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24th
Jun 2017
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 00:02
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Just the drill to build
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 24 2017 00:02
@OftKilted this worked in the 2.01alpha
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 00:06
@/all anyone need anything done to the gst while im in it?
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 00:19
yeah, one sec
#167, the Fallen are in GST
I've been avoiding updating it unless I had a reason to be in GST
It will fix for Imperium that link to it as well
:D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 00:40
Well, my marines went down in flames.... again
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 00:41
???
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 00:41
and this time quite literally to SoB
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 00:41
oh, a game
im finding SM lackluster to anything other than SM
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 00:41
I have now officially lost more 8th edition games than 7th ed games in the last 9 months
6 8th and 5 7th
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 00:42
there is no flavor like other armies, waiting for codex to put them ontop again
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 00:42
I'm actually picking up eldar, now that the Super heavy grav tanks aren't trash and I don't feel like a gorgonzola vendor for playing bikes/speedy
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 00:44
Flak, if you're still in the GST want to throw in a modified Psyker profile? :D
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 00:44
yeah thats fine
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 00:44
Can Cast/Can Deny/Also Known/Other
and gracias :)
I can also use the profile for Khorne units that can deny but not case :D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 00:45
I think the worst moment of the two games was my stormeagle dying, exploding, and then fully half the passengers dying to rolls of 1 for passenger death
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 00:51
You know, with how they're doing army lists now, it would behoove GW to sell $5 dataslates with a named HQ and unit or two and an army list for special sub factions
Like the Skulltakers for instance. FW named HQ of Zhufor, could make the Skulltaker terminator zerkers and a short list of fluffy units they can bring, sell it for a couple bucks
low effort on their part, extra flavor for users who want to field that army
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 01:09
Please nobody do a release in the next hour, I'm almost done with FW CSM
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 01:12
:)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 01:21
ok @cartag i uploaded
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 01:35
:+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 02:39
@FarseerVeraenthis @alphalas the instruction images in #77 broke
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 02:45
they've also changed anyway so it's not a big loss
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 24 2017 02:46
So completely unrelated. I've become addicted to crypt of the necrodancer. If anyone likes rithm games you should try it. 3$ on steam sale now.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 02:51
Fun game, I picked it up in a sale a while back
I've been playing Stardew Valley lately
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 02:53
@Kohato I feel a distrubance in the force, the soundtrack to that game is what I had on loop while building the mobile files >.>
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 04:30
Since when does the order of modifiers matter? #424
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 04:31
I listen to NIN, Ghosts I-IV when I'm coding... or Spose.
The only thing that could affect it is if one of them is a set rather than increment or decrement
that I can think of anywya
set it to increment by 1 at each of those levels and it will correct it
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 04:38
@alphalas it shouldnt, but its linked to model. ive found that unreliable and just link the id it needs to reference, in this case, the conscript id
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 04:39
I remember something about BS having issues if you do multiple Set modifiers at the same level. It was behaving like it hits one then stops modifying
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 04:40
It does, I've had issues doing power with that
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 04:40
If you set it to this, it will work
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 04:40
since I'm operating on one layer for mobile
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 04:40
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flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 04:40
i have Bike squads set up with three seperate increases and referance id and it works fine.
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 04:40
increments work, Set modifiers don't
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 24 2017 04:40
^^^
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 04:41
oh i see, they are set pl in AM
increment > set
you think we can hit 500 issues before the 1 week mark? :p
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 06:46
@flakpanda yep :smile: just for a laugh, I wondered if you would notice :+1: hehehe!
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 14:20
When you realise you fluked it so the magnets happen to match up....
