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6th
Jun 2017
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 00:00
i once got a CCNA but that was like 13 years ago now
They expired after like 3.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:00
last certs i got was my clearance and lifeguard cert lol
but my clearance was due to what i enlisted as
lololol arch-flagellants have a 7+ sv
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 00:02
so do pox-walkers?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:02
its just ammusing.
amusing*
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 00:03
its better in than ‘-'
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 00:03
What, are you telling me you can't roll 7 on a d6?
But yeah, it's cleaner than - for questions like how do modifiers apply to a -
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 00:03
exactly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:05
That's like in 30k BA always wound on one less then normally needed in CC - does that mean str4 can wound something it normally coundn't?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 00:07
They do now
Yea :( every three years for sec+
But the island will pay for the renewal. I just have to pony up for the initial.
Also pox walkers are for cover
You can't get a cover save on "-"
Can't add 1 to something that doesn't exist.
Hopefully this and the secret clearance will be all I need to get. I know the clearance will open up a ton of jobs even if I leave the one I'm getting.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:10
no they don't - because HH is 7e >.<
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 00:11
Ohh thought you meant the 8e ones
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:18
no i wish BA got that in 40k
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:23
@alphalas Oh, bugger, I think I misunderstood you when said "go ahead earlier". Not much overlapping work though, did arco-flagellants and battle sisters with associated rules and gear selections
*said "go ahead" earlier
do you want to do the merge yourself? I pulled in the changes in the rep and applied my changes on top, and seems okay except for a broken link on uriah
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:25
upload your file here - i'll merge in your stuff
i literally just finished arco lol
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:30
pull req sent
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:31
no i meant click-drag your file here into gitter
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:31
doh
sec
got to double check version I'm on
shassino
@shassino
Jun 06 2017 00:32
sent the pull request
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:33
just upload - i'll take care of the rest
don't worry lol
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:34
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 00:34
danke
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 00:35
Thanks shass I'll take a look when I get off shift.
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:35
bitte, schön
shassino
@shassino
Jun 06 2017 00:36
Just a lil curiosity, I saw that every keyword has been handled as a category entry. It is correct my understanding that they will not appears in the report nor it cannot be selected the faction one at unit level?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 00:37
Well, i'm off to bed, got a good chunk of SW done tonight, all the HQ datasheets should now be in there. Think there's around 16 datasheets left of the SW specific stuff.
I think Jon's working on getting the Categories to appear on the output in BS
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 00:38
There's a request to get the output on the roster view, and no, it's not possible right now to filter by category without a lot of conditional modifiers
He closed the two requests for it since they are beyond the scope of the alpha, we'll see if they get added in the future or not
shassino
@shassino
Jun 06 2017 00:38
Understood, thanks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 00:40
Yea. Filter will be future feature. Display "should" work but isn't. He's working on that.
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 00:43
@alphalas btw, maybe it would be best if you gave me a set of units you want me to do, so there will be less collisions in work and easier merges
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 01:14
@Szeras i'm done for the night, just pushed - if you want to just try to finish stuff up go for it. cel and cannoness were all the further i got in the index, neither finished. also, please follow the example set in the cat of finished units.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 01:25
I'll probably be back in it in 12hr or so
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 01:39
Good god im bored.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 01:40
Start on gk or dw then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 01:41
I can't I'm at work
Nothing is happening. Professor Messer on YouTube but after 2 weeks of study it gets a bit monotonous
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 01:47
What do you do?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 01:48
Guard job at oscar Mayer
I watch raw meat reefers go in and out of the docks
My first two days were the most excitement I had. Had a driver hit the wall of my guard shack and then had to call an ambulance for an employee who had a heart attack. After that, jack shit.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 01:52
@flakpanda If nobody else chimes in to help on GK or DW, I'll work on one of them tomorrow.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 02:59
@tag8833 if my cult mech pull looks good I can start on GK tonight
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 03:23
fuck…. i just saw that “<CHAPTER>” doesnt show in the rosters because of the html… sigh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 03:31
Yup
I used ()
Instead
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 06 2017 03:32
stoopid html
Toreador13
@Toreador13
Jun 06 2017 04:43
I just figured out tonight that if you do <b><CHAPTER></b> it comes out like <> and bold
lol, now how to escape code on chat......
'<b><KABAL></b>'
<b>&lt;CHAPTER&gt;</b>
There we go
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 04:48
Oh nice. I'll have to go through necrons to do that instead of ()
Toreador13
@Toreador13
Jun 06 2017 04:50
It seems to format correctly no matter what format you view it in, BBCODE, Markdown, etc. I haven't seen an issue yet.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 08:41
just a quick word on army building... since all Eldar have the Aeldari Faction keyword, so don't have to run a Ynnari army to mix Drukhari//Harlequin//Asuryani unit together - right?? And the only advantage of specifically running Ynnari is that your units can share transports and you get strength from death (at the loss of all other faction special rules) ah, and you don't benefit from the Yncarne quite as much
is that right??
