These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

16th
Jun 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 00:36
Are we going live after @amis92's freeze?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 01:16
@amis92 when you do the freeze, don't bother with fixing AM. I'll get it up after the freeze with all the fixes
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:17
I just got to shut down my first bug that isn't a bug
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 02:19
Just for my own curiosity, can someone tell me what Amadeusz is doing tonight with the freeze.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:21
I think he's killing what bugs are left that other maintainers haven't killed yet, locking down the repo, copying the branch to a new one, renaming the original, then naming the new repo wh40k
If I understand it correctly
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 02:22
So once he is done we'll be committing to master instead of a branch?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:22
In the new repo
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 02:24
OK.
Is he pushing the new repo to appspot?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:25
I would assume so, the only reason I can think of that he wouldn't is to wait a day until the official launch date
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 02:28
Also, kinda a stupid question, but Amadeusz is clearly a Repo Admin, is he the only one? Are you a Repo Admin?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:29
AFAIK he is, I don't want that kind of responsibility lol
I'm just a loudmouth who knows a lot about how to lay out stuff in BS
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 02:29
Sure, I don't think I do either. I was just kinda curious.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 02:29
and resident Khornate coder
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 02:58
I think maybe @efalsken might be admin, otherwise I think it's just @amis92
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 03:09
Can't wait to test it and help out
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 16 2017 03:20
has @USSX-Hares finished his ynnari copy pasta yet?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 03:21
there's been no commit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 05:20
I know he was working on it last night, it looked pretty much complete from the screen shot he showed me...
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:49
I was doing a last minute QA, and even when not embedded down in another detachment power level isn't increasing when adding models anymore- I swear I had that working. I also thought I saw someone say there was a bug with that?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 05:49
Desktop Alphas
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#166
Possibly?
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:50
I'm getting it when it's not in a child detachment
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 05:50
Oh no :o it's getting worse
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:51
I may have also done something wrong :P
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 05:51
Also @tekton any idea who "Veterans" are in Dark Angels? What are they called?
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:51
i play against two DA players, you'd think I'd know...
i don't remember off the top of my head to be honest
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 05:52
oh I think Company Veterans
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:54
that could do it heh
and i think i did break something...
or battlescribe got fixed and i as using a bug; either way i think i can get this working in the next minute
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 05:59
ok, keep me updated
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 05:59
it's working for one squad type and not the other; worst case i can fix them all and make a PR tomorrow
...i may have forgotten to check shared for GK strike squads after pointing them at the right thing to look for
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 06:05
couple minutes over, but that was my last fix for the night anyway
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:06
So GK Strike Squads are good?
tekton
@tekton
Jun 16 2017 06:06
they are now
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:07
Great. Pushing DA fixes now
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:18
@Toreador13 that was last of it for Drukharii from #3908 ?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 06:28
I'm on mobile, but I see there is a ynnarii branch... @amis92 could you check the Ynnarii CAT and if it looks ready pull it over into the main branch? I don't know if that's possible but I wonder if @USSX-Hares forgot to merge or something...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:28
I'll check
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:34
It doesn't look finished, the only commit he made mostly removed whatever there was and added nothing. Looks like Ynnari won't be g2g.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 06:35
:cry:
He was playing with python tools yesterday, and I think I remember you saying something to him about stripping them out when he loaded his harlequin cat... I don't know what I can do now
I've asked him to upload it ASAP but he might be at work already... That bums me out :worried:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:37
Only thing I remember saying was that if there's too little time to skip creating rules and profiles and do the usability/selection/cost thing.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 06:41
He was active at midday UK yesterday, he's in Russia, it's Friday, hopefully he'll be able to upload something by early afternoon... When you lock the repo will that prevent him from merging onto his branch?
Otherwise it'll have to wait for the proper release...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:42
Already did, and yes - but after I unlock after rename, it'll be a mess for everybody trying to work on old repo. Everybody must clone the new repo afresh.
So, he'll be better off just making a PR with that fixed file to the new repo.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 06:46
OK, that's cool, I feel bad but I don't know why, I told him the deadline and I know it was nearly done last night local for him. Who knows, it's only one Cat and it is the newest faction so I'm sure it won't be too much drama for the end users!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 06:47
And AFAI understand, you can still build legal lists for Ynnari 'cause we have their heroes and they can take Drukhari, Craftworlds and Harlequins from their respective cats anyway, right? Just the rules will be wrong.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 06:50
Yup, that's right, it's not perfect but it is free and works cleanly :+1:
barjed
@barjed
Jun 16 2017 06:59
Hey, Blood Angels' file has still a couple of errors, I think the issue should be reopened - I already reported them there
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 07:03
Has it been uploaded?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 07:10
@barjed please open new issue, do not comment on closed ones
barjed
@barjed
Jun 16 2017 07:23
all done
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 07:45
Looks like I don't have write access to the repo. Is everything ok?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 07:46
It's frozen. I'm cleaning up. Noone except me has write.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 07:47
Ok, I imagined it but I just wanted to be sure. I'll push the fix for #3926 as soon as I have access then!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 07:47
You'll probably have to re-do the fix. All IDs are changed.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 07:48
Oh ok. It's small stuff anyway, so no big deal.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 07:54
@amis92 can you rename Dark Angels to Imperium - Dark Angels? I'd like to prevent that from causing a duplicate file after the release.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 07:55
already did
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 07:55
:+1:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 07:55
I think I'm done - can anyone take a quick look at current 40k8eprep branch? Clone, check anything works?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 08:00
no errors trying to create rosters, everything v1
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 08:03
Yeah everything looks ok and I was able to merge my latest commits.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:10
@Crowbar90 can you send me the file after merge? I'd already include it in initial commit
or do you have it on your fork somewhere?
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 08:13
i have it on a local branch, but if you want to put it in the initial commit there is no problem for me.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:13
yeah I'd like to
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 08:14
uploading it here
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:15
thx
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 08:23
Has it been uploaded? To what url
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:25
patience
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 08:26
Ok
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 08:28
hehehe! I know army builder released their 8th Ed update a while ago, but we're going to wait until closer to the "official" release date before we go live :wink:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:31
So! We've got new repo live, old is renamed. You can find old repo here: https://github.com/BSData/wh40k-7th-edition - that link is also in readme in new repo.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 08:31
although, if the initial commit releases to appspot we should be live on Master in a couple of hours because it looks like @amis92 has flicked the switch
fabulous
!!!
party time then
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:32
Now to tick Jon to refresh appspot manually and everyone can be happy.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 08:39
does that mean that if we were to use github to update from master it would replace all the files in the folder with the new ones? and as such, could people make edits by branching/forking the master as before??
(is the repo back open again??_
)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:41
nope, it's closed. Git will crash if you try to update old repo. You should delete the old one and clone afresh the new.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 08:46
:+1:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 08:57
Ok guys, that's it from me - there is currently a new core team that has write access: https://github.com/orgs/BSData/teams/data-admins-wh40k/members They can add collaborators to give them write access, but for now these guys are the ones responsible for merging pull requests - and it's the only way to contribute.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 16 2017 09:03
Ok, good news. Might be slower than it was, but surely it gives better control over everything.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:05
and we have our first issue too... isn't that nice
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:07
Yeah, that issue should be escalated to include every other catalogue be checked - I know for sure there was some formatting in Mechanicus for example.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 09:08
yep
canticles
grafik.png
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:15
righto, so, when I get home, open my data folders delete everything, then open github and clone afresh... correct??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 09:16
jup
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:19
:+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:26
the Keepers Wiki is gone
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:26
not moved over yet
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:28
:+1:
also, I think you might have killed appspot
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:30
did I...
works for me
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 09:32
Trying to find it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:35
if you search "Battlescribe Data Files" on google, you get a link to the page that normally has a list of all the different types of files for different systems <-- this page currently has a header talking about v1.15 files and nothing else except a lot of blank space...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 09:36
works for me... short "getting data files" then stuff appears
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:36
nah, that happens all the time
it sometimes just doesn't load, try another browser, another card etc.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:36
:+1: that's cool, at work we have IE, that's it
works on Firefox
MrRta1910
@MrRta1910
Jun 16 2017 09:38
It says last update was the 30th of may
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:39
Yeah, we have to wait till appspot refreshed cache. Might be up to 8 hours now.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:39
yeah, it's not updated itself just yet
^
:smile:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 09:46
Yey I's considered core members group dudesmen!
