?
Awkwardly.
standard :-) no change there then!
I don't know that they buffed Melee too far. I play Orks. The ability for a unit of Ork Boyz with a powerclaw nob to kill a Rhino in close combat has been reduced, and to Kill a dread or imperial Knight it has been reduced much more dramatically. Same for other monsters like Riptides or Wraith Knights. I should have an easier time getting there, but once I'm there I'll have a rougher time killing it.
Same goes for my Genestealers. Much easier time to get to close combat. Much harder time killing big stuff once they get there.
but they can chew through infantry like a hot knife through butter...
Yeah, somewhat. They are probably going to effectively lose an attack (based on the leaks so far), but they will be hitting on 3+ most of the time now, and with Strength 4 all the time, they will have a better time after the 1st round of combat.
<- Talking about orks. Genestealers gained an Attack, got cheaper, faster, and more durable.
And orks get their attack back if they make close combat with 20+ models, but count me skeptical of that.
+1 A for choppas isn't it?
+1 A for choppas no pistol + CCW bonus, so that is a wash. The loss of a charge bonus is where Orks are losing attacks.
All dark Eldar on this Instagram account https://www.instagram.com/canhammer_yt/
And Sammael!
Shit, at this rate we will be ready for 8th an launch
Halfway down, some Bloodthirsters and family: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333990-leaked-chaos-space-marine-rules/page-12
Kharn is a fucking monster
Yeah well, daemon an' all, so duh! :wink:
He's not a daemon, he's just been resurrected by Khorne himself after getting ran over by a land raider
Oh wait, that guy! Sorry, not really a Chaos fan. Got it mixed up with that named Bloodthirster.
not Skarbrand lol
I'm wanting to see his rules though
Kharn: 12 attacks per Fight phase, S6 Ap-4, D3 Damage, WS 2+
Yeah, that's the one. My bad :tongue:
and all friendly World Eater units within 1" can reroll failed hit rolls
Sounds cozy, 1"
No different than plopping him in the middle of a squad of zerkers :)
just have them flanking him
Chaos stuff, enjoy! http://imgur.com/a/m4L2J
Halfway down, Tankbusta and Boyz: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/13260/724730.page
And below that Tech-priest Doinus and Enginseer.
Shoota boyz are cheaper. Yay.
Tyranid Profiles: http://imgur.com/a/IY9ks
Do we already have pointscost for Chaos weapons (Heretic Astartes, I think)?
Ah, what the hell:
weapon points are same across the game we think
found the same post you're pulling that from I think lol
Yeah, I'm just trying to catch up since coming home from work. They move fast!
Combi points are the same
heavy flamer and bolter, havoc launcher... flamer, lascannon, etc
all same points as loyalist or other leaks
Some Sicarian stuff halfway, inbetween Bloodthirsters and Boyz: https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/socials/6#comment-3332201934
Custodes:
to those working on prep work, I just synced a new GST
There will likely be another one up after I add in more weapons as entries.
I'm up to date, g'night everyone. Happy leaking!
:+1:
Wow, the T-Fex really took a whallop from the nerf bat. That was unexpected. He is more durable, I guess, but his damage output is going to be fairly small.
He also lost quite a few upgrade options. A much less versatile unit now.
Firechicken with baleflamer went from 170 to 215 points
Lord of Skulls with stock layout dropped from 888, it's still 723 though :/
Guilliman: https://imgur.com/1va2O0o