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30th
Jun 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 00:01
the award for most needlessly long name for unit goes to: Death Korps Death Rider Command Squadron
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Jun 30 2017 00:09
Wolf Guard Battle Leader in Terminator Armour
Not quite as redundant.
Duncan Davis
@tanahara
Jun 30 2017 00:37
Is the cent ram in battlescribe? I think I'm missing it somewhere
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 00:39
seriously, is there absolutely any point for twin shuircats on eldar windriders?
I'm sitting here building 2 more squads, and looking at the options I have no idea why I should take anything but the shuriken cannons
scatter lasers lose battle focus and take -1 BS if they move, for 12" more range.
twin shuricats lose 2 points of strength and 12" of range for one extra shot
and all are 5 points or less cost difference
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 30 2017 02:33
lol at #562
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 03:08
that's amusing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 04:01
Or the one I just closed- I don't even get what he was ranting about
You know part of me pines for the simpler days when we'd open anon bugreps just to mess with each other
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 04:18
you're welcome to help with mobile stuff if you want extra suffering
:P
I still need to finish craftworlds FW entries and refactor AM, then add the FW stuff, I'm not looking forward to it but that'll be done tomorrow while I work from home
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jun 30 2017 04:47
@alphalas can you start to link the Wiki page instead of #77 when people ask or bring up multi-detachments?
James
@miproductions
Jun 30 2017 07:22
lol #562 NO UR DUMB
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 07:27
The idea is fine, but the execution is somewhat lacking
mostly because of huge discrepansies between points costs and power level
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 07:28
its ok with some armies, others it breaks down entirely
notably Guard, GSC and Deathwatch
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 07:29
nids and necrons have some awful cases as well.
When fully upgraded points/level fluctuates wildly
(and it completely breaks down with forgeworld)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:03
yeah, forgeworld is all over the place (malanthrope anyone?). anyone with a lot of optional upgrades on cheap units are particularly bad - ie. guardsmen
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 09:15
Tell me about it. Cunting guard :P
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 09:16
Is it possible to track 4 stats with just one wound tracker?
On Titans I need to track M, WS, BS and Void Shields
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:16
if you dont use the generic one, yeah
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:17
oh, can you create your own profile types in each CAT??
I thought they were set in the GST only??
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:18
yeah, you can define anything in the CAT :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:18
that would be awesome to make Distort fields nicer in the Aeldari CAT
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:19
GST is there to reduce duplication and make everything nice and compatible
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:19
also, on the subject of Power Level, I thought the whole idea is to pick up a (fairly) balanced game quickly, and not "max all the things"
that's fab, I'll have a fiddle with that to make some improvements to the FW Titans in the Eldar CAT
cheers @GenWilhelm :+1:
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 09:20
Oh great, I didn't know I could define another profile type
Thank you @GenWilhelm
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:20
you're both welcome <3
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:20
:kiss:
hehehehehe
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:21
and yeah, i see why PL exists. it has some issues, but it makes pick-up games much easier
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:21
Aye, for tracking stat damage I've started using a shared selection for each unit
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 09:22
@FarseerVeraenthis What the idea behind power points is, and what it will end up with is two completely different things. When creating or evaluating rules, always assume people will make the optimal choices
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:22
3-4 profiles go in there, one for each line on the table, link the unit to it, done
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 09:22
*power levels
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:22
@M4uler you didn't want to use the wound tracker profile type then...??
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:23
I had to define a few new ones in some CATs
Tyranids especially; each MC has a bloody different table!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:23
FW brought in some new ones :D
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:23
Those rogues! lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:23
yeah, they're all different, pretty much
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:24
M/WS/A and M/BS/A are by far the most common
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:24
I kinda like that though, the different designs of the MCs shows through as they take a whuppin'
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:24
I've just put the wound track profiles in with the unit, so each entry will have a profile for the model and then 3 (or 4, or 5) profiels for the wound track table
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:24
Yeah, most vehicles are just M/BS/A and flyers M/BS
When I came up with the SE stat tables I wanted them to all be in the same place for editing so they're all listed together as "Stat Damage (unit name)"
No need to pick through the SEs to find a specific unit, just made it a lot easier (and quicker) when I was creating them
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:48
Oh I see! so, right, yes, that would work... sorry, completely thick moment then!!
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:52
No probs :D
I have them frequently, usually when Git hub is involved
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 09:57
Chaps, with the Forge World units are we going to maintain them in their own CATs for each army or integrate them into the existing GW CATs?