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 16 2017 09:46
Nice :D
Thank you for all your hard work, @amis92
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:48
Haha - thank you all for your hard work - I've been mainly watching you work ;) Now I've just clicked few things into place and prepared another workground for you guys :shipit:
and #1's closed! :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:57
fabulous, and yes, thank you for the work on the Repo @amis92 !!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 09:58
I'm gunna try to get another hour or two of sleep, then I'll work on fixing AM. I'm thinking with the amount of bugs there are I'll clone the new repo, copy the current am file away from the git folder, upload the original stripped down version I had, manually change GST link in xml, re-clone, fix any broken links (it's so stripped down there shouldn't be any ;)), then add in completed stuff from the (bug laden file) and fix bugs as I go ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 09:59
"simple as that"
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 09:59
I think you can copy this comment in to the issue #6 so that people know it's in progress
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:00
also, we have new labels, very flashy, I assume that the UX in "Request - View UX Enhancement" means User Experience - yes?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 10:03
@amis92 will do
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 10:13
@FarseerVeraenthis it does, yes. That's the "style" and what will be visible for users in Roster Editor and in Roster View
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 10:30
Weird I can't copy-paste from Gitter on iOS
Whatever
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:46
on the appspot website the Repo update dates have updated
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 10:47
Well, it's official then: we're live!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:47
just, to replicate a "typical" user I just opened BS on my phone and hit "update data"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 10:47
Nice :)
Didn't Jon say he fixed line breaks in things?
I can't remember
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 10:47
Not yet
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 10:47
Ah ok
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 10:48
@FarseerVeraenthis and how did it go? :O
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:48
perfectly I think
I seem to have 8th Ed data, and the Aeldari list seems to work without drama so far
when I click to create a new roster it asks me to select a game system, if I press 7th ed, it seems to crash
but if I choose 8th it is lightning fast compared to how it used to be :-)
so that's good
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 10:51
I'm sure that's in small part to the repo size being a fraction of what it was
lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:51
I'm just going for a delete and re-download
yup, that fixed it, now I don't get the option for 7th and it is flashy and fast
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 10:52
Nice
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 10:52
(and craftworld eldar is the top of the list :+1: :smile:)
stacked detachments seem to validate nicely
so that all seems pretty fluffy to me
:cat:
do we need to put up an announcement about how to create multi-faction lists??
or did we do that already but I'm being blind?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 16 2017 10:56
Nope - might be useful. If you'd like to write it up, go ahead.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 10:57
Just joined to say congrats guys! ... I'm not at home to install it yet but saw it on appspot and just had to come over say thanks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:03
Amis, you're done yea?
We're free to commit again?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 11:04

@Kohato

Ok guys, that's it from me - there is currently a new core team that has write access: https://github.com/orgs/BSData/teams/data-admins-wh40k/members They can add collaborators to give them write access, but for now these guys are the ones responsible for merging pull requests - and it's the only way to contribute.

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:04
?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 11:04
you'll also need to clone the repo again
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:04
I know, I'm on that team ;)
I'm just making sure he's done before I commit
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 11:05
that was from Amis a few hour ago
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:05
Ah I see, "That's it from me"
cool, typo changes in GST a go!
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 11:05
yeah the quote feature in gitter let me down there
:(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:11
Oye, PL question for you guys
Destroyers - it says that each destroyer in the unit is +3PL, and that a single Heavy Destroyer can replace a destroyer if there are 3 or more.
Heavy destroyers are normally 4PL
in this case, the heavy destroyer would still be 3PL yea?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:14
I don't think so...
the destroyer datasheet says Destroyers add +3 PL, it actually doesn't say how much PL is added if you add a Heavy Destroyer...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:15
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Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:15
since they have their own datasheet, surely they should add 4PL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:15
image.png
Yea, that's what I'm not clear on :/
since it doesn't say
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:15
oh, sorry...
that would be a heavy destroyer as a "captain" upgrade
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:16
I'm assuming that you add the 3rd Destroyer as 3PL
then upgrade to a heavy for free
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:16
"take the place of"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:16
the 4PL is only for a heavy support slot unit of Heavy Destroyers
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:16
uhuh
yup, now I read that properly I agree
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:16
Cool, just getting a 2nd opinon before I make the changes
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:17
"take the place of" is the same wording as in the Aeldari Craftworlds CAT for Aspect Warriors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:17
Ahh cool
glad there's actually some unity between factions for rules lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:18
hehehehe! If only there was a "Slightly Less Heavy Destroyer" then it would be obvious it's an upgrade
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:25
oh and @sk_Father_Price_twitter thanks for the props!!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 11:28
you should setup a GoFundMe ... for a beer fund or something :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 11:29
I've been thinking of a Patreon
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:29
Yea, but then you're obligated.
I rather like being able to tell the public to fuck off if they want something stupid.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:30
hehehehe! also, if GW really wanted to get difficult they could go legal and it would be wores if we were seen to be profiting from their IP
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:30
or, if trends hold from 7th, are simply being stupid (Cough Cough Chaos Legions Cough Cough)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 11:30
I want free "Slightly Less Heavy Destroyer" !! ... go on, tell a man of the cloth what you just said ! ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:30
(but I appreciate the offer :+1: )
hehehehehehe
dear User, please be advised that the "Slightly Less Heavy Destroyer" is currently unavailable
speaking of Chaos legions... #7
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 11:32
Can't repliacte on desktop for that one.
champion looks fine to me
image.png
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:34
heheheh :grin:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 11:44
#7 <-- I have plenty of wargear options for my champion on Android... not sure about the Heavy Weapon / Special Weapon choices since I don't have the datasheet but, kinda silly
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 11:55
he's also at 2.00.
I THINK that MIGHT matter..
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 11:59
surely not? </sarcasm>
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:01
should we ask him which file version he's using??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:02
since 2.00 cannot process categories...
correct me when I am wrong, but that means he's outdated in files and bs version.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:03
Hah
I'll take respond
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:04
hopefully Jon fixes the catalogues not being sorted soon
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 12:06
Hi all. Can someone upgrade me to a dev and I can start fixing the Drukhari issues I reported in #5
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:06
Omg, Amis
The new tags on issues
I love them
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:06
How're we handling issues?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:06
you can create a Pull Request and we can then merge it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:07
@ilaunchbury feel free to correct and submit a pull request. We're no longer handing out contributor access like candy.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:07
Letting the main maintainer do it or assigning & fixing ?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 12:07
ok, will do
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:08
If it's quick bug fix or typo stuff, I've never minded anyone fixing things.
actual changes or new unit adds, Leave that to maintainer so that it can be implemented in line with everything else format wise.
Then again, don't just take a random user's issue for truth
7/10 times they have no clue what they are talking about.
(Totally legit stat)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:09
and being generous.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 12:09
:)
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:09
;)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:09
just took a look at #9
legit bug, going to do a PR now, see if i can remember how to do it :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:09
Sm is obviously missing all named characters! Amirite?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:09
Haha
Those were my favorite bugs
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:10
Getting my first game of 8th in today, not played since 6th. New rule set seems good.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:10
"No, you're just a dumbass"
8th is fun
Definately some changes to my armies i' need to get used to
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 12:10
@Entropy1986_twitter, I played a demo a couple of weeks ago at UKGE. It felt a lot faster to me.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:11
8th is fast and fun!
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:11
So glad bscribe was there though, brand new faction too. Helps so much
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:11
haven't found my niche in tau and necrons yet.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:11
niche is removing models from the table.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:11
I thought 20 warriors flanked by a ghost ark
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:11
I like that niche for xenos.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:11
but that wasn't it.
hah
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:11
C'Tan Shenanigans is where it's at
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:11
Yea, I'm thinking my main army will have 2 c'tans.
I really liked the new deceiver re-deploy
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:11
just thinking about the basic rules.. I think horde armies might fare best
multiwounds do not slip over
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:12
I think you're right
Which sucks for me.
