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20th
Jun 2017
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 00:00
@flakpanda I am really afraid we are going to see copious Detachment bans in 40k tourneys.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 00:00
There's a limitation in the rulebook on number of detachments that can be brought at certain points levels
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 00:01
What I mean to say, is bans of many or most Detachments but the most basic.
Sort of the retaliation from the "we loved 5th edition, fuck superheavies and flyers" set.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 00:04
Only a matter of time until it's boiled down to "One patrol detachment, one HQ, max points 150, one troop, max cost 150."
and nothing else
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 00:07
Fuckers.
You would think they would just play Shadow War and be happy.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 20 2017 00:25
i know @capitaladot. even the BRB suggests 2 or 3 for 2k. just trowing around ideas until i see list comp rules
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 20 2017 00:25
Tournament organizers are more likely to change other parts of 8th edition like the pre-game stuff: who chooses deployment zone, who gets first turn. some may limit Lord of War or Titanic units but most won't.
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 00:26
I wish they could just leave things the fuck alone. Sure, we probably need a FAQ to sort out the gaping holes in the new edition caused by jettisoning all of the history from 3rd-7th, but just let 'em play, you know?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 00:40
I think detachment limits are a reasonable route given how flexible things are if you have no limits, but I'd say at least 4 minimum at 2k
what with forts and LoW requiring thier own detachments
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 00:40
Here's to having my sixth first date in a row cancelled. Cheers boys. :beer:
And I see more a restriction on how many rather than what they contain
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 00:42
so let's say for the sake of argument you're doing Imp Fists. 1 fortification, 1 Super heavy aux for a spartan (assuming FW fixes the relic retardation in the super-heavy slot), then your batallion detach for main force
@cartag that sucks.
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 00:44
Perhaps since the holy and blessed lord of NoVA was involved in playtesting (and a sanctimonious dick about people leaking), we won't get another "1999+1, almost all Fortifications banned situation.
There are times I miss dating... This is not one of those times. Bummer, man.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 00:48
There are reasons I don't even try to date... This is the constant story. Every few months I try, and I'm reminded why I don't.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 00:57
@capitaladot care to elaborate on that for those of us that don't follow the tournament circuit?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:33
Hey @Thairne raptor went and killed the HW + THSS/LC fun in the cat
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:36
uh oh, did I screw up again?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:38
@Thairne was vehemently arguing that RAW you can do THSS/LC + HW - and remember, we follow strict RAW
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:39
RAW?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:40
Rules as Written
oops
which is this argument?
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:40
THSS Thunder Hammer Storm Shield?
LC?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:40
Yup
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:40
HW?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:40
Lightning claw
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:40
lightning claw, heavy weapon
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:41
ahh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:41
@alphalas which entry is under contention?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:41
It's the a Deathwing termie and heavy weapons
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:41
I didn't kill it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:41
several of the terminators entries have had wierdness going on
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:41
i dont think lemme check
LC and THSS force you to toss all other weapons
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:42
He trades his SB/PF for the cc stuff - then may take a HE
Hw*
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:42
but as written you are forced to take a HW with storm bolter and Fist
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:42
And before any of you cite the deathwatch FAQ from last edition remember that is last edition
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:42
you've been able to do that on deathwing for a long time, you can TH/SS and cyclone
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 01:43
But the Asscan and HF are in the same list too
The cyclone was separate back then
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:43
then you could take those too, but good luck meeting the WYISWYG requirements
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:44
I just added restriction when you take THSS cause those were missing
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:44
Strict RAW you can take any of the heavy weapons with TH/SS on deathwing
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:44
and LC
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:45
modelwise I think someone would only use that to take cyclones
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:45
i dont think so
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:45
which funny enough are the best terminator heavy option now
I'm looking at the entry
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:45
verbatim, "Any model may replace all of its weapons..."