Philip Paulsen
@Randobar
Jun 06 2017 09:24
Any tips how to get the 8th files working for review? Ì have the 2.01.00 Alpha of BS and the files but opening the roosters deletes the warhammer.gst and opening a cat with the data editor delets that as well.
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 09:26
As in for testing lists etc?
I just made an 8th Edition folder under Data and dropped all the files from the 8th prep repo fork into that folder
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:31
yeah, download the ZIp, then extract it into the BS data folder and it should work from there
I had exactly the same problem trying to download only some of the files
Philip Paulsen
@Randobar
Jun 06 2017 09:37
thanks. solved it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:38
:+!:
:+1: even
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 09:43
Is no one doing grey knights?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:51
@tag8833 said he would work on either GK or DW "tomorrow"
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 09:52
just looking for work to do - xml files aren't really inducive to collaborate work I've found
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:52
also, there was a join request forsomeone else who wanted to work on DW...
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 09:52
(non ff merges can get pretty messy)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:53
yes, it is a little tricky when several people are trying to work on the same file
I think the pause is for flakpanda to finish SM so that it can be copied and stripped to create the GK and DW CAT's
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 06 2017 09:54
Ah, guess it's nothing fresh left to start on then?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 09:57
well, yes, I think everything is spoken for and at least started, so jumping into any of the CAT's now could be dangerous...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:04
@tag8833 do you want to be put down as Ynnari catalog keeper or not?? that's the last one that hasn't been officially "Claimed" on the Wiki
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:30
@FarseerVeraenthis Correct, you don't need to build an Ynnari list to be able to ally different Aeldari factions. You are incorrect about sharing transports though. What it says is that units with the Ynnead's Will ability are able to board Aeldari Transports, it's specifically meant for The Visarch and Yvraine to be able to use the Aeldari Transports.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:37
aha, yes I re-read that now... I thought all units that had gained the Ynnari faction gained Strength from Pain as well as Ynnead's Will. Alas, no... so no sharing of transports apart from the Triumvirate can board anything they could usually board (i.e. Yncarne can't board anything), tbh sharing of transports always felt a little odd...
I feel like I want some Drukhari... I have a desire to build a Wych cult, they sound nasty in combat and the Drukhari transports have WS 3+...! plus, hellions & Reavers from Gangs of Commoragh sounds like a good investment
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:39
Yep, also not all units that gain Ynnari keyword gain Strength from Pain, just the Infantry and Biker units. It's more restricted in that sense than it was in 7th (and rightly so).
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:40
yeah, it does fit the fluff from Gathering Storm II though, seems like mostly was infantry that followed Yvraine through the webway
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:40
I'm also eyeing the Drukhari list, since now it's so easy to put them together with the other Aeldari. I think that's pretty brilliant.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:40
I feel bad, I'm excited to buy new models and play battles and try some different things
but that means spending money
on MORE models...
I need to win the lottery
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:41
That need painting...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:41
oh yeah, not like I've got an entire spirit host that needs building and painting
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:41
Exactly!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:41
and all the aspect warriors to build and paint
Asurmen + Dire Avengers looks like a mean combo
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:42
At least they'll be useful again these days, might offer you some incentive to do that.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 10:42
well exactly
also, I have the harlequins from Death Masque to build as well
and an entire Watchblade Taskforce to build...
it's all about black and white - I play Xenos and Xenos hunters :-)
but I want to use all the models I have, so that must be GW's marketing machine working nicely!!
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 06 2017 10:47
Know that feeling. Got those selfsame Harlies lying around, an extra Starweaver, the Ynnari Triumvirate, Aspects and Guardians from 2nd edition... and still I kept buying stuff up until recently. Now I'm painting, but it's a slow process.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 11:00
uhuh, I joined a "Tale of Gamers" at Christmas, bought loads of Deathwatch and have been painting them rather than my Eldar... TBH it has boosted my desire to get into painting because the DW minis are ace. But yes, very slow
although, I have no idea where I would store all the models once they were built!!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 11:09
oh GW...
Any model can exchange his bolt pistol for an item from the pistols list.
looks at pistols
Bolt pistol. Yey!
DO ALL THE TRADES!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 11:10
hahahah!! speaking of bolt pistols, did I say YAYAYAYAYAY!! Deathwatch has Bolt Pistols!!
they must have found a crate of them "out back"
I'm glad I didn't give the ones that came with my vanguard veterans away
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 11:59
@FarseerVeraenthis I'd rather not be Yannari's main keeper. I don't really know that faction very well.
@Szeras go ahead and do Deathwatch. I think @tekton has GK handled. Today is going to be pretty busy for me, so I probably won't have much time to work on BS.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 13:10
@GenWilhelm or @Kohato did @tekton just commit 8e stuff to master?
I'm on mobile right now so I can't really tell
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:11
closed the pull request, ie. not merged
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:16
can anybody tell me what is looking wrong in this?
