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7th
Jul 2017
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:38
Has anyone had success with adding Categories to selections within an army list selection?
E.g., take Jump Pack, get Fly keyword?
I am finding that giving the entry in the list the given Category I want applied to the parent doesn't seem to "bubble up" (or be reflected in any way).
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:48
O, ye sages of 40k files, does this work? What am I missing?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 02:52
What are you trying to accomplish?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:54
Add category to unit with wargear selection.
Default selection gives one Category, other selections give other categories.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 02:55
Ok, just check the catagory on the wargear. But why do you need it to "bubble up" as you say
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:56
I need it to apply to the parent so that it unhides other stuff under said parent.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 02:56
Check for "instance of"?
Although idk if you can use that with all children
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:58
I'm doing "Ancestor not instance of"
... and setting hidden to true in such cases.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 02:58
Is there a reason to check against the catagory and not if wargear >1?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 02:59
Yeah, these are basically army wide special rules that apply to like half of the units in the army.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 03:00
Brief description?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 03:00
Legiones Astartes. Possessed by all Infantry, Jump Infantry, Jetbikes, Bikes, Artillery, etc.
Each Legion has its own variant.
Some of these variants work differently or don't apply based on the above categories.
E.g., By Wing and Talon from the XIXth. Infantry get Stealth and Infiltrate, Terminators, Bikes, and Jetbikes get Furious Assault (we still think this should be Furious Charge, but they keep repeating the typo).
So, a Legion Centurion (think captain) can take a Jump Pack, Bike, or Jet Bike.
This effects which version(s) of By Wing And Talon should show for him.
This is just one of the 18 examples.
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 03:05
Triggering based on Category is preferable since it avoids repeated re-implementation.
It works great for cases unlike characters (whose Unit Type mirroring Category can change based on Wargear).
I wonder if it will work if I make the Wargear a Model instead of and Upgrade, or if its position in the hierarchy is causing it not to work?
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 03:15
Maybe I will have to add the special rule UNDER each selection, therefor its Ancestor will have the correct Category, even if it isn't shown in output.
This seems pretty hacky.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 03:16
hmmm… id have to play around with it to figure it out.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 03:49
@cartag I chased off an idiot for you
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 03:54
in his defence that one tripped me up as well initially. more teething issues for 8th
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 04:04
conundrum you might have suggestions for: I have 240 points left in my Jetdar TAC list. I'm having trouble deciding what to fill it with, since I think I have most bases covered well and want to stick with units that move fast and fly to keep the theme.
http://puu.sh/wDy5x/fad26c79fb.png
Ignore the points at the top, was playing with wargear
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:00
BSData/wh40k#695 well.. something needs to be done.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 07:01
Yeah I just saw that. Wtf is going on?
@cartag @amis92 #695
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:03
thats the same guy that wrote you about abusing power, no?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 07:05
I actually suggest you delete your reply to him. Only will make it worse
Amis just needs to deal with that
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:06
yeah probably right
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 07:07
And we're you talking about the guy that made the big post about collective unit in SM?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:16
dunno, but this is the same guy that accused alphalas of abuse of power
...
can I tell him he'S a dick NOW?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 07:20
No it wasn't me. No just leave it be.
Don't agitate the situation. It only feeds him
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:22
I've been too far away from forums unlike dakka... #1 rule - dont feed the troll #2 Godwin's law applies if you don't stick to #1.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 07 2017 07:24
Lol. Well I closed it, but ragged Amis in chat. He'll get to it. It's bed time for me.
*tagged
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 07:27
https://regimental-standard.com/2017/07/05/enriching-activities-for-idle-hands/
They're killing it! Anyone else found the "hidden" word? :P
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 07:35
There are a few unlisted words in the main word search as well
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 08:11
Ekhm. Thanks for bringing this to my attention folks. I'll try diplomacy as this is most likely to succeed. In case of failure, ban it is.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:19
it is sad that it has come to that
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 08:21
What's the situation with FW Adeptus Astartes? @miproductions Do you have pending changes to sync before I start editing it?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:25
phew that was close, I started writing a response, then I decided to delete it, I'll let amis handle it, since he's "the boss" :wink:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:36
@WindstormSCR you could try some Shadow Spectres (when they come back in stock) a Warp Hunter?? a phoenix and a nightwing? or some Hornets :smile: plenty of options
you don't seem to have much tank hunting power, so possible a couple of Hornets with pulse lasers??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:47
"It's fine. I've already reported you to GW legal. Let's hope they C&D you like the rest."
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:48
@amis92 nice response, wtf is this guy on - reporting us to GW while hoping for a C&D?!?!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:48
Cunting dickhead.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:48
true, but should we be at all concerned?? could / would GW do anything??
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 08:49
No
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:49
Nah.
if they want, they'd have done so ages ago.
Do you honestly think they'd go after Chapterhouse as they did and leave us alone?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:50
well, as previously discussed, no :smile: but always just to make sure something hasn't changed that I'm not aware of...
also, that's just plain nasty, if GW did try a C&D for battlescribe it would make life difficult for thousands of people
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:51
GW, especially GW legal, isn't living under a rock. They know we're here for years... some cat bacon cunt ain't gonna suddenly stir them to action.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 08:51