I hate blob
with a passion
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:12
go ahead bring a 30 man blob of orks, I'll anti matter meteor the lot and roll all sixes for mortal wounds ! ... /probably
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 16 2017 12:12
tell me about it. Deathwing 4 life.
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:12
Liking nids so far, scored first blood turn one. Have lost my warlord though
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:12
Nids got good
Flyrants nerfed
but not toooo terribly
swarmlord and Genestealers though
holy fuck
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 12:13
flyrants were always going to get nerfed :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:13
Riptides and stormsurges got nerfed to high hell.
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:13
I got a melee fly rant, swarm Lord and 2 25 term blobs with tervigon.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:13
@Kohato but still Monsters .. Whut ?
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:14
I'm either not doing alot. Or removing a squad at a time. Not much in between
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:14
Deathmarks in necrons are really nice.
I need more of those
with all the deep strike in 8th they're huge to come in and pop off some models that drop in
Riptide was underwhelming for how many points it is now honestly @sk_Father_Price_twitter
properly equipped, near 400.
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:15
Girlyman is probably the only reason the marines weren't crippled 2nd turn.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:17
@Kohato true dat, you just gave me reason to build the last ten deathmarks though .. completely overlooked auto deepstrike and their intercept
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:17
Oh yea. I tried them yesterday proxy
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:17
@Kohato , #11 <-- someone wants to play Datasheet tag
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:18
It's huge
Haha
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:18
It's been a while but i think i did the PR correctly :D
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 12:19
I forsee many tears, I shall drink them like sacrament
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jun 16 2017 12:21
Anyone else having issues with the latest BS for iOS not showing unit profiles in the roster view?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:21
don't have ready access to iOS i'm afraid
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jun 16 2017 12:25
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Same roster works fine on desktop, with same output options.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:26
@penguin20000 I confirmed your merge, because I'm a cavalier and I decdied it was simple enough and @bitjump probably hasn't got to hear about it all yet
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:26
:+1:
looking at the SW one now while i'm on lunch break. I'll also check the SM cat as i literally coppied the vehicles from there
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:27
@francoisbeaulieu I think @alphalas had that issue last night
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jun 16 2017 12:28
I wonder if he already brought it up to Jon?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:30
I'm not certain, no error was referenced in the discussion earlier (you'll have to scroll back up the thread to find it)
so I can't say for certain
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jun 16 2017 12:30
:thumbsup:
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:45
Somehow between my last update and now a ton of CSM units aren't stacking like they should.
fun times.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 12:45
:(
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:45
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Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:46
There are a bunch of SW units that don't have collective triggering properly
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 12:46
i noticed it doing that yesterday but assumed it was to fix the issue someone had posted about the CSM champs
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:47
motherfucker... ok, whoever added a secondary listing for bolt pistols changed the original collective one to not collective and kept the new one as collective
I get to change a ton of units now...
So thank you to whoever it was that adjusted it without warning. I appreciate the extra surprise work upon waking up.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:50
@Gnofry the best thing would be to make an issue for it.
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:52
I believe it is in an issue from a few days back, but I mentioned it again hoping it could be solved at the same time as the Chaos one.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:53
@Gnofry if the units all have bolt pistols, it could be the same issue I'm facing now, they were linked to a collective in the GST, then somebody made a new one and changed the original to not collective
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:53
@cartag They are bolt pistol units
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 12:54
that's not cool
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:54
I will check who all has problems in the SW codex and make an issue
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:54
Double check all your units then that have bolt pistols. I'm already adjusting mine
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:54
what unit SW? i did the SW cat and don't recall an issue being raised
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:54
@penguin20000 there wasn't with CSM either until I downloaded from new repo today
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:54
Namely Grey Hunters and Blood Claws
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:55
Swap collective from one to the other cartag
Then we'll have only one cat to fix for it
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 12:55
a few of the SW units weren't collective because they can all take special weapons. (to be honest i could've probably done it better in the first place)
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:55
Actually
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:55
Which will then fuck up anybody else's who changed it from one to the other, thus continuing the cycle
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:55
Nevermind, it triggers properly
It was an issue I mentioned in some big writeup
In 8th prep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 12:56
Should only be one since it happened last night.
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 12:56
But it looks like you fixed it.
So SW is fine mechanically
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 12:58
fuck it, I've got more important shit to do today... I'll find out later if the GST gets swapped back. I can't deal with it right now.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 12:59
Has the change actually broke it?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:00
@penguin20000 since you're the maintainer for SW I merged your pull. in future if you include "Closes #12" for example in your PR it will automatically close the issue at the same time
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 13:00
Everything that linked to a collective bolt pistol in the GST was changed to not collective and any unit that linked to it doesn't stack now, leading to uber long rosters
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 13:00
ah
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:00
ha, actually, I could also have included that in my confirmation of the merge...
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:00
@FarseerVeraenthis i forgot about the # 's :D
cheers
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:01
right, put the GST back
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:01
Screenshot_20170616-085013.png
Different topic: currently BS on Android/IOS doesn't show profiles or rules in the roster viewer. However, it seems that the issue is with this particular data release. I made a personal catalog off of the 8th prep GST and that functions on mobile properly
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:01
it is likely to solve many more problems than it causes
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:01
:+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:02
erm, @Gnofry roster viewer works straight off the appspot repo for me on android
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:03
out of interest did we decide how we're doing the Imperial FW units in the end?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:04
well, there have been no leaks of the FW indexes so it's difficult to tell atm
I assume they will be incorporated into their parent CAT
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:04
Are we going to take advantage of the new multi force validation or add the units into all the individual files like 7th
I have the Imperial One on pre order & just ordered the Xenos
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:07
I would suggest adding them into the parent CAT, then it is easy for the user to find them
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:08
@FarseerVeraenthis It seems a little inconsistent. I don't see either, @cartag and @alphalas can't see inline profiles
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:08
also, since child forces ae slightly bugged atm it would avoid those calculation issues
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:08
The last few comments here https://gitter.im/BattleScribe/BattleScribe
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:09
Yup, shame Jon never managed to implement the idea of being able to share/link to a cat from another
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:10
There are also a number of people here who got the new data and now have issues with the roster viewer: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/6hlno6/battlescribe_40k_8th_edition_has_gone_gold_i/
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:12
@Gnofry what's the issue exactly?
i'm confused
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:13
@penguin20000 Roster veiwer doesn't show profiles on IOS, or Profiles/Rules on Android
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 13:13
profiles & rules are showing on my android
strange
I did do a full delete of all data though
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 13:13
android is working great. Just IOS
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 13:14
I will check to see if that is the issue
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:16
I too deleted all my data prior to viewing a roster
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:24
did that fix it?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 16 2017 13:24
@/all is someone working on a write-up for multiple faction detachments? It would be nice to have a guide in the GitHub, and post it on Reddit for people
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:26
it would be nice, but I think it needs screenshots and I'm not able to do those atm
so I agree it is needed, but I can't do it right now...
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 16 2017 13:27
Same here.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 13:27
I'm leaving for work for the next 8 hours
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:51
I'll do it when I get home later tonight
then I can devote some time to doing it thoroughly
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 13:58
@ilaunchbury I see your PR, I know there was a discussion about uploading the final version of the file prior to the repo swap, and I'm not sure what state @Toreador13 's files are, so I'll leave him to do the merge
@Le-Sir I also see your PR, put I'm definitely going to leave that for @alphalas since goodness knws where his files will be when he has finished copying and pasting and updating them...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 13:59
nw
There are still about half-a-dozen more issues to fix which need actual thinking
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 14:00
hehehehe that's cool
the idea behind limiting who can pull and merge is to reduce people copying over other people's work... so it would be rash of me to just pull it in when it is not my CAT...
(as much as I appreciate the quick work fixing the bug)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jun 16 2017 14:10
given the hassle someone changing the Astartes cat seems to have caused, I don't blame you!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 14:11
I've been burned before for working on other people's CAT's by "trying to help" and doing the opposite
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:16
Hey guys, thought I'd drop in and say congrats on going live.
Also apologize for some shithead deciding it would be a good idea to push my alternate in the same thread....