I can see with Marines at least it may be worth keeping them separate other wise it's a ton of extra work for each person looking after each Marine force
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 09:59
Integrate!! unless there is a different faction, or other special reasons
tbh I think most of the FW stuff is in already
(ok, I'm only halfway through Eldar)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 09:59
put them in the parent faction CAT, unless there's a good reason not to (eg. space marines)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:00
but I think all "extra" CAT's have already been created where required
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 10:01
yeah, we dont have DKK, or imperial titan CATs yet
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:02
Oi, I did the Titans CAT
haha
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:03
erm, #558
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:03
But I might've missed any comms from Thairne about having it included
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:04
oh, that's knights, not titans... @M4uler did you do a PR to include your CAT??
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:04
I think Thairne wanted to look at it first? I'm still trying to get my head around forks, branchs, pull reqs and whatnot
I understand it in theory but in practice it seems messy lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:06
yeah, once you get it then it's obvious...
although, seems like @Crowbar90 might be doing something looking at the comments on #382
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 10:08
Hmm yeah, I just completed my Adeptus Titanicus cat
And my PR for FW knights in Questor Imperialis was merged a couple hours ago
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:10
BSData/wh40k#569
Ah
Coolio, feel free to bin my just-created PR
@Crowbar90 Did you use the Chaos Warhound wound track/stat damage table?
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 10:12
I just created another profile type in my CAT
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:13
No, I mean the actual Imperial Warhound table in the book is b0rk3d; only the first line is legit
The 2nd line is missing then 3rd & 4th are just wrong
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:13
@Crowbar90 how far through are you?? could you somehow merge your work into @M4uler 's CAT??
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:14
Mine is complete AFAIK, only 3 Titans to include :]
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:14
oh, sorry, slow reading :-P
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 10:14
Mine is completed
All wargear and all titans included :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:14
:worried: so, time for a roll off then
"the most important things is to have fun..."
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 10:17
Ok, I opened #570
You choose what to merge :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:18
I honestly don't know how to decide whose CAT to use. so I defer to the old boys who a) know about Titans, and b) might be able to figure it out without causing damage to the repo... paging @Thairne @Kohato @cartag @amis92 @GenWilhelm <-- please use your skills and knowledge to chose a Titans CAT :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 10:18
flips a coin
THAT ONE!
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:18
Well I'm not an official contributor so I'm OK with mine not being used - it's up to you guys
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:19
hehehehe
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 10:19
yeah, we'll take a look and hopefully pick one before the next release
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 10:19
Sorry about the confusion, I though no one was already working on it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:19
it's cool, a good job it's only a "small" CAT
but yes, unfortunate
having said that, at least there is definitely a CAT ready :smile:
right so, @M4uler to return to your original question, once one of the titan CAT's has been chosen there will only be the DKOK CAT for alphalas to finish, and then people are adding FW units in their own CAT's as they go
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:23
That's fine, work is slow at the mo and I enjoy doing constructive work for stuff that helps me and a load of other people out
Gotcha, thanks
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 10:25
@miproductions on the subject of PR's, I'm going to close your one since it is now conflicted... I think someone else added the FW units, but how you arrived at a PR is the correct method :+1:
also, jeez I'm having a sleepy brain day, FW Adeptus Astartes is a separate CAT...
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 10:28
:D
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 10:42
@M4uler, who/what is "Team Handsome"?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 11:15
well I can say that crowbar so far did some superb work on the FW knights and the Questoris he did initially.
Didn't see M4ulers yet, but you missed my commment about me needing a file or aPR to look at it :P I cant use my crystal ball to do it :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 11:37
@CrusherJoe and I are working on DKOK on my branch- once it's done I'll go back to doing my work all on master
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jun 30 2017 11:44
Thank you @Thairne :)
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 11:52
@GenWilhelm Haha, TH is my gaming group
We are all quite the handsome devils, I'll have you know
@Thairne Aye, I thought I missed a response! I'm not in here as much as you guys
@GenWilhelm Feel free to edit my TH tags out of any CAT of mine that is used in an official capacity
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 12:14
#571 this is a fair point, how comes LotD were pulled out, but BT's weren't??
In the index, LotD is a single datasheet, and they don't have their own units list like BA, or DA, for example...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:17
you'd have to integrate them into every single imperium cat then.