It's two parts here for us. First off, we do not provide license. There's just no simple way to accuse us of distributing it, because we don't.

Second is, we do not have profit, and do not take any money.

Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:51
good and good
also, @Thairne exactly which "hidden word" were you referring to, there are several in that wordsearch, I had a quick look and I've found three easily...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:53
"hydradominatus"
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 08:53
And even if they send GitHub C&D and the service itself takes action (deletes the repo), git repos are like hydra, decentralised and regrowing. We won't be offline for long. They'd have to do a complex action involving taking down both appspot and our organization.
Haha hydra
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 08:54
yup, that's the one I found
and that's what I thought but always good to check the defences are still intact
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 08:55
This last comment makes me wonder, might this be the guy from that taken-down-so-nice builder webapp?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 08:55
@Thairne , @FarseerVeraenthis , "sacrifice" is in there as well if you can find it. :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 08:55

its right in plain sight, that makes it even funnier.. the irony of the infiltrators infiltrating a freakin word puzzle and then being that obvious.. with the departemento missing that... the irony!

it is? good one!

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 09:12
nah, i dont think he's from the other app builder, that would be giving him too much credit. more likely he was a fan of it and is blaming BS for it's shutdown
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 09:13
some connection can be assumed though.. the timing of his appearance is suspicious. But how could one blame BS for someone elses' mistakes?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 09:14
this is the internet, people are strange
( @ilaunchbury - sacrifice is on the list anyway... :wink:)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 09:17
SECRETLY HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT!!!
d'oh
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 09:21
heheheheh!!!!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 09:36
@amis92 who was the dude that came in here immediately after "that web app list builder" received the C&D, he was asking about the legality of BS Data and so on, is this the same dude?? (don't bother to scroll back up unless you really have nothing to do, I just wondered)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 09:38
dont think its the same dude, i remember the other one had something like "dragon" in his name and had a non-github avatar
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 09:46
righto, perhaps the same dude made another profile or something, or there are a group of twits with a bee in their bonnet about BS Data...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 09:50
Yeah, it's whatever. He's clearly not willing to be civil, so I would just block him and move on. If he decides he wants to be helpful, he can still report bugs via appspot.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 09:55

He can also report non bugs via appspot, like, you know, complaints. :) So let's try not blocking for a while.