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:19
i saw that, made me chuckle
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 14:20
@WindstormSCR he's getting downboated into oblivion now :) but on his almost valid point, how you getting on with your mobile version ? .. cough Necrons /cough
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 16 2017 14:21
Link for laughs?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 14:21
<Rant> How do people function? I let my 40K group know BS 8th ed files are live, and now I'm being carpet bombed by messages with people who think they found errors, but "Can't figure out how to make an account to report it on Github"</Rant>
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:21

Annoys me more than a little, but what can you do.

Actually everything but chaos is done, I'm currently trying to figure out how the hell to do the switch logic for the traitor legions

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:22
I did run into a curious update issue for mobile you guys might want to know about: if someone pulled an update link while on 2.01, then refreshes with 2.01.01, the index gets "stuck" and needs to be removed then re-added
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:22
@tag8833 some people are complete idiots, link them to the site & use the anon bug reporter i guess?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:25
I also don't think there is one, but perhaps you guys might know a way to 'force increment' a selection based on a different one without using the collective flag (specifically the deathwing terminator entry in the mobile files)
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 14:26
Most of the errors are BS. "I can't ADD an Iknight to my blood angel Patrol detachment"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:26
You can't wind. You can increment min and max
It collective would be the only way to auto select and increment.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:27
I figured as much, which is what I'm currently doing. I did feature request it at least
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:27
That would be a really nice feature
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:28
Omg I just realized
Next iOS version
Native file management
That will be so much easier to test cats on mobile
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:29
I hadn't been paying attention, for real?
neat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:29
Yea. I just put that together. That'll be nice.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:32
I'm actually hoping once I can talk to amis and get the mobile version to a more mature state (more than barebones at least) that perhaps there are some things that can be shared between the two projects, like standard assumptions for weirdness. I just don't want people flooding you guys with bug reports when they're not even using this version
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:32
Oh I hope they do
I haven't had stupid people to berate lately.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:33
lol!
Le-Sir
@Le-Sir
Jun 16 2017 14:33
Is there an easy way to synchronize my forked repository with the original?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:33
You can tell, my background is in customer service :p
Delete and refork
I never got the hang of git fu. So I refork when I do fork work
Or just delete my local repo and re download.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:35
@francoisbeaulieu yeah I mentioned it to @Jonskichov in the BS Gitter - it's iOS only
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:36
Can just disable categories in the options and it works
It yea. I'd rather categories be fixed lol
Le-Sir
@Le-Sir
Jun 16 2017 14:36
So every time the original repository is changed I have to redownload the whole thing? That doesn't sound right.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:37
I'm sure you can re sync
I think you can just click sync on the git app
Dunno. I do it the old fashioned way
Commits to master files
With copious backups
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:38
you could probably copy the files and do a merge, but that might get messy depending on what you chainged
....I have been typing chainsword and chainaxe waaaay too much the last 3 days
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:38
you can add two remotes, pull from the main one and push to your fork
That's what i'm doing at least. seems to be working currently
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:39
Why wind?
Shared entry in your gst
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:40
differing points values for some items across factions, also its the easiest way to pull it out of the entry link list instead of scrolling
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:40
Shared entry. Modify points. :)
Less lines overall.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:41
I tried that, it kept breaking, probably an error on my part but I gave up on it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:41
Ahh
If you ever want to try again let me know. I'm sure we could get it banged out. At least enough for you to carry on.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:43
I might try and fix it again before I do profile work, right now I'm not as concerned since I'm still just doing unit names and points/selection logic
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:43
@Le-Sir don't worry about it - I need to completely rewrite the cat because the way m4uler set up squads was goofy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:44
Push you're goofy
Pish
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:44
@Kohato can you please explain multi-detachments to #10?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:44
Tonight yea.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:45
I am goofy but that's besides the point
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:45
GitHub blocked at work
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:45
Cause there's no bug there; it's set up like the index ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:45
Haha
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:46
Can't you do one of your glorious reply-from-emails? Or have you stopped getting the emails?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:46
Where did we fall on profiles vs rules?
Oh I suppose that does work
I'll do that
Tau is mostly rules instead of profiles. I can get to work on swapping that.
If we decided in profiles.
On*
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:47
Everything but the shared faction rules are supposed to be profiles
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:47
I think you did, that was one of the major reasons I ended up sticking with my own version, since it takes up a huge amount of space on mobile between unit blocks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:47
Yet another issue with AM - everything is rules
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:47
Alright. I'll take over tau and start swapping tonight.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:47
you mean besides the massive powercreep? ;P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:48
Meh guard needed that lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:48
I've gotten absolutely blown out all 3 games vs them so far
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:48
Hey. Look at nids and then talk to me about power creep
Holy shit are nids scary now
Meanwhile I haven't found my stride with new tau and necrons. :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:49
My friend's had some good success with tau, running lots of marker drones
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:49
Yea? Suit lists or blob
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:50
mostly suits, he was/is a farsight player, but more crisis than riptides and other heavies
flamer crisis are great for hordes, since you don't even need target locks on them
he's raving about stealth suits and ghostkeels though, so that's where the new hotness lies apparently
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:51
Double-flamers plasma or double-burst flamers seem to be two really good loadouts now
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:52
Regarding Profile vs Rules i think Jon might be looking at adding an option to the output to get the rules to output like profiles
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:53
When I played him he was running double weapons and a single support system per guy, the main squads were dual-burst and dual-flamers mixed, and a dual-plasma squad, fwiw
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:53
Well until he does we do profiles;)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:54
Yep, well if he's going to do that change soon (like the next week) it's probably not worth changing existing stuff
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:55
I use to run double-burst flamers and firekinfe+ until I gave in and built a ton of double-missile suits
Think I might go back to double-burst flamer
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:55
i started to run double cyclic ions for a while
those things destroyed
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:56
Still gunna keep my fireknife+ suits though. They're still pretty good
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:56
espcially with buffmander
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:56
I'm Raven Guard and Grey Knights, so the 9" drops and fall back really was a kick in the nads, but one that was needed since Kauyon RG could be incredibly oppressive
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:56
Do we know when the FW Epubs are out? is it tomorrow?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 14:56
I toyed with that - but finding the old CIB bits was a bitch - I don't like the new CIB
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:57
i got 3rd party CIB's
i forget the company name
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 14:57
I'm liking airburst now too
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:57
I've been that busy doing thw SW cat i've not read the new rules or the Tau catalogue
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:58
I feel for you
Space wolves were a bitch to do with the odd-man out wolf guard
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 14:59
the million HQ's and their rules is crazy
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 14:59
I haven't even done rules yet, just the selection logic, and even that mde me give up and do the WGPLs on a sublayer
they're the only thing that I've done in sublayer in the entire mobile files aside from some things in old marines that will get replaced
I even managed to do deathwatch kill teams on a single layer, so that's saying something, and it's nothing good
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:01
Which one was I answering alpha
20?