"... with two lightning claws or a thinder hammer and storm shield"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:46
its a separate line, and there is nothing about needing to replace existing weapons in the terminator heavy weapons, and then you get into order of operations, where the TH/SS and LC would be first
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:46
It says all weapons on the model
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:46
then you can go back and look at years of precedent, which still matter because of GW making sure to not invaliate old models
this argument was had last edition with deathwatch terminators which had the exact same wording, and they can take TH/SS and heavies
Different argument: We as maintainers are not the final arbiters of RAW, and where there is a heavily debated grey area, leave both options open
since it is likely that files are serving multiple groups with very different opinions on the matter
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:48
well that makes sense
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:49
and since in this case there are arguments to be made both directions, leave it open until it gets FAQ'd
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:50
Makes sense, is there any documentation regarding order of operations for wargear options?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 01:51
many old threads for deathwatch and SM command squads, but those are 7th and can't be entirely relied on. the result is ambiguity until GW makes a statement wether it applies or not to 8th edition datasheets
in the case of both, the apothecary was stuck with static wargear because his option appeared higher on the list, and deathwatch terminators could take heavies because you swapped weapons before adding a heavy one
raptor1770
@raptor1770
Jun 20 2017 01:56
I understand the order of operations perspective from top to bottom, but there isn't anything within the index that I am aware of to indicate to a new user that the order of wargear options matters.
Its unfortunate that it is so ambiguous considering that its such a clear statement
in any case I withdrew the pull request for the change I made
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 02:38
anybody know the Alt code for the degree symbol?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 02:49
0176
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 02:50
Gracias
I need to remember that one, I already know ¿ (0191) and ¡ (0161)
They come in handy around here lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 02:51
i guess you do some work in spanish :P
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 02:52
Actually, very little lol... the city I live in is largely Hispanic, I'm picking up the language. I kinda have to so I can get some of the best tamales here
That and I like to converse with pretty much anybody, so learning it helps
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 20 2017 03:35
I do too provided everyone speaks English and I don't think they're a moron.
I'm selfish
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 03:37
I really wish GW would hurry up and declare which DW min/max is the correct one
1-5 from the back table or 5-10 from the entry
I'm going to be selfish myself and probably run an allied detachment of 3 DW terminators and a cap
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 03:46
Considering their profile itself says you can add up to five more, the entry. There wouldn't be that much info there if it wasn't that way. The back is a typo
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 03:47
I reply with the 7th ed codex entry which 99% of dataslates so far follow, which was 1-5
it feels like a copy/paste error from deathwing or standard terminators
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 03:48
I retract my comment
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 03:50
I just want to drop a couple cyclone terminators for increased saturation fire
and to give my opponent more things to waste quality bullets on
I also want to see if my suicide vanguard can rack up similar silliness now to his 7th edition exploits
he has double inferno pistols
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:14
Damn, unless it's covered under the Army List section, Renegades & Heretics won't be getting the Tauros
I just dig the model, it would give me an excuse to buy one
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 04:15
the tauros and sky-talon are basically the two vehicles they keep to give the elysians that unqiue feel
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 20 2017 04:15
Do Renegades & Heretics still have absurdly costed guardsmen, artillery, and zombies?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:15
Don't know yet, the book comes out next week
there have to be some traitor Elysians
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 04:16
I'm curious to see the eldar stuff in Xenos FW
and the tau stuff because I'll be fighting hazards and O'Ralai for sure
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:17
I don''t know if I can handle taking on the R&H file too
I have to draw the line somewhere, right?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 04:19
nah, you feel the warp overtaking you, it is a good pain
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:27
The warp overtook me long ago
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 04:27
honestly with the transition to 8th edition I'm starting to regret my deathwatch
they were fun to paint, but they're so shit
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 20 2017 04:29
I saw the decline on SM/Deathwatch when the indexes leaked. Very vanilla and don't have much. I'm hoping the codexes bring them back in line with special rules.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:29
Mark of Khorne does nothing right now
KDK aren't even a thing currently, the Blood Tithe is nowhere to be seen :(
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 20 2017 04:30
Mark of XXX does nothing. Same with chapter
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 04:30
Fully aware
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 20 2017 04:32
While rules look good and things play awesome, it can feel a bit lack luster. Seems likely the two big forces in the Galaxy will have to wait for the codexes for flavor
*like
I expect both within 30 days tho
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 04:47
we're supposed to be getting ultramarines and death guard pretty soon, arent we?
army books that is
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 05:25
is there some guidance on how you would like FW implemented? I saw that the dedicated cat was deleted
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 05:51
According to the updated guidelines, they should be added to whichever catalogues they belong to, creating a new catalogue for any addition sub-factions
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 05:53
thanks - so for example I'd add a contemptor mortis to every space marine cat?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:04
um, unless I'm missing something, only the base SM CAT should have them
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:31
its an interesting question, since FW doesn't include any guidance about variant chapters, and all the specific ones are just a specific replacement of the <chapter> keyword
probably FAQ material considering BA and DA and even DW could take a good chunk of the FW models in 7th
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:40
mortis dreads specifically were very much a DA dread for a while
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:45
they're generally available to imperium now
image.png
whoops
wrong page
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Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:48
yes, but you cant take them as DA, BA, SW, DW, etc.