Yeah I'm sure that wasn't him that long time ago. Checked his profile, doesn't look similar.

tekton
@tekton
Jul 07 2017 09:57
I know it's a couple days late (been traveling) @WindstormSCR but Purgation Squads teleporting around the map have been the most successful form of anti-lots-of-wounds I've had with GK so far.
James
@miproductions
Jul 07 2017 10:02
@Crowbar90 no mate it's all yours I was scared off by the merge issues
went back to painting my angries
tekton
@tekton
Jul 07 2017 10:07
Time to go explore Limerick and then get back to the GK bugs (I caused a long time ago) and wait for the GK codex...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 10:16
are we good to go on a release, or is anyone about to commit something?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 10:28
go for a release
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 10:28
already done :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 10:28
@Crowbar90 shall I update the wiki to have you as keeper for the FW Space Marines?
fabulous :+1:
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 10:30
@miproductions lol good :)
@FarseerVeraenthis Sure, as long as everyone is ok with it :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 10:31
SOLD. to the purple space invader
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 10:49
I just noticed that <b> doesn't work anymore in BS output... Is it still possible to print something in bold?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 10:49
nope, html tags are escaped now
which includes line breaks, which is annoying
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 10:51
Too bad
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jul 07 2017 10:58
Been meaning to ask @GenWilhelm specifically with the bid codex, not sure if it happens in othefs
I'll try that again
In the nid catalogue, when you do minimal out put on any model that has no options "swarmlord"etc It doesn't include the weapons on the unit profile, They are in the summary in the bottom, but unless you know what has what weapons to start there is no reference to which model whas what weapons
Is that part of the design standards, or weapon profiles being in the wrong place
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 11:02
That's part of minimal output behavior. "Default" items are cut out.
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Jul 07 2017 11:02
I thought so, but wanted to check
Is there a way to get defaults in the list, but the weapon profiles in a group at the bottom
Don't worry advanced options :D
cartag
@cartag
Jul 07 2017 11:24
The guy had been calling other users dumb for using PL in their bug reports after being shut down in his request for 1) hiding PL across the board, and 2) since we wouldn't possibly break how the data files work for end users to make his life easier. All I did was change his reply I the thread to look like he was praising PL, saying it's the best thing GW has ever done.
I'm not saying shit though on git
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 07 2017 11:26
Oh, I don't blame you. He seemingly has absolutely no sense of humor. Which makes communications over internet very, very unpleasant. -.-
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 11:29
Hmm guys, I have a quick question about "best practice" in writing datafiles
James
@miproductions
Jul 07 2017 11:30
@Crowbar90 do let me know if you want me to do bits here and there but it's all you
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 11:30
In all my files, I've put every profile (unit or weapons) as shared, then linked to them from a shared selection entry and then linked that entry in the units using it
I see some other files create a new (non-shared) profile inside the entries when there aren't any other entries using it
James
@miproductions
Jul 07 2017 11:32
I think the best practice wiki says create everything shared
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 11:32
Yeah, that's why I did it this way
But I'm not sure if "everything" should also include "profile which are used only in one entry, which is shared itself"
James
@miproductions
Jul 07 2017 11:33
  1. Catalogues SHOULD define all profiles and rules as shared and link to them where needed.
er, 2.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 11:33
SHOULD - ie. do it unless you have a good reason not to
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 11:33
Ok, good. I have no good reasons, so I'll keep everything shared
Just wanted to be sure :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 11:34
my policy is if works and looks nice, just be consistent
cartag
@cartag
Jul 07 2017 11:34
I think somebody is too used to getting his way. I would love to just fuck with him until he goes away and realizes it's not worth it, but I'll behave lol
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 11:36
Oh and @miproductions thank you :) I'll let you know if I need any help!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 11:38
yeah, it seems like he's not too happy about being told "no". i tend to ignore people who get very upset, responding just tends to escalate things
especially when they're as condescending and passive aggressive as this particular character
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jul 07 2017 12:10
why doesn't missile launchers have an AA missile? It would at least make airspam a teeny bit less enticing :/
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:15
flakk missiles used to be S7 AP4 skyfire, didnt they? so a direct port would be S7 AP-1 +1 to hit vs FLY, which sounds worse than krak most of the time
M4uler
@M4uler
Jul 07 2017 12:21
Aye, I think creating everything as Shared is the best way - you end up with like micro repositories in the CAT then and it's easy and fast to find stuff to change