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image.png
It should not be throwing up validation errors, and I've recreated the entry twice now
image.png
Knight weapons only has one option in it. I can't see where the problem lies, unless I'm just blind as a bat
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:18
the two top level groups should not have "all child selections" checked
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:19
They don't.
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Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 13:19
You've got a max of 1 set in the shared group, and the shared group appears twice in the entry. I'll bet it is adding them together.
Maybe the Avenger gatling cannon is set to collective.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:20
They're not in the same parent though, ancestor yes, parent no
nope
nothing is set to collective
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:20
they do have the same parent
"renegade knight" is their parent
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:20
I thought it went back one level for parent
which would take it to two different entry groups
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:21
groups cant be parents, i thought
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 13:21
for the sake of debugging, I recommend you duplicated the shared entry group, and link to the copy of it on one of the selections. If that works, you know that was the issue.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:22
what the actual fuck... that can't be working as intende
intended
well, Knight weapons aren't going to be their own shared entry group now, regardless of how many renegade knights we get in the future
that is just bad. So because two entry groups are nested in two other entry groups, it bypasses all of them to go back until it's not a group... that seems broken as hell. Broken as in bad, not as in OP
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 13:30
Just make 2 groups. Knight arm 1. Knight arm 2. That way you can set the default on each, and make each a radio list for usability.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:38
@tag8833 that's cool, I thought that would be the answer :+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:44
@cartag could you try just making the "Thunderstrike gauntlet and options" a selection entry, instead of a group? that might make it work "properly"
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:44
It shouldn't have to be that way though </grumble>
It's an either or thing, not both. I'll just do that later, since there's no chance in BS ever being any different
I have to change a bunch in CSM now also I think for the same reason. Downfall of building it all over from scratch
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:47
just try not to over-think it...
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 13:47
@alphalas the github UI was being...weird...it showed the right branch but then made it for master
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:48
How is logic over thinking it?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:50
I can't follow the logic of how you've setup the weapons at present. Why is there a incremental box for Reaper chansword??
is there ever going to be more knight weapons?
do they have to be separated?
(I haven't read the Chaos Index so I might not know what I'm talking about, but it look over-complicated at present)
I.e. if the CAN have two reaper chainswords, why not just have up//down selection boxes for each weapon that can possibly be selected more than once
then you don't need such a complicated weapon selection logic
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 13:55
oh good Grey Knights have different points for things that on Terminators and not...this should be fun
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:55
enjoy :+1:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:56
if you have a terminator category that should be pretty straight forward :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:56
I found the same with Craftworlds, did you know their chainswords cost 1, where SM chainswords don't
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:57
yay for storm guardians :D
maybe theyre not useless now
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 13:57
uhuh
well, they've never been useless, they've always been good for soaking fire
well, some fire
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 13:57
Chaos Knights are different to the Imperium ones in that there is 1 type of Knight and you can change up the weapon options. Allowing for example double gatling canons, which isn't possible for Imperium Knights.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:58
Reaper shouldn't be set up that way. The screenshots were after I rebuilt it quick and sorry to see if I could resolve, not finished product.
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 13:58
but I don't think it's possible to have 2 of the same melee weapon, just 1 of each
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 13:59
you could just do a single group for both arms and have it min2/max2
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 13:59
One arm is reaper chainsaws or options, the other gauntlet or options. My reason for setting up knight weapons as an entry group is for when FW knights get added, less duplication.
Basically I'll just shut up and do it with duplication as I really have no alternative
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:01
so, that's what I didn't understand, why not do it as @GenWilhelm suggested?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 14:04
Because as a single group with min max you can't set defaults.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:04
you can make thunderstrike and reaper separate shared selection entry groups, both including the Avenger, then you can set defaults and validate independantly
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 14:05
I'm not explaining things properly, it's a bad mental health day, and I'm just making my head more and more jumbled
There are other options than the avenger
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:05
then you just need a entry in the Knight itself as somewhere to link the groups into
yup, sorry if I'm not helping
(I am, honestly, trying to help :smile )
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 14:05
I did as little as possible to try and duplicate in case I had to start over again
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:06
well, from that point of view, at least you validated that this implementation doesn't work :smile:
well, doesn't work as expected
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:07
theres ways to have multiple defaults in a group that i've used plenty before
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 14:07
Don't sweat it, I'm just making myself feel worse and worse because this is something I shouldn't be struggling with.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 14:07
Yalp, just makes for extra fun ;)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 14:12
I can't hold myself to the same standard as I did before my illness. It just causes frustration
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:26
Lo chaps!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:26
don't stress, there's still a week and a half until official release, I know you'll get it fixed by then
hello @M4uler
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 14:26
ya we have so much time
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:27
you don't know how many more special rules there are for Eldar that I still have to type (I have roped in some help though)
seriously, I didn't anticipate it would take so long to get everything written up...