If you keep it separate, you can use them more easily. Whereas BTs crusader squads are linked to the SM cat.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 12:21
righto, I suppose it is easier for the BS roster editor to load a CAT with a single datasheet in it than it is to load the entire SM CAT if you only want to use one unit
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:22
and less confusing for the user since you dont get the entire SM catalogue as options
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 12:28
righto, I've written a response and closed the bug :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 12:29
:+1:
@M4uler, I'm also curious as to why the catalogue is at v1002 :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:30
oh god
4 digit version numbers
the cadia nightmare
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 12:31
RIP catellans, you shall not be missed
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 12:32
Haha, the version numbers are from when I didn't rename the files and I didn't want them overwritten by the official stuff here when getting new data
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:32
though I still revel in the glory of finding a solution for that shitstorm... ^^
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 12:32
It just kinda became a habit
The Titans cat is actually v2 from where I had to update the Warhound table
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 12:35
ah i see, that makes sense
@Thairne i applaud everyone who worked on it, but at the same time I was glad none of the CATs I worked on were involved :P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:37
I share that sentiment... I'd've been happy to dodge the bullet. But alas...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 12:41
I don't know what you mean... (returns to the webway)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 12:41
laughs in tyranid
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 30 2017 12:49
HF there @FarseerVeraenthis... The Imperium was and is there as well :P Also, good one Gen ^^
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 12:56
Hola folks, happy friday
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 12:57
well, my lazy friday morning is just about over and I need to head to work in half an hour or so for the evening shift
but I appreciate the sentiment :P
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 12:57
:D
3 hours to pub-oclock
and a busy weekend painting a bajillion models that I keep putting off
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 12:59
yeah, yeah, I've heard that one before. "I'm going to get so many models done .. tomorrow"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 13:01
.... taps angrily on keyboard .."How very dare you sir !" ..... but yeah, you got me
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:03
playing around in BS : There's another possible air-spam list with Elysians
you can bring 6 fully armed vendettas at 1650 points (3x twin lascannon + 2x heavy bolters)
and all of your infantry tax is in reserve
so at 1850 you can bring another lesser flyer, or have multiple units of drop troops to grab objectives
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:09
FWs brought Air-Spam back hard
Between Elysians and Tau it's a thing again
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:09
are there any viable counters at all?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:10
Arguably tau air is quality over Elysians quantity, though
I'm sure there are - it's not like 6e where if you have no AA you're fucked
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:10
well, assault troops with FLY and power fists
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:10
Or 7e
^that -
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:11
the trickiest thing will be getting into position to charge the flyer
since their movement is so high you'll have to get good at estimating
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:12
Or you're like me and just have the table covered in ASM lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:12
but, welcome to Warhammer - you can measure everything except what your opponent plans to do
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:13
50 VGVs lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:13
hehehehe, yeah, that's one way of getting there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:13
I gotta try a VGV/DCo list - that would be fun
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:13
or Drukhari transports, open-topped = mobile weapons platforms ftw
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:14
fill a trukk with burnas, thats my anti-air insurance
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 13:14
^that
Since flamers auto-hit flyers
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:15
10x flyrants with monstrous rending claws (180points each)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:15
yup, that would work
although, tricky to battle-forge it
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:16
I really think some of these detachments were a mistake to include
or should have command point penalty over bonus
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:17
they could have made some of them "auxiliary", and you cant have more auxiliary than non-auxiliary
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:19
part of the problem is the patrol detachment, though - it's just too cheap a tax for an HQ
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:19
mmm, i think its fine if there's a detachment limit
big mek on a bike with 2 kombi-skorchas
now there's some cheap dakka
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:29
sorry, I hadn't looked at the detachments properly, yeah, 10 x HQ's is two Supreme Command Detachments...
yeah, I tend to agree with @GenWilhelm you need to have a limit on which detachment you choose
and so for a tournament it would be best to have a specific army construction, i.e. 2 x Patrol detachments and either a super heavy / flyer / supreme detachment
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:31
Funny thing is with FW Tau is that if you bring a Tiger Shark with the heavy railguns it can't actually fire them
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:31
I would've just gone with 1 max of each detachment, for simplicity
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:31
FW need to fix that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:31
yeah, we spotted that :D
needs an ability that lets it fire macro on the move
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:32
The IA books are such a rush-job :(
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:32
the xenos one was, yeah
havent studied the AM book, but the first two are good
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:33
The Tiger Shark would benefit from Hover Jets
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:33
The Malanthrope is suspiciously cheap in points, the Scythed 'Dule went from a hellstorm bum-paddle template to an 8" range instead of 18", the Dimachaeron has a weapon that does x2S when rolling to wound which is useless...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:33
and that would be quite fluffy (IMO) - it want to fire these massive weapons, then it needs to stop
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 13:34
Xenos one was disappoint for me, I had hoped for a reason to buy a Necron Tomb Sentinel ... but there's just a stat line and an 8 wound monstrous creature .. it felt really 'meh'
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:34
:(
I've already politely harassed FW via mail and they're working on it, apparently
The book needs re-releasing with corrections, a FAQ will be pretty phat
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:35
you dont want to pay 10 power for a 90 points character?!
mutter mutter
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:35
It'll get FAQed to about 190pts :'(
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:35
you think the points are a typo?
hadnt considered it that way round
M4uler
@M4uler
Jun 30 2017 13:38
I reckon so; it's an MC and a good support unit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 13:39
it's basically 3 venomthropes stapled together isnt it?