Plus one change does multiple units if linked :+1:
I'm plodding through my own separate FW Chaos CAT, how far did you guys get with it? There's a LOT of stuff :'(
cartag
@cartag
Jul 07 2017 12:23
Heretic artistes FW is done
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jul 07 2017 12:23
@GenWilhelm, well, let's not make a direct port then :P Tbh, plasma guns looks like the best bang/buck
M4uler
@M4uler
Jul 07 2017 12:25
Oh nice work Cart :)
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 12:27
What about Grey Knights / Inquisition / Sisters of Battle stuff in FW index? Should they go in FW Adeptus Astartes catalog or in a separate one?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:29
theyre already in their parent CAT i believe
@Szeras i cant think of a way to make them better vs aircraft without making them better than frag/krak against other things
unless you give it a super specific ability like "+1 damage vs units with supersonic"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 12:34
why not just units with the keyword FLY?
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jul 07 2017 12:35
yeah, I can see the conondrum there
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 12:38
@amis92 the most hilarious part about the asshole is that if he'd have bothered to check mobile files, 90% of the units don't have full PL yet because I'm so behind
@tag8833 I'm not sure if this is one of yours, but from the sound of it he just can't read: BSData/wh40k-mobile-format#73
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:43
its the same guy who cant seem to add together 3 numbers to find the total cost of a unit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 12:44
Pretty sure there are more than one of those ;)
why are FW orks such a mess
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:45
but i mean specifically for ork artillery
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 12:45
its like an actual ork wrote the entries
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:45
and yeah, IA Xenos is a rushed mess
orks seem to have the worst of it though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 12:45
at least the eldar section was better than others for consistency
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 12:46
at least their aircraft can actually fire their weapons
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 07 2017 12:46
only real standout anomaly is the scorpion pulsars, and that's an easy fix since every other full-size pulsar is D6 damage
M4uler
@M4uler
Jul 07 2017 13:24
FW's errata for that book will be 25% of the book :'(
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 13:37
Soooo here I go with another implementation question
Krieg combat shotguns have two profiles. What's the best way to implement/represent this?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 13:39
two separate profiles on the entry
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 13:39
like plasma weaponry
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 13:39
....d'oh, right. That's pretty blatantly obvious. Thanks y'all.
You ever facepalm at yourself?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 07 2017 13:40
Facepalm.jpg
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 13:40
usually you should have the weapon name in the profile so you might have "Shotgun (Slug Rounds)" and "Shotgun (Shot Rounds)"
depending on what the different profiles are
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 13:45
Technically they're called "solid shot" and "carcass shot". They should be called "solid shot" and "suicide rounds"
Also I'd just like to point out that working on the DKOK cat has been a very enlightening experience and has made me truly appreciate all the work that everyone puts in to making this happen. Also it's given me a new level of appreciation for how BS works and how it's implemented and how it handles the complexities and data structures involved.
So :+1: y'all.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 14:06
cheers me dears :smile: :+1: now you probably also understand why negative comments can provoke an emotional reaction... constructive criticism is useful, otherwise it's just not helpful!
oh, also, @Crowbar90 I updated the wiki, so you're now the maintainer for the FW SM CAT
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 07 2017 14:08
Yeah I saw that :)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:16
@FarseerVeraenthis, should the FW Aeldari units be in the Ynnari cat, or is that just not done yet?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 14:25
....
Okay, y'all....one more time
I'm gonna do some copypasta here
FU-engineers.PNG
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 14:30
@ilaunchbury they should be, and they will be, once @USSX-Hares completes the merge of all the Aeldari CAT's which creates the Ynnari CAT
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 14:31
I mean, first of all, just how weak are these Kriegers that it takes two of them to carry a heavy flamer? But second...just how would that work?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:31
ok, no worries. Was just checking the ones you added since I did that bugrep. I've only found 1 issue :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 14:31
fabulous
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:32
@CrusherJoe have a separate entry called "Death Korps Weapon Team" or whatever and decrement min and max models in the group when it's selected
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:32
one carries the flamer and the other carries the tank of promethium?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:32