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:48
they have <CHAPTER> ?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:49
those chapters have an exclusive list of units that can gain their keyword
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:50
oh I see
interesting
so you could have a DA <Adeptus Astartes> list with a <Chapter: DA> Contemptor Mortis, but you couldn't have a <DA> list with it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:53
yes, but the Contemptor Mortis would have to be a different chapter
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:53
its because of the way GW worded the sections of the BA and DA sections of the index
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:54
yep I see
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:54
yep, and FW didnt account for it APU
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:54
I wonder if that's intentional. I guess we'll find out
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:54
its a "nothing but these units may be X" instead of "X uits from the base index can be X plus additional Y unit entries"
I'm going to guess this is another classic case of GW not telling forgeworld a damn thing aside from the bare minimum necessary
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:55
well all that needed to happen is a page in the FW index that says X units can be BA, Y units can be DA, etc.
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:55
yup
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:56
I'm guessing we'll get that via FAQ or digital page supplement, along with a "can't take marine superheavies without a terminus ultra or knight" problem
because right now to legally take a spartan you have to take 2 other non-relic LoW
which pretty much means knights, baneblade variants or the terminus ultra
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:57
or guilliman
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:57
he's an HQ
I think
let me look
nope, so he's a valid choice
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:59
wait, you can take a LOW in the supreme command detachment
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 06:59

do you mean for this? "“RELIC
If your army is Battle-forged, no Detachment may contain more RELICunits than it does non-RELICunits of the same battlefield role.”

Excerpt From: Games Workshop Ltd. “Imperial Armour - Index: Forces of The Adeptus Astartes.” iBooks. "

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 06:59
yep
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 06:59
oh, same battlefield role, my b
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:00
so for a relic LoW you must have 1-2 non-relic LoW
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:00
aye
if you're battle forged
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:00
except it has to be 2 because super-heavy detach is min 3
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:00
you can Get LoW other ways though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:00
same detachment
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:00
yikes
quite right
so spartans are apoc only if you want CPs
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 07:02
knights arent too out of the ordinary for a regular game
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:02
I guess
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:02
except matched play requires battleforged, so no spartan unless you want to spend 749 pts on robot grumpyman and a knight gallant, or 778 on two knight gallants
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:02
once you fill that spartan it's a lot of points too
quite apart from it's 320 plus guns
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 07:03
yeah i guess thats a lot of tax for one tank
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:04
it's pretty much left everyone I know scratching thier heads and making a specific exemption for it
but all the other superheavies have the same problem
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:04
I can see the point of the fluff - you're not going to risk a relic without significant cover
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:04
cerberus, falchion, fellblade, mastodon, typhon
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:05
but why no non-relic version
guess the mechanicum forgot how to build em
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:05
most of that list above I can see it as a way to enforce a pseudo "Apoc only" requirement
but the spartan is just a hardier troop transport, so the restriction makes very little sense
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:05
and the huge capacity
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:06
like a falchion I wouldn't expect to see without knights or titans to shoot at
eh, 5 models less and you can get a storm eagle to carry them for less points
James
@miproductions
Jun 20 2017 07:07
strue
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:07
I'm amused that the thunderhawk is probably the single most buffed model in the entire FW index
the old rules were hot garbage
now it's more effective and costs about 300pts less for the same gear
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 07:15
time I actually slept
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 07:34
ah, I see the DW TH/SS debate came up and was resolved... nice :D

also, am I stupid or is this a BS bug?