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jun 30 2017 13:41
wasn't it 85 points before? It would be pretty harsh to price it at 190
James
@miproductions
Jun 30 2017 13:45
@FarseerVeraenthis no worries, I saw the close and it makes more sense that way. cheers
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:46
no worries, I didn't want you to think we'd just forgotten about it :smile:
James
@miproductions
Jun 30 2017 13:47
it's all good
I'll try to QA the FW knights as I'm building a couple
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 30 2017 13:52
Xenos is a flaming turd. Squatted Corsairs and nerfed the two units that remained.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 13:57
well, Corsairs didn't get COMPLETELY Squatted, since they still have units, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a pure Corsair army, since they don't have an HQ :worried:
otherwise, I agree, there are a significant number of issues with the FW Xenos index
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 13:59
will FW follow up the indices with codices later you think ?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:00
doubt it, theyre pretty much at the state now that they were in 6/7th
they'll just put out a datasheet whenever they release a new model
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:16
yeah, wrt Corsairs, it's difficult to say, what they need is an HQ and transports... what they had in 7e was a different formation from craftworlds and effectively access to all elder vehicles
stupid "clever" autocorrect * Eldar
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:18
how different were princes compared to autarches? i dont recall
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:20
![alt](https://i.redd.it/hjduhfjuds6z.jpg)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:20
they were tougher (3 wounds) and slightly more dangerous (S 4, I 6, A3)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:20
well that worked lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:20
hehehe!
and they had more flexibility with equipment
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:21
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:22
oh they had that "Fixation" thing didnt they, where they could choose a modifier of some kind?
is that a looted primarch?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:22
what is needed as a quick fix patch is a statement like Ynnari that says "pick any Aeldari unit, discard the army rules and give it Anhrathe keywords" and away you go
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:22
Primork
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:22
smooth
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:22
does he fit in my chinork?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:23
I know a Smurf player I can really upset with this !
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:24
Corsair Princes had "Obsessions" and your first prince could choose one which gave various buffs
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:24
obsession, thats the badger!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 14:24
:wink: smooth, someone else who uses that completely bonkers phrase
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 14:25
Obsession with the malefic summoning nonsense was great
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jun 30 2017 14:25
im glad reckless abandon is now sensible
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jun 30 2017 14:34
@sk_Father_Price_twitter sweet, now do the same with Saint Celestine :satisfied:
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 14:34
it's not mine .. I wish .. I love Orks, just spotted it on Reddit .
this is my current project
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 16:16
@FarseerVeraenthis late to the conversation as usual, but if you eldar I think shining spears are the absolute best way to deal with flyer spam.
@sk_Father_Price_twitter what parts did you use? or is that 100% dark fury?
I'm guessing setorax from overkill, fw shoulderpad instead of deathwatch, some filler and a dark fury pack?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 30 2017 17:54
I wish they'd update the shining spears to the new wind rider models...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 18:03
pretty sure they're just an upgrade kit?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jun 30 2017 18:06
The pose changed completely. The Spears could not hope to lean the right way.
Basically, from Cafe Racer to Crotch Rocket.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 18:42
I'm going to be ordering some in the near future, so I'll take some shots of what's in the box
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 19:59
I guarantee you it'll be the old bikers with a finecast upgrade sprue
I've built spears before
And @capitaladot it's more cruiser vs crotch rocket now lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 20:52
actually, thoughts on spears vs skyweavers in the new edition for assault elements of a jetdar list?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 30 2017 21:10
@WindstormSCR 99% correct on the build ! .. Vanguard Vet shoulder pad .. the rest was hacking Setorax apart for a different pose
just building a full Assault + Vets army with scouts as troops .. basically the Talon Strike Force, just without the rules ...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 21:15
I've so far found massed jump packs to be exceptionally disappointing
even with shrike
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 30 2017 21:22
I had some success with BA scream and leap (all VGVs) but it was also partially blunted by canny deployment by my opponent
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 30 2017 22:27
And FW necrons done.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 30 2017 23:13
this is very silly:
I have fallen even more in love with the hemlock ever since I discovered it was basically a warlock in addition to a tankbuster