but whatever, it is making good progress, should be ready for a first run through by the end of the week (I hope!!)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:28
trust me, i did - which is why i want OCR lol
also why i was trying to farm the typing out to @Szeras lol
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:29
I had a brief chat with GenWilhem on the 8th test thread
I don't mind doing wound/degrade tables for MCs & vehicles for the files
'Nids are done already
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:31
that's all done for Craftworlds, literally all that needs to be done is to setup the weapons/wargear/ability links and type up the special rules. Then do the options and validation
@USSX-Hares is helping me - he did the Harlequin CAT
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:31
i think he was sayiong he has a sprcial way of doing it?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:31
by which he means switch from the generic Char1/Char2/Char3 tables we use atm, to specific M/BS/WS, etc. tables
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:31
saying*
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 14:31
righto
is that a thing?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:33
i'll commit the changes he did to the nids cat so people can take a look
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:33
Thanks Gen lol
Appreciated
The table for most vehicles (Astartes at least) is M/BS/A with a handful of changes
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:36
The table for most Ork vehicles is M/WS/A, or M/S/A. The Planes are M/BS/A
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:37
Aye
I was wondering if they could be added to the game system file but considering the spread of stats on the tables it's probably not worth it?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 14:38
We just having the profile in the specific categories or the GST? I wonder how many different combos there are
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:39
suggestion last night was for the most common ones to go in the GST and more specific ones be left to the CATs
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:40
For 'Nids alone there's 9
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:40
LOL
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:40
All MCs die differently, it seems lol
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:40
LOL
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:40
A nice tough tho
*touch
I'll look at the Tau tables and start there, can validate it for Bitjump too
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:42
yeah, the tyranid ones are just different combinations of M,WS,BS,S,A
with one unique one
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:42
traitors vs traitors today on twitch
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:43
Thanks for your work on the 'Nid one BTW Gen, nice one
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:43
well i'm gonna be using it a lot, so i wanted to make sure it was up to scratch :P
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:46
The best reason :D
K, the Tau are just M/BS/A except for the big Frenchman which is BS/S/A
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 14:46
has the twitch game ended or still going?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:47
hasn't started yet
talking to jervis right now.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:47
They are talking with Jervis
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 14:47
just over an hour isnt it?
till it starts i mean
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:47
something like that
the interview with jes yesterday was awesome
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 14:48
ah
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:48
Jervis has such a punchable voice, don't you think? Really fell like punching in the mouth would be quite satisfying.
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 14:48
do you know what time the game is supposed to start?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:48
feel
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 14:48
ohh i forgot about the game who is it today?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:49
5pm bst
dangles vs tsons
James
@skonk
Jun 06 2017 14:49
ah nice, ta
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:49
you know, traitor vs traitor
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 14:49
Jes Goodwin is great, we had chat with him about the Ad Mech robots at an open day last year
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:50
these interviews are the things 11yo me wishes existed 14 years ago
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 14:50
Aye, we caught up with Jes again on Saturday, a good chap
And Jervis - starting to look old now :/
I'm still gutted that Lord Chambers left
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 14:51
@tag8833 his voice isn't exactly pleasant, but he's such a wealth of knowlege
andy's looking older then jervis now lol
which still blows my mind because when i think of andy i thing of holkamania andy with the mullet >.<
hulkamania*
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 14:52
hah
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:52
Most of the GW people seem fairly nice. Some of them seem like idiots like Simon Grant. But Jervis always manages to make me angry. Every time I hear him speak, I'm reminded of his articles in WD where he used to scold people for playing the game in certain ways.
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 14:56
submarines coming to warhammer 40k u heard it here first
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 14:57
Chimera is no longer amphibious? What are we going to combat them with?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 14:57

We were talking with Jes about the Knights too and they originally had the extra variants planned for the first launch of knights but management wanted them released and the extra sprue wasn't quite ready so it got shelved.

Until a year later when they came knocking on his door after how successful the inital launch was

Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 15:01
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 15:02
yep
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 15:03
Lol at the talk around Jervis getting demoted. It is so funny to see him give side eye at Robin Cruddance like in the new youtube video.
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 15:03
and him saying he didn't play the game
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 15:04
He says it is important he doesn't play. If he played he would lose objectivity, and not be a good rules writer. LOL.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 15:04
but you need to play in order to properly understand balance
lots of things look good on paper, but are horrible in the game
and vice versa
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 15:05
I always go here for latest version of BS: BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#133
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 15:05
if in doubt, the about page tells you which build you have
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:07
I've never forgiven Cruddace for the 5th edition Nid abomination
I'm having to prepare myself to watch his interview with Jervis
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:14
i love how there are 3 of us BS devs in chat on twitch lol
me, @tag8833, and @defenstratus
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:15
i'm there
not subbed though
my current twitch prime sub expires on the 12th i think
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:15
@defenestratus i mean
don't think he's on gitter though
but i know he does BS data
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:16
:)
really annoying how you have to sub to chat & view the videos
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:17
i'm subbed because of amazon prime.