Nvm. 10
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:02
The FW epubs should be downloaded after 12pm tonight
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:02
nice
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:02
just the 2 that were pre-order from last weekend tho
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:02
how much are they selling the epub indexes for
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:02
£12.99
In an unusual turn of events (for FW anyway), the FW and GW indexes are all the same price
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:03
not bad, I did my astartes in physical but I think I'll do digital for the xenos one
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:03
and the epubs are slightly cheaper than printed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:03
I finally started myself an eldar jetbike army now that I don't have to feel like a gorgonzola vendor for liking/playing them
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:03
:)
I'm interested to see what FW have done with the Dreadlcaw
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:04
Lol
It was funny at the Warhammer Fest 40k Tourney
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:04
Dreadclaw efen
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:04
You never had to feel cheesy for jet bikes
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:04
Literally every other table had Eldar Jetbikes & a Wraithknight
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:05
As long as you didn't spam poopie
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:05
I'm curious to see the rules for the stormeagle, I have two for HH and from my playtests so far flying transports are going to be a big deal
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:05
By poopie I mean scat
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:05
some even had Jetbikes & WraithKnight vs Jetbikes & WraithKnights
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:05
I preferred shuricannons anyway, which in a turn up for the books are now the better choice, and I get to laugh at the people that told me shining spears were going to be shit forever
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 15:06
Either way, footdar ftw
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:07
wave serpents are now the best grav-tank, so even foot-dar works quite well
the missile launcher is no slouch on those
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:10
@windstormscr depending on how FW did the 8e update for stuff, I foresee a lot of 30k players getting jelly
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:10
The 30k guys are already moaning they can't use their armies in 8ed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:11
they should have used more magnets. I play both and the same dudes work fine because I magnetized everything that wasn't cross compatible
though some of the moaning is justified at least in part because in most clubs 30k is a small subset of players, so the cross compatibility helped them get games in
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:12
I think it was mainly because they could just use the same rules against 30k armies, but now HH is staying on 7th they've all moaning
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:13
Well out of all 30k players, like 20% are the Ryan Kimmels who were "if 30k goes 8e, I'm out"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:13
well, the vocal ones are moaning, I just made comment to forgeworld and that's the best I can do aside from deal with it constructively
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:13
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:14
But they're a very vocal minority; and also mostly 40k exodites
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:14
helps I have a permissive playgroup that don't care if I use combi-weapons on my tartaros terminators which is the only real non-compatible thing besides corax
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:15
Trust me I play both and I'm sad my current BA lists for 30k didn't get upgraded- my playstyles all got big boosts lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:16
I can confirm that the FW mk IV shoulderpads do fit on intercessors and hellblasters
used some of my spares on the DI box
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:21
Nice
I'm toying with down the road doing primaris BA
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:23
I wasn't originally going to get a box, but after reading the novel, Inceptors and orbital-drop tanks speak too heavily to my RG taste
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 15:23
I got rid of 90% of my non-BA special MKVI/VII armor, so I'm not rebuying regular BA tacs- but I might be willing to get primaris
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:34
so, just checking I have this right, but the traitor legions don't actively prohibit you from taking other stuff with them in the same detachment, they just allow you to use the specials as troops with no real downsides??
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:36
Yup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:36
Yep
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:36
The downside is that Lords and such who have Auras, the auras only work on the same Legion units as they are
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:36
That's my one gripe with 8th really
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:36
And i think transports have to match the legion of the units in them
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:36
Traitor and codex marines lost flavor
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:36
i seem to remember seeing it mention <legion> in the transport capacity
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 15:37
Hopefully codex brings a bit of that back
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 15:38
yeh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:42
There's also some really odd omissions in places
like dreads from drop pods
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 15:42
@WindstormSCR That is just to sell more lucious pattern pods
And forgeworld books
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:43
except FW doesn't sell them currently
the mould broke
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:43
The Dread Pod hasn't been on their site for a while now
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:43
and they have no idea when they'll be remaking it as a new sculpt
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 15:43
I know. Super annoying that. I got some 3rd party pods that I actually like better than the FW ones.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:43
the current advice from FW is "Use the plastic pod"
oh well, at least the FW pod rules are in index IA:A
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 15:44
I'll bet they weren't selling that many because of their nutty price point, and they will "fix the mold" now that it is the only way for a dread to travel.
Honestly, I've played against dozens of Lucious pods, and I've never seen a real FW model.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 15:45
Can the storm raven still carry them? or did they remove that too
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 15:46
I only have one Lucius pod, and it's sole purpose in life is to deliver Murderfang
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:46
Stormraven can
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 15:46
It's really been less than cool not having it...but I have I:IA pre-ordered too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 15:47
I think fliers in general will see more use now that they're not "turn 2 or later" machines
and won't be stupidly oppressive because they're not full snap shots anymore
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 16:29
@FarseerVeraenthis I managed to fix my roster issue on Android. I had to desynch from drop box, delete all data, then reinstall the app. Probably some local issue.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 16:49
Damn assassins are nicer in 8th
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 16:49
They are
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 16:49
Just made a fun list. Knight errant. Errand. Crusader. Each asaassin. Celestine.
1998 points
Fuckif I know how well it will work
Should be fun
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 16:50
Vindicare can get work done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 16:50
Shooting heavy after moving helps him immensely
And culexus is still bonkers
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 16:52
They're also really cheap. It's nuts
Peter Zaitcev / [USSX] Hares
@USSX-Hares
Jun 16 2017 17:09
I have denied access to new repo
I've done the merged Ynnari catalog
Who can grant me access?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 17:16
Just put up a pull request
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 17:23
We're not giving access to anyone and everyone for direct commit. Helps keep a bit of content control.
Peter Zaitcev / [USSX] Hares
@USSX-Hares
Jun 16 2017 17:26
Ah, ok
Peter Zaitcev / [USSX] Hares
@USSX-Hares
Jun 16 2017 17:33
Opened pull request
#56
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 17:36
Mergwd
Merged even..
Peter Zaitcev / [USSX] Hares
@USSX-Hares
Jun 16 2017 17:36
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 17:37
Cool ta, I'll look at it when I'm on my computer later
People aren't backwards in posting bugs are they, blimey!
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 17:45
That's a good thing though
Rather than moaning about it
I've been posting the issue link in places
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 17:47
There is that...
Also, Autarch, Forceshield, does he have to pay points for it or not? Had two bugs already so far...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 17:48
wargear you pay for; abilities you dont
it was nice of GW to give them the same name though /s
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 17:50
Who can take a Forceshield as an option though?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 17:51
can wraithblades?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 17:51
So why does it need a point value?
Hmmm, possibly...
I'll have to look on my PC later
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 17:54
yeah, wraithblades can take one with a ghostaxe
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 18:06
yup, you're right...
I best go and update the CAT and reply to some issues I've just closed...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:07
Why can't all the other HQs be as easy to do as the chaos lord entries
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:22
Anyone getting the IA indecies?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 18:22
Got the chaos ordered in print
not sure if it will come tomorrow or not tho
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 18:23
I'm getting the Astartes one in print
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:23
I'll have a hardcopy of the loyalist astartes and digital of the xenos one when that drops
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:23
*ePubs, to clarify
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 18:23
I suspect people who buy the digital copies will be able to DL them just after midnight tonight
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:23
because shadow spectres hype
(I fully expect them to be shit again, but I can hope)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:24
Midnight Britain time yes
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 18:24
I need to pick the Xenos one up too cos i have some remora drones for my tau
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:24
Which is 7 local for me
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 18:25
Dang it I'm so jelly I should have ordered the digital version
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:25
That's how GW always does digital
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 18:26
Not too late to get both...!
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 18:26
they will get shared in no time
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:26
But reason I ask is I have a DB that would love to have someone upload to it lol
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 18:26
i prefer to buy the physical ones but i wont buy em twice so i'll "acquire" the epubs later
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:26
For the greater good and all that lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 18:26
I can't run my Sevrin <3 Celestine list until I get the I:IA
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:27
sounds like the title of that list should be "none purer"
I'm hoping for updated breacher manlet wargear rules so my HH breachers don't feel left out
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:30
I just wish destroyers were a thing in 40k
I got 40 jump destroyers lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:30
they technically are: vanguard vets
you can double pistol with them
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:31
Hmm good point
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:31
but yeah, loss of counterattack and the launcher sucks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:31
Expensive af though lol
I never use the launcher lol
IX legion - if I don't have infernus in everything I'm doing it wrong lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:32
I have 5 destrroyers and a siegebreaker that are my phosphex crew, painted as OG ravens, on the siege breaker's breakcher shield is "corax's displeasure"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:32
Just like asscans lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 18:32
Yeah my Wolves losing counter-charge really sucks
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:32
the combo of breacher shield and destroyer counterattack is nasty, remove enemy charge bonus, gain your own
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 16 2017 18:32
Losing +1 attacks on the charge does too LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:33
yeah... I'm surprised they didn't add those extra attacks into the base profile of some units
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 18:35
Destroyers exist
In xenos 1
:p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:36
if I could port 1 unit over to 40k wholesale it would probably be the better terminator options list complete with legion specifics.
having tartaros/cata only available to vanilla marines is meh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:37
^this
Or the better contemptors
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:38
better contemptors are in index IA
'relic' contemptors
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:42
True
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:42
Forget everything else, I just want to play with that sweet sweet looking glaive
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:43
which is that again?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:43
Is it sad I'm thinking about getting a razer naga chroma and just programming the numpad on it to be a numpad?
