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16th
Jul 2017
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 16 2017 00:10
Safest to assume Reecius got his way and Corsairs are squatted.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 16 2017 00:18
Idk who does Tau, but the named ethereal is missing special rules.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 16 2017 01:15
@CrusherJoe y'all inside?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 01:31
Honestly
the scorpion pulsar is a better change than the variable damage
sure the max isn't a Huuuge, but the output is vastly more reliable
SN00PS
@SN00PS
Jul 16 2017 10:03
Hi, is there a list anywhere of current missing data for 40k?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 16 2017 10:36
What do you mean...? There is the issues list on github...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 10:37

Seriously, FW?!

They "fixed" something for XV109 Y'vahra (Escape Thrust) but didn't actually fix it, 'cause you still can't use the ability. (Reactor is used in movement phase, Escape Thrust is at the beginning of Movement phase). Like, seriously.

James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 10:54
And this prevents you why?
The beginning of the phase is still in the phase
just means you have to declare you are using the reactor at the start and lift the model off the board
the other reactor option can be used later at any time during the phase
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 11:00
Doesn't the FAQ just change when you bring the model back in? as in it wrongly said to bring it back at the start of the next movement phase and now it says at the end?
So it matches all other rules for models entering play during the game
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 11:17
No, the beginning of the phase is before anything that happens in the phase.
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 11:17
It states this in the main rules?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 11:17
99% sure, just have to find it
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 11:18
I think you're over thinking it
During the movement phase = any time in the phase, start of the movement phase = before you move your models, end of the movement phase = after you moved your models
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 11:23
We already do stuff at the end of the movement phase, such as bringing in reserves.... never seen anyone try to suggest that you are not still in the movement phase when you do this.
It's just the last set of actions you perform during the phase
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 11:24
Yeah, I can't find it. Must've mistaken it with IDK, previous editions or some other game with a little stricter set of rules ;D
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 11:24
:)
Really hope they hurry with the other codex releases.
Because there is a whole lot of power advantage in that book.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 16 2017 12:08
easy solution: decline all games against SM players :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 16 2017 12:09
I also hope they were smart and made relics still cost points
and not just hand them out like candy as per AOS
Because then I really would consider declining any SM games.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:07
I'm just hoping the RG chapter tactics make a fluff list for them viable but not "Kauyon-level" overpowered
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 15:13
I'm just torn now - paint the primaris I'm getting as BA (bright shiny Duncan style BA to contrast my dark 30k BA) or do BT?
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:13
Paint them pink and use them as either :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:14
I'd say go BA if you've already got them
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:14
did u spot the new models in the image on the community article btw?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:14
the aggressors?
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:14
nop
I wonder what those are in the jump guys hands....
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:15
interesting
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:15
I don't play SM's so I may be wrong but are there some new HQ's in that image too?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:16
not that haven't been released
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:17
Ah ok
I guess I've just not seen that Chaplain model before
or the Apothecary
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:24
they've had teasers
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:30
Agressors look pretty fugly though
I was expecting something more like cyclones
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:32
heh
I quite like them
they look like they could be chaos'd up nice to use as Obliterators or something
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 15:36
now that would be a more interesting conversion
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 15:38
They have tau missile pods on their backs
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 15:39
I'd cut the missiles off and stick some spikes there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 15:39
I really like the new chap and apothecary
Not a fan of the inceptor plasmas
tekton
@tekton
Jul 16 2017 16:15
The plasma ones are indeed a bit "meh"...if I'm honest I'll still be getting them and painting at least a few. It's still a little funny being the only Ultramarines player I know in this area :P
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 16:25
I'm going to get at least some of the plasma inceptors, since I play flier/speeder heavy Raven Guard with a plasma fetish
8th ed has been good in that respect at least
tekton
@tekton
Jul 16 2017 16:28
it's been interesting mixing the ultra marines with grey knights at times; rather looking forward to the codex books to come out for everyone to see if we get the classic "released last is far more powerful" or if they really did write them at the same time and are just staggering releases (which there was a comment made by a GW employee when I was there last week that)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 16 2017 16:52
When can we expect SM leaks??
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 16:56
probably more tomorrow from GW on the community site
they've apparently found out that hype generation = sales
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 17:05
damnit i lost my reiver rules already
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 17:15
they any good in play?
seemed meh at best to me
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 17:16
havn't playtested them yet - but i lost the booklet lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 17:16
print out the photo/scan?
I mean, you have the models
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 17:17
is there a good scan?
idk lol
Gisle Jaran Granmo
@Szeras
Jul 16 2017 17:24
checked r/warhammerinstructions?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 17:43
never have any luck there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 18:13
naw that's just the points. thanks thought lol
love how the rules in the box say 3 reivers, but that says 5-10 lol
zopha
@zopha
Jul 16 2017 18:22
Does anyone know does Appspot take the "Latest release" on github or the newest (in relation to release date)? For releases.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 18:24
oldest first - you do 6 releases in a row it'll take it 3 days to release them all.
zopha
@zopha
Jul 16 2017 18:25
Ugh, okay. I'm going to guess it does this with renamed releases as well.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 18:26
probably
zopha
@zopha
Jul 16 2017 18:27
@alphalas I remember other people have lost instructions/books or never got them in the box and emailed GW. They've send on a PDF.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 18:28
they do that, I got the fire prism instructions that way when they weren't in the start collecting box
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 16 2017 18:29
:+1:
i'll give that a shot.
zopha
@zopha
Jul 16 2017 18:32
Well, theres 3 renamed releases and one real (minor release) Hopefully won't break appspot again :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jul 16 2017 20:30
what scares me about the Codex: Space Marines preview is the following comment: "Again, these are going to reward disciplined and careful list building..." Tailoring your army to beat your opponent as opposed to effective use of tactics on the battlefield... I need to get some 8th Ed games in
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 20:40
Hey guys quick question, I got rusty with data editor and BS bugs
How to hide a linked profile?
'cause I have two and have to show one depending on who takes the Shield Drone
normal Riptide or Y'vahra/R'varna
(because Forge World fixed shield drones - they gained feel no pain but only for R'varna and Y'vahra LOL)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 21:11
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That's what I've got and the result is that neither profile shows :(
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 16 2017 21:26
are the conditions looking for entries or links?
in my experience conditions based on links tend to be inconsistent
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 16 2017 21:33
also, looking at your logic, the "instance of" and "not instance of" should be swapped, and the group with "not" should be AND, rather than OR
which makes me think, are the profiles set to hidden by default?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 21:44
  • Conditions are entry-not-link based
  • No, they're not hidden (profiles)
  • You're right they should actually be inversed xD
But why AND not OR?
Oh wait, I know.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 16 2017 21:51
i'm just wondering why this is necessary
the r'varna cant even take MV52 drones
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jul 16 2017 21:54

Yeah, that was my bad. Removed it already.

But Y'vahra can. And Shadowsun has these MV52 too, but she doesn't get that fancy 5+ fnp on her drones, only Y'vahra gets.

Also THX, works perfectly now.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 16 2017 21:56
:+1:
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 22:25
decided to paint a helbrute int he 30k death guard scheme... feck me its taking me ages
too much trim
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 22:45
can see the end of the tunnel tho now
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 16 2017 23:51
looks damn good
James
@skonk
Jul 16 2017 23:58
ta :)