1 free sub lol
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:17
also funny that they won't say how many subs they have but you can kind of work it out from the number of Emotes they have
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 15:17
Me too. If I didn't have A-Prime I wouldn't sub
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:17
I'll be using my prime sub next week once it expires
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:18
in my best jeremy clarkson accent it it were't for amazon, i wouldn't be watching now
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:19
Lul
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:20
no lie, after bingeing TGT, i had to stop myself from pronouncing amazon like jezza does
"amizen"
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:20
:D
TGT was ok, it got a bit boring & over done torwards the end
I might re watch them actually, haven't watched them since they first aired
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:22
i thoroughly enjoyed them - celebrity brain crash was a little much but the american was funny especially because that's not how mike skinner is at all lol
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:23
I'm in :]
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 06 2017 15:23
i think some of the repeating jokes just got a bit too over done for me
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:25
I'm in the Twitch chat, I mean
lol
I'm not in Top Gear
Tau tables done, also added in a Markerlight Table entry
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:25
that's fair - i think they just need to find the ballance again
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:26
Not validated yet, shall I attach it as a .txt to a comment in the testing thread?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:26
@Thairne hey your Dangles are about to play with sons of tzeentch
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:46
Guys, minor thing - power rating is currently lists as PL and not PR in the same sys file
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 15:47
they're interchangeable in brb so we went with level
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 15:52
Righto, just not used to it lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 16:01
funny to see the chat about The Grand Tour, I feel exactly the same, some of it was awesome, some of it tedious and boring...
also, thanks for the head's up that Twich sub is available on Prime
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:01
oh yeah it's one of the coolest extras you get from amizen.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 16:01
I didn't know that so I'll get on it later :smile:
well, I'm a big fan of Prime music
the stations are pretty good
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:02
@M4uler, its probably best to submit changes to file as pull requests, so we can easily test them and see whats changed etc.
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 16:03
I'm using the AdMech catalog for my 8th game today thank you all for making this possible!
do see a few things i can correct later
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:03
you can thank the old man for that one :P
@thairne, you have a fan club already!
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 16:03
Old man?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 16:03
like Kastelans with three phosphor blasters only pay for two in catalog
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 16:04
@Thairne just doesn't like my pull requests :P
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:04
@GenWilhelm Cheers, gotta remember how proper github stuff works, it's been a long time
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:05
no worries, if you get lost just give any of us a shout :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:08
@Thairne has been oddly silent lately
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:09
he was in here last night nerding out over dark souls
but yeah, not much other than that
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 16:10
@alphalas would you mind looking at that PR (that is for the correct branches) so I don't make similar mistakes for GK tonight when I wrap them up?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:12
sure - might be a few till i do - still balls deep in some SoBs ;)
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:12
What's the deal with not being able to add .ZIP files to pull reqs?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:12
what are you trying to submit?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:12
git doesn't like anything but .cat files
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:12
So an uncompressed .cat should work?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:13
should
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:13
We don’t support that file type. Try again with a PNG, GIF, JPG, DOCX, PPTX, XLSX, TXT, PDF, or ZIP.
Says that for CAT, CATZ & ZIP(!) files
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:15
where are you trying to upload to?
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:18
Just the chat box in a pull req
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:18
ah, that's just the comment that goes on the PR
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:18
Ahhh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:19
can you create a req from here?
https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/upload/40k8eprep
hmmm, probably not actually. best bet would be creating your own fork, uploading them there, then creating a PR across from that fork
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:22

Uploads are disabled.

File uploads require push access to this repository.

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:22
thought that might be the case
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:22
Frustrating stuff - I work in tech but generally don't touch collab tools for devs like these
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:22
@Crowbar90 yay you're done BA lol
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:24
K, so new pull req - do I want master or head branch?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 16:25
the branch is 40k8eprep
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 16:29
@alphalas yeah, I wrote the second half of the catalog with a broken finger so I was even slower than usual lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:29
ouch lol
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 16:29
My right hand looks like a white power fist, and it's definitely unwieldy
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:29
well i'm glad you finished it - sorry about the finger
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 06 2017 16:29
Ow
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:30
lol i'm a hunt-and-peck typer, so my typing is always slow
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 16:30
Yeah well, thinking about it maybe punching the wall wasn't really the best thing to do, even though I was pretty angry :P
Guess I know for the next time anyway
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 16:31
lol fair
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 17:14
so i'm doing a test game on vassal - custodes vs clowns
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:41
Im still here, the old man does not leave so easily :P
This chat is so.. active though, can't keep up with all that chatter ;)
I hope my Dangels won crushingly!