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cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 14:59
doing a release
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 15:04
👍
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 15:05
can anyone find the Medusa entry in the Imperial Armour - Index - Astra Militarum ?? i can find the Medusa Carriage Battery but not just the medusa
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 15:08
It is the Medusa Carriage Battery
I think anyway...
hmmmm
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 15:13
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i don't think so, but could be mistaken
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 15:13
yeah, looking at the appendices, it's not in the book
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 15:13
and not in imperium 2 neither
well i scrap it for now and write FW facebook to ask if its a mistake
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 15:41
I hate people sometimes... #426
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 15:48
The reason that most aren't collective is probably because somebody made duplicates of all the ones in GST that were collective and then changed the originals to not collective
I had to redo all the chaos files because of that
and he has no idea what "collective" means in that sense
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jun 24 2017 15:55
I love how he's had the time to go through the cat in the editor looking at all that and didn't do a pull request to fix it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 24 2017 15:58
#426 geebuz that's a novella of a bug report
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 24 2017 16:04
I just made the disheartening discovery that I am out of coffee
That...simply will not do
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 24 2017 16:05
Time for beer then.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 16:11
anyone in the GST at the moment?
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 24 2017 16:33
Yes, the MCB is the Medusa unit
The other Medusa variants on the FW site are 30k
IMO
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 24 2017 16:39
It's confusing 'cos the Medusa was added into the IG codex in 5th (along with the Vendetta which is also FW) but then, along with the other FW units, was taken out of the codex for 6th and now 8th
I shall now fade back into the mist
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 16:43
if you value your sanity, dont look at #433
i dont even know where to begin
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 24 2017 16:44
Tell them to make their own gst lol
"Working as intended, cheerio"
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:17
its been 90 mins and ive reread #426 and it still makes me mad...
i also closed a simialar issue, #415, last night. and that novela popped up overnight :/
same guy
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 17:20
its fixed and released right?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:20
which one?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 17:21
space marines collectivity
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:21
#415 is. not #426. I still have to comb thru everything in the catalog.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 17:22
Le-sir was causing problems before too so not surprising
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 17:22
well he called out tactical squad and assault squad, both of which are collective
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:24
what makes me mad is going thru the catalog and pointing things out and acting he has authority on the matter, rather than just fixing and doing a PR
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 17:25
well wrote to FW hope they will answer back :)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:25
his post comes off as pompous
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 17:26
"One should go through every unit in the Space Marine codex.."
well why doesnt one fuck off and let us know which units are affected?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 17:26
Like I said was causing issues previously too
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 17:26
i think i replied appropriately
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 17:27
"willie hears ya... willie doesnt care"
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 17:32
Why doesn't one go outside and play "Hide and Go Fuck Oneself?"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 18:00
Alright, I'm done in the GST. I converted some shared rules into profiles, so apologies if I broke anyone's CAT.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 18:03
You should have just made a second version that was Collective and uploaded it. That's what I've been doing for Space Marine stuff
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 18:05
Which rules? I don't think I'll need to change chaos but maybe
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 18:06
a bunch of fortification ones like immobile, fire points, magazine explosion
i'll get a full list if you want
Immobile
Automated Weapons
Magazine Explosion
Fire Points (5)
Fire Points (10)
Fire Points (15)
Automated Weapons (Gun Emplacement)
Defence Line
Static Defence Network
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 18:12
Hmm... Pretty sure I used immobile for drop Pod
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 18:13
I'm good lol
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 18:14
Hmm, they put Renegades... in the AM book :(
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 18:14
well they are AM and quite frankly their references are all in AM
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 18:14
Yup
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 18:18
if they weren't in AM, you'd have to buy the AM book anyway to use their FW units
François Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jun 24 2017 18:52
Hey, @ddarz is your pull request ready to merge? Can't wait to get a first look at your work!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 19:46
we need to figure out what we're doing with the FW astartes units before we merge. but you should be able to preview a pull request with the github app
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 19:47
I though ght FW astartes was getting it's own cat?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 19:49
that makes the most sense to me, but the guidelines say otherwise
\12. Forge World publications SHOULD be incorporated into existing catalogues if they do not introduce new subfaction requiring it's own file.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 19:51
...but every faction can use them.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 19:51
RAI, yeah probably
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 24 2017 19:57
Guys, guidelines are still elastic :D I've written down something I think appropriate. We're a meritocracy, not autocracy here (at least I believe so ;) ). Take stance in the discussion and we can change anything.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 19:58
Astartes FW should be separate imo
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 24 2017 19:58
Ok, now arguments.