BSData/wh40k#278

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:01
wow that is weird
what happens if you make a "Sammael" category and make that max 1 in roster instead
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:11
That category already exists.. and BS does not care at all it seems...
both are marked as "Sammael", yet a max in roster on category Sammael, includinc child selections and forces, causes no error
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:13
huh, isnt that the point of categories, to let us do this kind of thing?
what happens if you make a force with HQ and Sammael categories, does it care then?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:15
yes, HQ does validate
either I'm not seeing something obvious right now..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:16
im just wondering if it only validates the categories that are in the force
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:17
but if I add 2 Sammaels they are in the force and therefore should validate
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:17
but i mean the categories that are actually linked to the force
yeah it does
samm.png
seems like a bug to me
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:20
order of operation should not affect validation either way
adding a troop should not suddenly cause errors in HQ
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:21
yeah, thats definitely a bug too
oh, your conditions are looking for links. try changing them to look for the entry instead
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:25
... well fuck :P
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 08:26
yeah idk, conditions based on links have always been buggy in my experience
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 08:27
I can imagine making that work aint that easy
looking for a link sounds.. fishy
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 08:51
finally had my books and other 8th ed goodies delivered :D
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:06
anyone up for a release? we're already at 24 commits since the last...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:08
yeah, was thinking we should sort out pull requests before releasing
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:09
that might take a while, raptor is busy makimg those :P
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:10
tekton's and crowbar's can be merged since i think theyre the authors of those CATs
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:10
aighty, I'll merge those then
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:11
anyone want the xeno 2 index with the Shitty blank pages removed? They need to get better people to make these things
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:12
blank pages?
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:13
Some of the pages come up with a blank page next to the one with the info on, from where they were 2 page spreads but they never removed the background for the 2nd page
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:14
idk, mine looks fine, havent seen anything like that while using it
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:14
Check the venomthrope page. what program/app you using?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:15
look fine to me, and Readium
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:15
fair enough, mine came up with them on my phone and using calibre on my pc so guessed it was for everyone
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 09:16
oh you mean the epubs? i haven't checked them properly yet. I'm probably going to compress the images in them at some point
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:16
Yeah the epubs
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 09:16
Fixed all the SW bugs last night so they should be good for a release :+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:17
down to single page issues. Those requests cleared quite some stuff
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 09:17
I'm not sure what I'm going to do, torn between making them all images for easier flicking through, or split them up into factions
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:41
@Thairne I'm getting the same error as #234, try playing around with other options, like the Alpha's weapons
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:42
what the actual fuck... how...
2 of the melee weapons interefere with that
and different errors
and sometimes none
what in the seven hells... am I validating on links again?
just by clicking the same weapon over and over again you can create and remove the errors o_o
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:47
yeah, i managed to get the maximum to -2 in a few clicks
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:48
but they're totally unrelated...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 20 2017 09:48
something weird going on with updating constraints
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 09:49
ffs why do I get all those nullPointer and other weird BS bugs? Cut me some slack!
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 11:17
@Entropy1986_twitter yes, please
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jun 20 2017 11:40
@capitaladot https://www.dropbox.com/s/asdy2b04m148kxa/Warhammer%2040%2C000%20-%20Index%20-%20Xenos%202.epub?dl=0 I compressed the images too, so its a little smaller too
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 20 2017 14:13
Thanks for the Readium hint! works gr8, better than Calibre
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 20 2017 14:27
Np
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 14:39
is it just me or does the stuff on the right of gitter double up for anyone else?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 14:39
it certainly looks like it
it certainly looks like it
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 14:39
lul
lul
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 14:40
what the actual fuck is going on?!
what the actual fuck is going on?!
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 14:40
it looks like theres a second webhook in github for reasons
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 14:40
aw. You broke the immersion.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 14:41
sorry :(
sorry :(
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 14:41
:smile:
:smile:
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 14:43
i deactivated one, i assume that's mainly an @amis92 thing?
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 16:27
anyone else finding gitter not loading correctly last couple of days
the stuff the right isn't loading
does it on both my laptop and desktop
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 20 2017 16:31
@skonk Gitter was screwing up for me like that yesterday. Works again today.
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 16:37
ah
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 18:07
Thanks @Entropy1986_twitter. Might you have x1?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 18:42
@Thairne have you checked for weird sharing of constraints in the entry? I ran across a similar problem yesterday, it seemed like one of my link lists was sharing a constraint with something it had no business sharing with, I had to toggle the share checkbox to fix it
(and share was unchecked to begin with)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 19:21
I didnt yet, but that would mean the sharing constraints would consistently violate
here however it is different - click once, suddenly maximum 0 where it should be 2
click twice, error disappears
click thrice, maximum -2...
it is really really weird
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 19:22
oh god; @zopha @capitaladot that bug remind you of anything?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 20 2017 19:31
Yep. Posted as much in the BS channel.
