These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

11th
Jul 2017
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 11 2017 08:47 UTC
just as a final comment about the wiki, I intend to leave the "assumed amendments" as an open issue, because I think it's easier to update/track it there than in the wiki :smile:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 14:30 UTC
can someone check something for me?
Do CSM Bikers have a special weapon option in the master?
I was working on them earlier and they had one, and now it seems to have disappeared...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 14:32 UTC
yeah, i can see it. but theres an open issue where they're force to replace their combi-bolter when they don't have to
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 14:33 UTC
yeah, which is what I was trying to fix. Now, whatever I do, I can't see it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 14:33 UTC
its on the actual bike model, not the unit level
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 14:34 UTC
yeah, I know. It's just not showing in my data files at all. I've deleted everything and started from scratch but it's just not there.
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That's what I see in the options. I'm sure that it had a separate section for boltgun options earlier.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 14:39 UTC
you mean like the champion has?
was there a new FAQ, because i can't see what #756 is talking about?
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Jul 11 2017 14:41 UTC
Is there a way to reference parent force in BattleScribe? I currently got Relic validation working but only if FW Adeptus Astartes is the parent catalogue (checking in Force and children for other units)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 14:42 UTC
no, it had a selection group of "boltgun options" which contained a boltgun number selector, plus a "special weapons" selection group.
Maybe I'm just going insane...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 14:43 UTC
maybe it was on the mobile format files?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 14:53 UTC
nope, not there. I literally have no idea what was going on there.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:15 UTC
well, I've fixed it in the right way now. They shouldn't even have boltguns!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:18 UTC
what, the bikers?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:19 UTC
yes
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:19 UTC
they should have a combi-bolter on their bike
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:20 UTC
yes, and they do.
The Champion had one (which is now gone) and I swear that earlier I had a version of the files where the standard bikers did too.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:22 UTC
oh the champion, surely he can just trade in his pistol for one?
oh i just had a look, yeah he has both a pistol and a boltgun, whereas he's only supposed to have one
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:24 UTC
yeah, he can choose a boltgun, but he doesn't have one by default.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:25 UTC
you realise, to solve the special weapon issue, you could have just raised the max in the original weapon group to 2
so it doesnt complain if you dont deselect the the combi-bolter
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:26 UTC
no, because they can't swap the combi-bolter AND take an extra one.
special weapon
You can't have two special weapons on one model.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:27 UTC
yeah, keep the special weapons at 1, but bump the "combi-bolter options" to 2
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:30 UTC
Personally, I like the checkbox better than a number roller to make it obvious that you can only have one or the other.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:32 UTC
but the point is you can take both?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:34 UTC
The rule is you can either swap the combi-bolter for a special weapon OR you can take a special weapon as well.
So I've implemented it so it's obvious that those are your options.
Having it all in one selection would make it confusing in my opinion.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:37 UTC
i was just thinking its easier if you want to swap between having the c-b or not
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:37 UTC
I'd love to see BS implement something better for inserting extra options into a pick list.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 15:38 UTC
or just let us change the default selection with a modifier
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 15:38 UTC
Yeah, that would be good.
then you could use hidden options based on ancestor and force the default to the hidden option.
when the ancestor is there.
cartag
@cartag
Jul 11 2017 20:00 UTC
I see there are multiple people wanting to do chaos. I'm stepping away, I'm toxic and ruin everything I touch. I'm not sure if I'll be back.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 11 2017 20:02 UTC
I think people are just trying to help out fella
you've got a massive burden, let alone the CAT's you created and maintain...
cartag
@cartag
Jul 11 2017 20:04 UTC
It's unrelated to that actually. I'm crying my eyes out at work because anything I do isn't enough (depression is fun!) And I'm extremely hard on myself
I need to learn when to step back. I think this is then
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 11 2017 20:05 UTC
yeah, definitely, if you choose to step away and look after yourself for a while that's cool - as long as you don't feel pushed away...!!
we're here to help though, plenty of support here, even if you choose not to maintain the CAT's any longer, we still care :smile:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 11 2017 20:29 UTC
@cartag, I saw before that you wanted to take a step back for a while, so was just helping out. If you need a break for a while, take it easy and come back refreshed.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2017 22:13 UTC
Hey didn't the FAQ change a storm bolter to 2 points for Ministorum?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 11 2017 22:19 UTC
hey @CloverFox i added you as a collaborator so you can work on aMin - i'm sick again and will probably be down for a few days.
and @GenWilhelm if you wanna knock out those 2 AM bugs go for it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 11 2017 22:21 UTC
i'll grab it in the morning if its still there
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jul 11 2017 22:57 UTC
@alphalas thanks, get well soon
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 11 2017 22:58 UTC
Maybe one day I'll learn to stop putting things from China in my mouth
Strep again - pretty sure I'm getting it from resin -.-
But it's resin stuff I've gotten third or fourth hand so probably contaminated in country
Fran├žois Beaulieu
@francoisbeaulieu
Jul 11 2017 23:43 UTC
@cartag if you decide not to come back; thanks for all the hard work! We appreciated it!