@CrusherJoe look at HWTs in infantry squads in AM or Elys
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 14:33
Right on, thanks guys
@alphalas THERE IS LIGHT at the end of the tunnel
:)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:34
good - don't worry about the stuff on the may take list at the beginning of the kriegers list - i'll get all that nonsense.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:35
and yet a regular guardsman veteran can carry one all by himself
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:36
they're kriegers - they have to do everything in the most backasswords way possible.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 14:36
More to the point, a single Sister can carry one all by herself :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:36
and usually inflicting the most pain on themselves - not that they feel it.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:36
sisters have power armour though...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:36
^
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:36
that probably helps
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 14:37
And since I used Krieger, now I'm picturing them all like Krieger from Archer. Greeeeaaaaat.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:38
in one of the crusade for armageddon books, you're following a platoon of kasrkin, and at one point they're interacting with kriegers. it's kriegers mixed in with other regiments, and guardsmen are getting trenchfoot and shit and getting amputations. and the kriegers were all like oh, yeah, loosing 3 toes isn't that bad.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:38
hmmm, hadnt though about it till now. can the team still fire its lasgun in addition to the heavy weapon?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:39
one lasgun yes.
because a HWT specifically has 1 lasgun and the HW
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:39
nice, small buff to weapon teams
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:40
krieger sniper teams are kinda weird too
sorry thinking of elysians not kriegers.
elysian sniper teams form HWTs too - one sniper one lasgun.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:41
yeah, krieg dont use cowardly long-ranged weapons
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:41
that makes sense though, sniper and a spotter.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:41
it's not that they're cowardly - you just can't be constantly advancing with snipers
that's just like krieger infantry squads don't get HWTs - they're too constantly on the move to have a MG along with them.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 07 2017 14:43
maybe that's why there are two men carrying the flamer, it makes them quicker
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 07 2017 14:45
quite possibly.
tekton
@tekton
Jul 07 2017 14:50
@Crowbar90 The stuff in GK FW cat should be in shared; I think one thing wasn't (since the FW units are just in the GK cat) but if you see something that needs changing/updating let me know.
James
@skonk
Jul 07 2017 14:52
Everyone looking forward to the FW faq hitting this weekend? :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 07 2017 14:52
basically reprinting the books?
tekton
@tekton
Jul 07 2017 14:54
@GenWilhelm one can only hope...
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 15:03
I expect numerous stubborn, defensive comments refusing to errata.
James
@skonk
Jul 07 2017 15:43
heh]
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 18:24
I will be pleased to be mistaken, but I don't see them fixing things like Corsairs now requiring jetpacks and no longer getting to take or use Transports.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 20:15
what, and the fact that the Corsairs don't have an HQ either...
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 21:45
Are the FW FAQs out?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 21:45
shrug
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 21:47
I don't see them, so I don't get your point.
Oh, you typed HQ, and I read FAQ.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 21:47
as in, I don;t know, are they out??
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 21:47
Is an HQ required in 8th?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 21:48
hmmm... pretty much every detachment requires an HQ
yup, just checked my rulebook (still beautiful btw) and the only way to include a unit of corsairs would be as an Auxiliary support detachment, at -1CP
unless you built a Ynnari detachment / army
or Aeldari Soup
so, they're not completely useless, but as @skonk has mentioned before - they have lost all their flavour
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 07 2017 21:56
Flavor, and squatted most people's entire armies.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 21:58
that too, #waitforthecodex but that could be a long wait...
James
@skonk
Jul 07 2017 22:00
I wish BS would let us copy/paste units
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 07 2017 22:00
erm, it does... well, the data editor does
James
@skonk
Jul 07 2017 22:01
with the new detachments, i always find myself starting a battalion and then realising i could split the elites and heavy support out and form 1 or 2 other detachments for more CP
could be great if we could just cut/paste them to the other detachments
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 07 2017 22:02
Save them as favorites?
I think that's what I used to do with TWC and the like
James
@skonk
Jul 07 2017 22:04
Yeh i guess that would do it but it's a bit of a faff to do it that way for lots of units