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:43
Its a vulkite Fellblade
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:43
oh, thatthing
the falchion is scarier
TL volcano cannon with shock pulse (or likely a similar effect)
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:44
It actually will have 40k rules
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:44
which if you look at the shadowsword entry equates to "Just pick up the model Jim, It's Dead"
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:45
It is listed in the Index, but the glaive is not :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:45
that's because FW goes off the deep end anytime someone mentions porting volkite to 40k
I'd expect to see it in Fires of Cyraxus if anywhere
Since that will be the "Volkite comes to 40k" book
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:48
Didn't they announce that a year ago? Is it never coming?
Pushed back by 8th?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:48
From what they said at warhammer fest and other events, it'll be the first book for 8th
they didn't see the point in releasing just to be invalidated
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:50
That and Bligh had cancer
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 18:54
That would do it. It is really eerie and rather heart breaking to see all of his online presence still hosted
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 18:55
Yeah
Like I'm pretty sure HH staying 7e for now is because Bligh had cancer and everyone was like oh fuck
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 18:58
one of the WH fest rumors (not verified) is that they kept it 7th because bligh had a framework done for 7th for making stuff people could follow but never got to complete the frame for 8th
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 18:59
lol Jon
You don't have to program it
It just does that.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:01
Oh I thought it was like my g510 where the programmables don't do shit until you assign
That also sounds reasonable
Which can still be summed up to he had cancer and everyone else went shit lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:02
I just realized defilers might actually see play again
because vehicle splitfire
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:03
Yup
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 19:03
Land Raiders are actually good
Like the Godhammer is actually good
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:04
Venerable LRs are crazy good
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:04
yeah, I have 3 magnetized ones I'll be shoveling full of GKTs
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 19:04
I had to go buy one because I didn't have one
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:04
the deathwatch landraider kit was great while it was out, all 3 options on one kit
got 3, and the FW inquisition doors
then the magic of magnets
I think the poor redeemer won't see too much use now though
the number of shots the crusader puts out and the higher transport cap pretty much obviate it
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 19:08
And it is the cheapest
By like 60 points
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:09
I could see the redeemer be good with fast assault armies
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 19:09
I just don't think the D6 hits will be high enough damage output for the points
2D6
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:10
the rend is okay-ish, but I see most groups measuring from the weapons still
it gets slightly better if you "go full 8e" and measure from the ramp, but that just feels silly
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 19:11
stick a dozer blade on for an extra inch of range! /s
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:12
I did see something that gave me quite a laugh though: one guy at my FLGS has about 15 drop pods for various imperial armies (HH and 40k) and used the new precision deep strike effect to pretty much wall off his opponent into a corner just to see if it could be done
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 19:13
I hope they've done something neat with Dreadclaw pods
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:14
they'll probably have the flyer keyword and be able to move about, same as 7th
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 19:14
yeh
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 19:14
But will they be a consistent hover mode flyer like the heldrake?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 19:15
If they keep with the 7th theme then they will have a way to deal damage as they pass over things
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 19:28
btw, just wrote a little multi-faction "how to" #77 anything I need to add??
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 19:30
im just wondering if we need to change the name of the child forces, so its obvious what's going on
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:31
Mine would break doing that with SM I think, but might be fixable by changing the switch scope
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:32
@FarseerVeraenthis I'll do some iOS screencaps for you to add
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:33
@FarseerVeraenthis what scope minimum would it need to be to create the switch effect (I currently use selections in force and all child forces)
example: set hidden to true if equal to 0 selections in force and all child forces of Black Legion
nevermind, I think I'd have to rebuild my basic structure using the category links
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 19:36
while you're there @alphalas, could you do me a favour?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:36
yeah... I think I'm just going to put a label: You want imperial Soup? use the desktop version
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:36
What's up @GenWilhelm?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 19:37
on iOS, how much do adrenal glands cost on MONSTERS (eg. Carnifexes)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:37
It's actually easy on iOS surprisingly
Eine moment
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:37
I was reffering to the mobile-format files I've been building, not the app version
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:38
Ah ok
5pp on mine @GenWilhelm - but I also haven't synced to the new appspot yet
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:39
I built mine before category links were a thing, I might need a hand re-engineering my backend for that effect when someone can spare the time (if they want to)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 16 2017 19:40
havent edited nids in a while, so it should be up to date
thanks for that though :)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 16 2017 19:41
I love #29 @Kohato
  • #28
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:43
lol
someone doesn't know how to read thier book
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 19:43
Of course they don't
Do you not remember half the faq questions from Facebook last year?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 19:44
I tried to forget
especially the ones responsible for making deathwatch even worse
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 19:45
So many questions where people just hadn't even read their dex
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 16 2017 19:58
right, that's the duplicate Ynnari CAT's taken care of...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 19:58
:+1:
Once I get home I'll start slogging through AM
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 20:16
Just whittled some lascanons out of plastic tube and converted my dark vengeance helbrutes :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 20:52
there we go just got rid of like 11 bugs by rolling them into #6
hopefully that's all of them and the rest are dupes.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 20:56
heh heh, was just adding to the SW issue and when I came back 11 issues had up and disappeared. So that's what happened!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 20:57
yup - i'd rather just have one rep to work out of then flipping through 6 million.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 21:01
Although six million would be more Astra Militarum-ish, I guess :tongue:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:01
that is fair lol
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:02
I'll look at the SW one tmw if no one beats me too it
i need to turn the email notifications off though, my poor inbox & phone are going nuts
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:03
The SW one is like changing a single point cost
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:03
yup
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:04
Which is pretty impressive
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:05
Was about to head to bed soon, too many late nights this week catching up. Man i'm getting old
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 21:06
Nope, add choice of melee weapons to one model, adjust points on a model and set chainsword as standard choice on yet another. That's all in the same unit. If that is all it'd still be nice though :)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:06
Yeah, i'll be amazed myself the SW cat is the first one i've ever done. Up until now i've only tinkered with the odd bits
I want to work on the usability of it though, make it less clicks/taps do do stuff
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:07
I think personally the only thing I would change is that I would make some of the units Collective
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:08
yeah
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 21:08
Just wait until you've got the index, it'll be so much nicer to check your data with a book in your hand instead of going back and forth to some blurry scans.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 21:08
I managed to grab the high-res scans if you need a better reference (except for chaos)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:08
i have 47 bugs to fix lol
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:08
yup, early next week. Down side of ordering from 3rd party web sites :(
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 21:09
Not me, but thanks. I'm more of an Aeldari guy, just checked something for a friend of mine who is a SW through and through.
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:11
I will perform some validation on the SW, I got my imperium 1 index early
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:11
Nice :)
There's no local flgs near me really & the one i ordered from didn't ship until today/tomorrow
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:13
I have really a unicorn 5 minutes away from me
70ish semi-active players in a league
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:13
between our 2 local shops in my area we have maybe 40 active players
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:14
Has anyone spotted anything in the core rules that specifies if all firing models have to be in range to fire or if just a model from the unit has to be in range? The only thing I can find simply says "a model in the unit must be in range" or something to that effect.
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:15
You check weapon range per model
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:15
i haven't even read the core rules yet :(
at this point i'll just wait for the official pdf/my print copy
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:15
@Gnofry where in the book does it say this? (page number)
range.PNG
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:17
Yes
A model from the targeted unit
So to target an enemy unit
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:17
which implies if 1 model is in range, they are all in range
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:18
A model from the enemy unit must be within weapon range
the a model refers to the enemy unit
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jun 16 2017 21:18
No, it implies if one model is in range that unit is a valid target to shoot at at all.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:18
I would say each model in the firing unit needs measuring seperately
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:18
what i cant find is anything that then says you can only apply wounds if the model is in range
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 21:18
another key point to make, with multi-splitfire weapons are fired individually, so only one of thier models has to be in range, all of yours do
and if you were playing non-fast dice that model would die before resolving other weapons
the clause that specified all weapons of the same type shoot at the same time is gone
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:19
You are not limited to applying wounds to models in range
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:19
alright step 1 of the AM apocalypse is complete lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 21:20
you can explicitly apply wounds to models out of range and LoS, because the owner of the target unit chooses the unfortunate sod in the target unit
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:20
yeh
thats what i thought
the downside is that it could be a bugger for some of the blog armies
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:20
can someone that has access assign #30 to me? i'll take a look tmw
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:20
blob^
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:21
can't self assign issues any more
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 16 2017 21:21
Potential RAW interpretation of that: if one model at the back of a unit has a different gun they're out of range with, but a model at the front without said weapon is in range, does that mean they can then fire legally?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:21
you're assigned
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:21
cheers
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 21:21
no
range is measured individually by strict RAW
its the target that doesn't have the problem, not the firer
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:22
@penguin20000 that's because @amis92 hasn't added you to the new data admins list yet
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:22
yeh in the image above it says within range of the weapon being used
so from the firers perspective, every weapon has to be in range of atleast 1 model
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 16 2017 21:22
so if plasmagun guy at the back can hit the guardsman in the front, the guardsman strung out 24" behind the front guardsman can take the hit
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:22
@alphalas i was added (i had the email) then removed. But it's cool i've not been around long
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:22
so untill he does any changes you make will have to be pull reqs
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:23
Did a few PR's today already :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:23
yes - he deleted a lot of people in the freeze - i'm sure you can get re-added
oh thank god nothing broke in step 1 lol
fuck yes it did.
hang on
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:29
reverting a commit before 2 others will revert all 3, right?
fuck no it wont.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 16 2017 21:31
Have you pushed them?