And I was even not aware there is a request.. or that someone was working on AdMech? I never had to accept a Pull since.. well.. my files were genious :D
and still WIP, so don
*t even try to argue against that :P
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:43
@Thairne just helping out, it was a great start and there were only a couple not perfect things
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 06 2017 17:43
everything is WIP until June 17th
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:46
yeah the new format threw me for a loop sometimes
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:46
I'll look at the heavy phosphor blaster again, I thought I fixed that but it might have had something weird in the merge when I brought the other changes in...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:47
first cat is always the worst cat
but I accepted your request. Please do, it's hard to track what you did improve without a good tool.. that github app is beyond terrible.
its almost... HERETICAL
sorry. Had to.
about a third done with DA.. way bigger cat to work on. 2 more days or so and I'll have that one ready too (and to a higher standard I hope)
@axisofentropy report ALL the things! Now that the cat is mostly done, I can fix stuff quick
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:50
I tried to look at the comments that were in that pull request and I think those were all fixed by that pull request oddly enough...so yay?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 17:51
Excellent. With BA done, and DA nearly done, SM & SW can't be that far behind, hopefully.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:51
Ah, the datasmith one is still not fixed- will do that before getting back to GK
@tag8833 i should have GK done-ish tonight, too
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:52
I did a commit a few hours earlier that fixed some things from BSData/wh40k#3745
I think I caught the phosphor with that bug rep
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:52
@Thairne it got all but one edge case, yes :)
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 17:52
We've got 18 / 31 checked off so far. It would be sweet if we could have all that files ready for testing a week before the release.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:53
dont bother with the cyber, I'll fix it right on master quickly
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 17:54
ok, it was a pretty small fix, won't worry about a PR then
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 17:54
just a constraint that went stray
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:01
but already SEG and a lack of setting default options infuriates me again... why oh why can'T we do that yet!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 18:03
i thought that was fixed
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:03
well yes and no
you still cannot set a default by ways of modifier
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 18:04
ah yeah, that would be nice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 18:04
yeah that would be fantastic for 30k
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:06
and stuff like this is a bit annoying too
grafik.png
standard gear is bolt pistol, but you can choose from either pistols or melee weapons
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:17
Are we talking about setting multiple defaults in selection entry groups?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:18
defaults depending on a conditional, yes
or picking a default from nested SEG
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 18:19
I prefer to make those radio selections by creating share selection entry for each wargear item that is selectable, and then a Selection Entry group that contains those links.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:20
It would be nice to do that, yeah
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 18:20
image.png
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:21
image.png
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 18:21
Big Mek comes with a choppa, and can replace it with items from the Melee weapons list, items from the Shooty weapons list, or a Killsaw.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:21
That's how I'm selecting multiple defaults
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 18:21
yup, thats how ive done it too @Bitjump
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:22
I thankfully don't need to care about arm-dependant replacements
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:22
Yes that works
but its not a SEG. So if anything changes, you'll have to redo every single entry and add/remove stuff
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:22
Yeah.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:22
which is why SEG are, in theory, the best for that kind of stuff
besides, its good "coding style"
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 18:22
I settled with duplicates for now... I know it's the lazy way but if we could get those defaults it would become pretty clean
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:23
Yeah, I had to duplicate the default SEG for ranged weapons to do that
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:23
yeah I've been hovering my mouse creaitng a duplicate.. think I'll ahve to add that too although I do NOT like that
on the other hand, you can trade in a bolt pistol for a bolt pistol by going RAW
so....
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:23
It'd be nice to do it from modifiers or just a way to multidefault through nested SEGs
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 18:24
Yeah, it sounds silly but it's what I had to do
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:25
grafik.png
not that comfortable either since it's outside the radio button...
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 18:26
Yeuch
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:27
exactly...
maybe we can get Jon to do something about it..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 18:28
1 extra click to change the weapon, or an extra click to select the default on every instance?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 18:44
damned if you do, damned if you dont
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 19:13
OMG the Avatar can hide
he only has 8 wounds
3+ // 5++ // 5+++
I definitely need to finish mine
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 19:19
Yes @Thairne, it's the same horrible solution I used
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 19:31
GK HQ's finished...feels like half the army right there :P
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 19:33
Regarding #3756 - what is this PR? It's merging into 40k8eprep but it includes weird merge commits from last year regarding Chaos Daemons. Safe to just reject and close?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 06 2017 19:33
@tekton It is.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 20:53
Bam
Passed sec+
Eat it Comptia
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 20:53
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:53
nice!
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 20:53
Good stuff.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 20:53
top work!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 20:53
yey! Woo! Praise the Kohato!