I'm probably going to agree - but I'd love to have a comment over on #3 making it clear that it's better this way and why.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 20:03
alright, i went and looked up the definition of SHOULD and it seems good as is
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 24 2017 20:04
Bonus points for you :D
:cookie:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 24 2017 20:04
yay for doing the bare minimum
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 20:05
I think that having as it's own will eliminate multiple entries. If not it in all atstartes cats and I add 3 to one detachment...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 24 2017 20:05
I'm sooo happy with Y'vahra and SOOO confused over about half the rules - FW can't write rules for sure. I know it's been raised, but I have to vent it. It's bad, really, really bad.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 20:06
Also just adding the FW cat when needed to your detachment makes for sense when EVERY atsartes faction can use tyem
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 24 2017 20:07
Great. Now that we have reasoning written down, let's merge the PR! (Or is it still not ready?)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 21:50
erm... why is it that a load of Deathwatch sets are "sold out online" and marked as no longer available...?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 21:51
They stopped selling the deathwatch "xxx" after the upgrade sprue came out
Transport, chaplain, termies...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 21:52
hmmm... they were a good deal...
I'll have to see what stock is left at my FLGS
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 21:52
I know.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 21:53
although, I do already have quite a large Deathwatch army ready to be built
(well, a lot of it is built already)
and if it is not that great in 8th (#waitforthecodex) then I might not need to get anything else
I think another transport would be good though
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 21:54
For some reason I keep fancying buying more forgeworld stuff
At the mo I have a boner for getting some Rapier weapon platforms, but Kromlech do some nice ones for half the price so maybe get some of those
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 21:55
Isn't the corvus really good now?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 21:57
yeah, and I think kill teams are awesome, one term, one VV, one biker and you can fall back, shoot, charge and ignore morale
the Corvus was always good, but I've not tried them yet and some people have said they've gone backwards
tbh, mine have always been more "Dead"watch than Deathwatch...
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 22:02
I realize the convo is two hours ago at this point, but I did FW Daemons in the daemon file, anything heretic astartes in its own CAT, and the knights and titans in respective catalogs
In other news, The Blood Harvest took down some Imperial Fists today
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 22:02
:+1: and :+1:
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 22:04
My maulerfiend, who hadn't done shit by get immobilized or explode on turn 1 for three sodding years, killed two dreadnoughts today.
but get*
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 24 2017 22:05
awesomeness
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:11
I was playing 3 mauler fiends in most games in 7th and they generally did some good work
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 22:12
This one maulerfiend was always targeted first, regardless of what else I fielded
Everybody at my FLGS made it a game to see if they could keep the streak going of that model not doing anything
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:12
lol
cartag
@cartag
Jun 24 2017 22:13
3.5 years, I think it killed one model
literally every other game it was immobilized or destroyed turn 1
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 24 2017 22:13
Damn...
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:13
I'm thinking about getting some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391800421487 and some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391800422126 to use as Rapier Batteries
12 shot heavy bolter + 2 marines for (total of 6 wounds) for 86 points
the other model looks generic enough to be used as any of the other weapon options i reckon
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 22:20
So just finished a crazy 180 pow 8 player game - 5 hours for 4 full turns
It went super-smoothly
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:20
:)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 22:25
4 people per side, 45 pow each - biggest problem we had was one guy was in 7e mindset that since he his exalted blightbringer was in cc with harlequins, within 1" of a warboss that was in cc with my custodes, but never declared against the custodes or consolidated into them; he misunderstood that because I killed the warboss, putting the blightbringer outside of 3" of the custodes that they could walk away and the harlequins could flip belt away
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:26
heh
i really should go play at the local shop
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 24 2017 22:28
So he was kinda butthurt when my vindicare took 6wounds off in the shooting phase - but once the way assault works was explained to him he realized it was a 7 v 8 misunderstanding and calmed down
Funnily enough, that was the second exalted blightbringer my vindicare's done that to
Penallegion
@Penallegion
Jun 24 2017 22:33
Reply forgeworld.png
Awesome that squares that :D
James
@skonk
Jun 24 2017 22:37
the 7th to 8th transition will take ages before all the changes sink in