If not you can undo commits
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:32
i did the bonehead move on master >.<
anyone not sync'd since i did it?
if so plz upload your copy of am.
Daniel Mudd
@btjmp
Jun 16 2017 21:32
wait, can you not just make a combined revert commit?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:32
its not totally borked - it just screwed my plans lol
don't worry about rolling back - i just need a copy from before i did my delete lol
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:34
I have the catz, but not the cat
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:34
that's fine.
i can save as cat
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:35
guard, not ministorum correct
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:35
correct.
astra millitarum.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:35
dankeschoen!
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:35
That is it from 5:10pm
So like 13minutes before you updated
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:36
bueno
thank's @Gnofry you're a peach
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:37
It looks like we are very lucky
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:37
well even with what i did i didn't break anything.
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:37
It seems I grabbed it like 4 minutes before you committed
So just good timing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:38
people's lists sure, but not anything super-important
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 21:38
Well, whatever saves you the most work
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:38
indeed
that was the issue lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:48
so what i want to know is who in their right mind thinks it's a good idea to just snip off the heads of SOBs, and crapily glue on marine helmets?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:56
Sounds like a plan if you want marines with boobs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 21:57
more like if you want bobbleheads
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 21:57
heh
If they were "inventing" space marines today (i mean as in for the game, not like... REAL ones) then I'm pretty sure they would have had male and female SM's
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:00
Did the GST rollback for Bolt Pistol collective choices happen?
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 22:01
I am still seeing 5 copies of Chaos Space Marine in my roster, so I would say now
no
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:01
Great.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:04
#27
I imagine we'll see a lot of those.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:04
probably
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:04
was just reading that on for a lol
one
@Kohato I just raised 89, I saw you grab it real quick .. i'm dicking around on here for a bit if you want me break it more
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:07
Nah, I know the issue
It was a pull I accepted while I Was building it and forgot to double check it.
Already fixed.
Oh you mean try to break other things
go break as much as you can. I can fix it :)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:09
in a similar vein.. add two squads of lychguard and swap one squad back and forth with swords / scythes ... the other squad bugs out weirdly
goes from radio buttons .. to +/- qty arrows .. and then back to radio buttons with a third <NONE. option
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:11
Yea, same dealio there
I accepted a merge to help, and didn't pay attention.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:13
@Kohato and praetorians do the same weapon swap dance ... is it one parent issue to rule them all or individual instances?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:14
the cause? the same.
The merge I did had collective where it shouldn't be.
Leave it as 89
No need for another bug report, i've gotten it all fixed.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:14
ok, I'll stop and look for other stuff then :)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:19
9 bugs killed today.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:21
@cartag I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say KILL EM ALLL!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:21
The Only good bug is a dead bug.
Would you like to know more?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:22
@Kohato picky little thing ... but ... in the powers of the C'tan .. I think you missed a break ? ... powers you wish the C'tan Shard to have.<br/> <br/> 1) Antimatter Meteor<br/> 2) Time's Arrow<br/> 3) Seismic Assault
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:22
BS bug.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 16 2017 22:22
@alphalas its really hard to clip off SoB heads, annoying cos i have about 30 to do, worth it in the end imo http://imgur.com/2nfU9DQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:22
BS has a hard time reading line breaks right now.
Nothing I can do about it :/
Other than remove the breaks entirely and then have to go back and put them back in once the bug is fixed.
#90, that's a good point. It'd be a single instance of tendrils I think
It's uselss to have 2.
They do the same exact thing ....
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:26
They do, but it's worded as two magma cutters or two lasher tendrils.
The price per magma cutter is 16, the price per lasher tendrils is 12
per set of lasher tendrils
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:27
Isn't it, "Replace both Magma Cutters with Lasher Tendrils"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:27
same for Two Gauss Blasters etc ... 9 points per
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:27
and then the wargear entry is "Lasher Tendrils"
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:27
that's how it was
wait
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:28
Both magma cutters for Lasher Tendrills
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:28
I'm thinking it's unclear, tbh. In the 6th book, it referred to them as a pair of lasher tendrils
meaning that they are individual things
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:29
Yea, back then it made sense to have 2, you have 2 CC weapons, for the extra attack.
But now, you just make D6 extra attacks
there is no benefit to have 2 pieces of wargear for LAsher Tendrils.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:29
Maulfiend Fists and Lasher Tendrils are written as plural but are a single item
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:29
You can never take just one
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:29
ok @CloverFox that makes sense.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:29
Magma Cutter is singular
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:29
you cannot bring one lasher tendrils
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:29
this though doesn't.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:29
errr, one lasher tendrils
tendril
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:30
Yea I know, I mean that I think it's saying replace both cutters with "Lasher Tendrils" being 1 instance of it.
but that one instance is both sides.
murky as shit
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:30
It reads to me like you would pay for 2 magma cutters and 1 "lasher tendrills"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:30
literally all they did was snip the head off (often at an angle), not remove the neck, and just snip the neck off a marine helmet and glue it on.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:30
I read it the same
two for one swap
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:30
but based on context of the weapon
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:31
and pay for 1 "Maulerfiend Fists" if they have a cost
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:31
I'd guess at one instance vs two.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:31
probably same as helstrike for 2 multi-rocket pods on valk
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:31
Definately not clear though.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:31
the fists definitely needs adjusted
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:31
because there the profile name is hellstrike misslieS
@cloverfox you have a sauce for those heads?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:33
fuck it, I'm just changing it, I don't care that much
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:33
last query before I hit the hay and dream of Dark Imperiums :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:33
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
image.png
That's what it looks like in the editor now :(
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:33
is it a BS thing where you don't get a "Duplicate" menu option for sub units ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:33
So, it's a BS bug.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 16 2017 22:34
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:34
aye, anything like that is BS, not the data.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:34
The only reason it was done that way at all was because in 6E book (and yes, I am fully aware that means jack fucking shit) the replacement is worded as "May replace both magma cutters with two sets of lasher tendrils"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:34
@Kohato suits me .. I mean if thats the worst I can find on day one mate ... then Brewski time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:34
makes sense to me.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 16 2017 22:34
I've been listening to Miniwargaming today while I work. They keep saying "incester" Marines. It makes me laugh.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:34
@CloverFox oh wow and they're cheap to boot.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:35
@sk_Father_Price_twitter I like to think i'm good at this by now, but honestly Necron cat is cake. I don't imagine i'll be in v10 for a while.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:35
Yeah, Necrons choice for today ... "Hmmm Gauss or Tesla" ..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:35
Yea pretty much
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:35
not exactly rocket science
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:35
Lychguard still dont' have a choice.
It's sword and board.
all day, errry day
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:36
3++ or go home
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:36
and praetorians ... why aren't you taking more lychguard.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:36
@tag8833 yeh i watched that lastnight
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:36
I used to like Deepstrik mishapping 10 Praets into oblivion ... made me weep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:36
Haha
Now it's deathmarks
10 of them, byebye any non-named character you want.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:37
yeah but then they get to sit 12" away from the stuff thats drooling at them with no get outta jail free card ... /gulp
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:37
That's what the lychguard are for.