Perversely glad the king project has the bug and it might get fixed. ;)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 19:35
Oh I wasn't referring to that bug - I was referring to the jump pack one on cents and praetors
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 19:51
rechecked it
it seems like having shared checked on repeatable modifiers was the cause
however it still should not affect entries that are not related at all..
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 20:01
so @WindstormSCR ... you were right. Behavior is still REALLY REALLY strange...
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:33
Note to self: when you take the day off work to do some much needed self care and spend two hours at FLGS painting Kharn, don't drop him in the middle of your wet palette.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 20 2017 20:33
nooo
did he at least fall in the red paint?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:34
The red... And the silver, the flesh tone, the brown, pretty much everything.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 20 2017 20:35
Oh man that sucks
Ugh
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 20:38
:(
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:41
Nothing great, but it's therapy for me
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 20 2017 20:42
Dude I would say he looks pretty bad ass
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 20:46
nice :)
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:46
That was before the tumble :( and thanks
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 20:46
I painted up a couple more Pox Walkers
can't really mess up with Pox Walkers
did you manage to clean it up after the drop btw?
id have dropped it in some water as soon as it happened and tried to wash it off
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:47
I'll have to redo the base, it was still wet. Most of the unwanted paint is off
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 20:47
ah
I have 2 more boxes worth of the chaos starter models that some come sometime this week, so I just have the set from my own box at the mo and i'm going with quite a zombie-esque plaguey, dirty, dingy look
i'll do another 20 with a more fleshy tone i think
and then the last 20 i dunno
Pox.jpg
Altho with how slow i am at painting they may never get done
i've managed 4 so far
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:51
Looking good
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 20 2017 20:51
My last completed models
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:51
You need to green stuff some wild hair onto one with the lab coat, paint it blue
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 20:53
nice :)
yeh lol
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:56
One of these days I'll set all my stuff out and take pics. I have an old album but nothing recent
Old pics of army
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 20 2017 20:57
Damn that looks good
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 20:59
There's a lot missing from it, maybe I'll take new pics this weekend. And thanks
My brass scorpion is missing, a few blood slaughterers, Kytan, Kharybdis, 30ish Khorne dogs, bloodletters, etc
Karanak
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 21:10
Are the 8th rules for the Kytan any good?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 21:14
Haven't gotten to use it yet, let me find the rules on the epub
image.png
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 21:18
330 points + 184 or something for his gun
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Jun 20 2017 21:28
the 2D6 advance is good.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 21:29
cerastus knights also got the 2d6 advance
lancer is now quite scary
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 21:30
5 s20 attacks is pretty legit
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 21:31
with a straight up 6 damage each
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 21:31
15 s10 is nothing to sneeze at though either
we good for a release?
James
@skonk
Jun 20 2017 21:35
@cartag talking of the Kytan made me want to lookup the Lord of Skulls again and I've noticed in battlescribe it still shows "Escalation p83" in the Ref box
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 20 2017 21:47
@alphalas a relase would be good, but let my just pull first
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 21:48
:shipit: ?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 20 2017 21:48
:+1: :shipit: indeed
the pull is merged all is well
tekton
@tekton
Jun 20 2017 21:49
:shipit:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 20 2017 21:51
:shipit: 'd
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 21:52
ship it'd
:ship: 'd!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 20 2017 21:52
:cool:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 21:52
I think I need to finish painting my landraider and stormraven and base the dreadknight, then my GK's are "complete" and I won't feel bad moving on to other projects
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 20 2017 21:53
also, @cartag Kharn looks awesome, and the rest of your army looks very dangerous indeed... I see what you mean when you say the warp overtook you a long time ago...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 21:53
@Thairne glad the share thing helped, it's been interesting dealing with that wierdness since I use repeats a lot on the mobile files
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 21:54
I've documented the behavior, maybe Jon takes a look at it and can reproduce and isolate that... "behavior"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 20 2017 22:04
there's still a lot about BS I don't know, so sometimes I hesitate to label things bugs
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 20 2017 22:12
while true, this certainly qualifies as one :P
The inconsistancy in the behavior is a giveaway
Peter Zaitcev / [USSX] Hares
@USSX-Hares
Jun 20 2017 22:32
Who is catalogue keeper for Dark Eldar?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 20 2017 22:52
i really want to take a kytan now...
cartag
@cartag
Jun 20 2017 23:15
Thanks @FarseerVeraenthis, I have been playing for 3+ years, and have yet to get a second army. Strictly Chaos.