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 20:53
congrats :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 20:54
776/900 but as many people have told me. A pass is a pass
Thanks all :) Such a load off my mind :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 20:57
@alphalas hows AM coming along? Friend of mine is getting skiddy :P (is skiddy a word? sounds appropriate tho!)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:57
i've been tied up by AS
if someone wants to do rules typing for AS i could probaby get it done in 30min
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 20:58
typing sucks balls.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:58
especially for a hunt-and-peck typist lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 20:58
In Germany we call that the "Adler-Suchtechnik"
you circle above the keyboard... spot it and ZONK down on the key!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:59
yup
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 20:59
then the circle begins with the mouse in your claws
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 20:59
Whats the standard for wargear selection in the 8th data, is is pile all onto each model and have the conditionals take care of it, or have a specific "heavy weapons" entry
choices.png
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:59
do a seperate entry
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 20:59
It's the latter
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 20:59
keeps conditionals simple
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:00
separate entries
there's a few ways tho
depending on how its best to implement
grafik.png
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 21:01
True, that spent about 2 hours working those conditionals out the other night, works on my private project, didn't want to bring it into the main repo's if its not the standard though, i'll stick to the latter, thanks
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:02
assault marines replace their gear, but never "outlast" the basic marine. So collective makes the roster easier to read and then have separate entries for validation purposes, its easier that way
Devastators simply add HEavy Weapons to their squad, so no validation for that required beside a max of 4
although I might switch those to the "marine with" for conformity reasons
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 21:07
The validation for the Canoness is nuts, because she can replace her bolt pistol with one set of weapons, her chainsword with another or either (so not both) with a third set, so the amount of cross referencing I had to do to get that to work...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:11
actually thats not that hard
Assault Sergeants from above can do that too..
THey come with pistol and chainsword
can replace their pistol with a pistol or melee weapon or their chainsword with a melee weapon
grafik.png
grafik.png
woops double post
@Kohato @GenWilhelm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M9ONL6BcbU I laughed my ass off now that I understand!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 21:14
@CloverFox are you just working on a local branch? because my cannoness is done.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 21:17
I was just comparing (I did the entire thing from a blank file and built from the ground up then realized i should be working off the branch, so started from scratch), yours is more elegant, mine used a conditional to change the minimum on the other options to 0 rather than hide it
I did notice though, that the (for example) heavy bolter has different points costs for different armies, I'm guessing the best thing to do is to create a new entry, link back to the one in the main gst file and set a points cost locally, otherwise any changes to the gst would cause unintended side effects in the cat files
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 06 2017 21:32
O, sagacious 40k BS maintainers, any thoughts on this? The horus-heresy team really needs a workaround.
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#158
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 21:32
Rage quit
/unhelpfulcomments
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 06 2017 21:37
@FarseerVeraenthis which comments?
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 21:38
is there a way to reference a specific comment to an issue in a commit message or can I just reference the issue?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 21:38
hahaha. sorry, trying to be funny... "the best workaround for the horus heresy team" <-- Rage Quit
(not very helpful)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 06 2017 21:39
oooh xD now I feel stupid :o
@Crowbar90 pretty sure you can
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 06 2017 21:39
@capitaladot have you deleted any categories?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 06 2017 21:40
just right-click on comment's date and copy link, it's permalink
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 06 2017 21:40
oh great!
thank you
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 21:47
mine doesn't actually work well however >.<
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 06 2017 21:52
@GenWilhelm nope. Our current pre 2.01 file triggers these unresolvable link validation errors.
@FarseerVeraenthis I suspect it will more so be people fleeing 8th for the Heresy as they did 7th. I play both, and look forward to trying 8th with my Yme-Loc.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 21:53
i just played a test game of 40k custodes vs harlequins - so much better.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:54
how's assault going?
THose electropriests are fucking expensive at 16 points a pop...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 21:58
image.png
what am i doing wrong? it's triggering max1s when it shouldn't be.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:58
remove shared
cause otherwise the same entry will be validated in entirety
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 21:59
oh, will that fix @cartag 's issue from earlier with his Knight weapons...?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 21:59
dunno, didnt read that one
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:00
and @capitaladot I was merely being childish, but yes, I imagine some people will want to stay in the "comfort" of 7th Ed rules for as long as possible, and if they want to stay current, that means they will be off to the heresy
@Thairne cartag was having trouble with weapon validation when using the same SEG twice on the same entry
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:01
sounds like shared does it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:01
so i un-ticking shared makes it work right, then happy days :-)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:01
i had the issue with max 1 on bolt pistols when I hate 2 EG that used bolt pistols... shared makes them combined for validatio
see? :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:02
uhuh
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:02
its nearly always correct to have shared active, but in this cases... nit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:02
obvious now :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:02
I was bummed out for a few minutes when I had validation errors too ^^
someone tell him, I don'T know if he'll read what I wrote
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:04
scrolls up to check what was sugested earlier
that wasn't suggested earlier so I messaged him directly to let him know :-)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:07
good. good.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:07
and now, back to fighting with Warlock Conclaves
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:08
thats what you get for meddling with vile xenos!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:09
yup
I repent
actually, I don't really
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:20
thats why repentance is not granted by mere words, but by action.
like bleeding out on a stone slab in the depths of the Rock
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 22:21
That action usually being a bolter round to the head
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 06 2017 22:21
thats how Dark Angels do.
see? This one gets it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:21
you've gotta catch me first
disappears into the webway
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 22:23
Oh jeez, Tau vs Khorne Daemons tomorrow on WHTV
I can't wait to see my poor li'l fish buddies chopped to pieces
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 22:24
I play Tau, GK, and AdMech - one of my main friends I play with has decided that Khorne is one of his main armies come 8th, not looking forward to that really with Tau or AdMech...