Walking out of a monolith
that just dropped on their backlines.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:38
stop it ! ... my porn doesn't arrive til monday !
I mean rule book
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:38
hahah
If you somehow haven't seen it yet.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:39
I paid for sat delivery
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 22:39
My FW book ships tomorrow
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:39
Same
but im hoping they actually did it today
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:39
Thanks yeah I saved all the leaks to my DB asap
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:40
Those 6 pdfs are the only reason we're ready before tomorrow.
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:40
not sure how FW do it but when i ordered the limited editions of wrath of magnus and traitors hate they didnt send a dispatch note till saturday but had actually dispatched it friday
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:40
Those came early and were really good quality
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:40
But all the GW stuff i ordered from goblingaming.co.uk and it was dispatched today
so will have it tomorrow
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:41
Element gaming here ... saw their twitter today with rooms full of boxes
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:42
I spoke to goblin on the phone today and they were having a nightmare, GW had sent them half the stock a day late
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:42
eeep
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:42
they'd been working yesterday till gone 10pm and then from 6am this morning
GW dont help, they put pre-orders up for new nurgle
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:42
I can't even begin to imagine being in logistics at GW right now
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:42
and the a week later, put up preorders for a previously un announced nurgle paint
so people have been ordering the paint and asking for it to be added to the previous weeks pre-order so as not to pay postage again
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:43
well, serves 'em right for being heretics
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 22:43
lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:44
@Kohato you're welcome for the pdf's lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:44
Haha
yea, thanks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 22:44
can you imagine if we had to stick with the imgur galleries?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 22:44
Well we couldn't
they got taken down in 3 days
lol
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 22:45
Oh, I have the full images if they were necessary
but a little late for that
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 16 2017 22:54
alt
guess I'm not getting up for posty tomorrow ..
night fellas and congrats on getting it out before launch
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:05
WHTV is live on fb
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:05
watching it now :)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:07
ditto
is it just me, or is GW trying pretty damn hard on the social media front to do a polar opposite from the file purge that happened years ago
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:08
so tempted to waste another 13 quid and get the epub chaos fw book
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:08
embracing the community insteaad of ostracizing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:08
they really are
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:08
They massivly stepped up their game about a year ago
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:08
You totally should, and send me a copy
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:09
what i like about this "new" GW
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:09
it's all the new CEO. He's done a LOT to build goodwill toward the company
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:09
if you do i'll give you upload rights to my DB
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:09
all this community stuff adds value to their products
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:09
I wish they'd do a epub of all the White Dwarf paint splatters
that would be such a good value... I'd pay for it
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:10
yeh
the problem with me buying this chaos epub is that i already bought the hard copy
but i will also need the xenos book
so i should really, if i was gonna buy an epub, should get the xenos one
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:11
yeah, but if you do get the Chaos one I could get it added in that much sooner
And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds, but this is the hobby we live in lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:11
it really is
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:15
bought it
have it in fact
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:15
what's your email?
i'm literally gunna send you the invite tyo my DB lol
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:18
transfering to my ipad so i can look at it first :)
lets see if they fucked the dreadclaw up
and wtf that hellwright was
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:19
lol
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:20
Dark Mechanicus
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:20
I'm dying to find out what my blood slaughterers do now :D
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:20
confirmed
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:20
FUCK YES
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:20
its a warpsmith in effect
faction keywords tho has..."<Legion> or Dark Mechanicus"
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:21
hmmm
I just realized I should probably rename the CSM file to "Chaos - Heretic Astartes"
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:22
ooh yeh
why the fuck did none of us think of that?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:22
I did, just not after we did the prefix
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:22
Dreadclaw is a Heldrake style skimmer it seems
15 inch move
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:22
cool
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:23
can hold terminators
not sure if it could in 7th
the 7th version was VERY limited in what it could take
actually i remember, was only CSM and Chosen
this can hold almost anything now
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:23
I thought it was any infantry, wasn't it?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:24
infantry, brutes and contemptors
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:24
yup
just loaded it up
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:24
my anything i meant as in the 7th ed one coulnt transport things like berserkers
which would have made it useful
my = by
lol it has a pistol
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:25
it can transport zerkers though
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:25
Thermal Jets - Pistol....
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:25
image.png
the Brass Scorpion has pistols too :D
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:25
ah
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:26
was only dedicated transport for those two, could carry any infantry though
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:26
d6 auto hits against friend or foe
yeh
but that meant running a cad
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:27
Or running an allied detachment
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:27
yeh
er
no
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:27
I'm a Khorne player, KDK plus CSM AD works
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:27
cant use an allied detachment if its the same faction as your primary detachment
ah yeh
i didnt play KDK
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:27
the gorepack was amazing
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:28
ok so its not cheap, 10 pl so thats a fair few points
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:28
2-4 bikers, 1-4 Khorne dogs. It was brutal
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:28
has a -2 ap 2 damage melee weapon
4 attacks
4+ ws
and an auto hitting pistol
10 wounds tho so it gets a damage table
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 23:29
10 pl
that's 230~ points normally
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:29
200ish I'd say
most estimates I'm figuring are 18.5-20 points/PL
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:29
i'll have to mull this one over a bit, not sure if it seems that good
has a 5+ heal if it kills something in melee
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:30
Any idea where "June 17/2017" is measured from?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:30
stream is on now if thats what u mean
started 30 mins ago
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:30
I meant more the warhammer digital stuff
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:30
now
june 17 BST
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:31
yeh i have the FW chaos book right now
looking at it as we speak
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:31
so aka a half hour ago
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:31
and he's not sharing! :P
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:31
That would be the answer to my question!
I tried triggering it with a proxy, but it didn't work earlier
I got the imperium 1
Any requests?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:32
gimme your email and i'll add you to my DB so you can upload it :0
:) *
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:32
gnofry@gmail.com is acceptable
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:32
I think I need to get a link to your db as well
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:33
Hellforged stuff then, for each model they kill in melee you can roll a D6 and on a 5+ you get a wound back
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:33
link or upload @cartag?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:33
just a link
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:33
a good round of combat and a good roll after could put a dreadnaught back to full wounds
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:33
are Hellforged a faction keyword?
errr, is?
wait, for each model they kill?
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:34
its a Keyword
not a faction
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:34
ah
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:34
its like how the Daemonforge stuff got Infernal Regeneration
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:34
@Gnofry email sent
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:34
Hellforged seems to have Mechina Malifica
which is a heal based on melee kills
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:34
nice
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:34
but with the potential to heal many wounds in one go
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:35
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 16 2017 23:36
@Gnofry upload to the 8e subfolder
por favor
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:36
gracias :)
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:41
Should be uploading now
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:41
and downloaded
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:47
I'm just a bit worried about if they stuck a digital watermark in there tied to my account
happy to screenshot the fuck out of it tho
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:48
I promise I won't share it
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:50
FW just has to complicate the FNP issue with void shields
This is an invulnerable save that can be taken against mortal wounds
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:51
That's what Disgustingly Resilient is
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:51
Except its taken in place of an armor save
Not in addition to
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:51
Yes it is
Each time a Nurgle Daemon with this ability loses a wound, roll a D6 - On a 5+ the model does not lose a wound
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:52
No, I meant void shields
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:52
oh
I see what you're meaning now
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:52
It is literally an invulnerable save that works against mortal wounds as well
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:54
Screenshotted every page
at ipad retina res
i'll either make a PDF or zip em and you can all have em
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:54
PDF works
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:55
epub is shit on pc anyway
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:55
gracias! :D
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:55
never found anything to open em right
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:55
but it isn't on iPad
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:55
Azardi works
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:55
yeh ipad its great but so is pdf :)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:55
Adobe Digital Editions isn't that bad
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:55
digital editions has never opened them right for me
Gnofry
@Gnofry
Jun 16 2017 23:55
Azardi works perfectly, it just is restricted to one page at a time for some reason
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:56
ah
ill try ot
it^
2017-06-17 00.49.10.png
sample image :)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:58
:+1:
I wonder if #bolds that

:+1:

damn, not bigger.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 23:58
^(+1)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 16 2017 23:58

failedhashtagmodifications

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 16 2017 23:58
^:+1:
James
@skonk
Jun 16 2017 23:58
lol