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 06 2017 22:24
What's AdM like this edition?
I've not had even the slightest glance at their stuff
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 22:25
I really like the test games I've played so far; being able to mix in Skitarii troops so easily has made it a ton of fun for me
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:32
@FarseerVeraenthis got the issue working. Unticking "Shared" on the constraint at group level resolved it. Thanks!
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and sorry to everybody since I was really off this morning
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:34
that's cool, I'm glad you got it fixed :smile: I knew there was a simple fix there somewhere
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:35
@capitaladot go into XML and delete the category entries by hand. IT's all in one section. Shoudl fix it.
It's because a category entry was changed, but BS has no support to link to them through the error text.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:35
Making sure all units have it unchecked before deleting will allow you to delete categories through the editor also
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:35
Yea.
That's what causes it initially
If you delete a category without unchecking it from a unit.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:36
^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:36
Sorry, was driving home from Sec+ or i'dve responded sooner
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:36
learned that the hard way when removing stuff from CSM to make TS file
how'd it go?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:36
PAssed :) 776/900
but as wise men have said, a pass is a pass.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:36
awesome man, high five!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:36
Thanks :)
It's definately a relief. I can go back to other things rather in my evenings now :p
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:38
like fapping
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:38
Exactly.
You know how much porn builds up in the 3 weeks i've been studying?
Also - if anyone finds any other necron stuff, use a new issue - It's annoying trying to keep a single subject in that progress thread.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 22:43
No idea, I've not waited that long
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 22:43
I added Imagifier, Hospitaller, Dialogus to adeptus ministorum, but my existing pull request hasn't been accepted yet, should i submit a new pull request or wait for the first one to be accepted (or rejected ofc)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:43
I think you can commit to that pull?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:43
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Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:43
hold off - i'm already to the retributors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:44
I'm not sure, I hate doing things the proper way with pulls and forks and shit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:44
why don't my guradians collect?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:44
HWP
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:44
actually @CloverFox how bout i commit what i have now, and you copy-paste your abilities into mine?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:44
The entire tree has to be collective.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:44
i've been skimping on typing lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:44
:sad:
:frowning:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:45
Actually no
It should work ...
Is Shuriken Catapult collective?
And Sunburst grenadfes?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:45
no, the Guardian defender is not collective
but there are no options...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:46
Yes there is
Shuriken Catapult
Sunburst grenades
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 22:46
@alphalas sure, i'll deal with the merge conflicts and figure out how to update that pull request
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:46
both of those also need to be collective
the HWP doesn't matter - It is implemented fine.
The Guardian Defender SE doesn't need to be collective
but the two entries linked into it have to be
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:47
@CloverFox no what i meant was openyour copy in editor, open my copy in editor, and actually physically copy-paste from one to the other
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:48
AHA!! you mean the actual shared entry for the weapons/wargear themselves :-)
fixed it :-)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 22:48
si.
And you may need to create dupliactes
to not conflict where you don't want to be collective
IE: Gauss Blaster (Collective) and Gauss Blaster
but that's only if that profile is used outside of a collective instance
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 22:49
actually, i think committing to my fork updated the pull request, I can see the commits on the pull request on the main repo
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:50
:+1:
still like i said if you manually copy-paste your stuff into mine it'll still work nicely - you'll just have to then commit that version of the file.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 22:51
Have you made changes to those entries?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 06 2017 22:53
right, that's fab, thanks for the help @Kohato I'll bear the collective/non-collective possible issue in mind for future, I knew it was something to do with that but I just couldn't figure it out...
anyway time for bed
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 22:55
break time for a bit for me...still have to figure out why one squad sin't increasing power rating correctly while all the others are ><
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 22:56
yeah i've been working through the index in order - working on dominions now.
it rough work so if you have them fleshed out you can finish mine off
tekton
@tekton
Jun 06 2017 22:56
All of the units and weapons for GK are in at least, now it's refinements to making to making squads/units at least
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 06 2017 22:59
I have all the abilities typed out, if you commit what you got i'll re-base and copy them in, if your at dominions you might want to reject my pull request cos i have Repentia, Penitent engines, Imagifier, Hospitaller, Dialogus all polished so that's gonna create a ton of conflicts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 06 2017 23:02
np, nite simon
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 06 2017 23:12
kk yeah if you can polish mine that'd be awesome.
committing
ok it's up.
like i said, stuff's rough though.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 06 2017 23:20
FML. Half hour of work, unsaved, and the storm knocks out power for two seconds.
It's a sign that Khorne doesn't take kindly to me putting noise marines in the CSM file