These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

31st
Jul 2017
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 31 2017 00:35
What is it about people filing anon bug reports having the capacity to find such demanding wording that the gut reaction is to say "well fuck off then" and leave it be?
tekton
@tekton
Jul 31 2017 02:20
^ @WindstormSCR yes.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 31 2017 02:59
Oh young padawan
Welcome to working with the public.
In short. They’re cunts, the whole lot of them.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 04:16
anyone have C:SM epub yet?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 04:16
@/all does anyone have the beastclaw raiders epub form AoS?
Klas Hammarström
@klibb_twitter
Jul 31 2017 08:37
@alphalas any eta on the you will be rolling out the next update to include the flyers for AM? (Fingers crossed for no more power outage;)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jul 31 2017 13:16
I'm gonna take care of my bugs soon.. after coming back from vacation on sat I got struck down by a cold. Once the psyker does not try to crush my head anymore, I'll get to it..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 31 2017 13:26
we got our old man back! hope you're better soon :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 17:25
bless you my child
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 17:33
nice one
any idea what people use to convert these to pdf?
ive tried before and everything i tried failed with the GW books
but someones managed to do em cos mega has every index up as epub and pdf, with the pdf's having fully working links and stuff
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all my new shit turned up today..... i may have overdone it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 31 2017 17:41
that desktop background shows which faction truly has your heart ;P
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 17:43
heh
ya know....
i actually photoshopped the nipples out of that image
its bad enough if certain people see my screen with on, as in it would be awkward.... so to try to mitigate it a tad i un-nippled it
btw have you seen how Grey Knights can have that grand master whats his face in a Dread Knight now?
the codex will have a data sheet for it
but theres no model for that
next months white dwarf shows you how to convert one
so like...... what happened to not having units in the dex that they dont sell models for.....
tekton
@tekton
Jul 31 2017 17:50
aren't there still sister models they don't sell anymore? or a transport...I'm also waiting/assuming they're just going to announce a model for it "soon" and that's just a conversion for those that already have multiples (heck I have two that are still waiting since I was hoping for 'knight hq finally)
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 17:51
it's just a slap in the face for some folk
they removed the option for the white scars leader guy to have a bike for example
cos they dont sell him on a bike....
tekton
@tekton
Jul 31 2017 17:53
i also don't want to have to buy a second voldus just to have the "right" hq; I'll mod it in different ways if that's the case
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 17:54
:)
I can see the CSM dex removing loads of stuff
Lord and Sorc on Bike, with Jump Pack, on Juggernaut, on Palaquin, on Disc etc
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 17:58
ah brill thanks :)
easier to use on a PC the pdf's
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jul 31 2017 17:58
nicer for searching yeah
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 31 2017 18:48
@GenWilhelm bless you good sir. You are a man among men!
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Jul 31 2017 19:50
Anyone in the Heresy events at LVO or NoVA?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 31 2017 19:51
Really! 7 legions of CSM to write. I didn't want any free time.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 19:52
welcome to @cartag's pain
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 19:55
I haven't read the WC post yet. I'm going to assume they are breaking out all 7?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 31 2017 19:56
no, there are 7 in Codex Chaos. DG and 1KSons are getting individual codexes
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 19:57
Well it might not be as bad as 7th if it's close to smoke chapter tactic now
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 31 2017 19:57
Emperor’s Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Alpha Legion, Black Legion, Word Bearers and the Renegade Chapters (whatever they are) are all in C:CSM.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 19:57
*SM
I'm afraid to look in the issue queue after work today for space marines 😧
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jul 31 2017 19:59
there are ALL the issues for you. :)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 20:01
Yeah... I get email notifications too. So after seeing 200+ unread I skimmed thru them. I was a bit disheartened
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 20:05
at least there's a fair bit of dupes there
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 21:14
i dont think much will change on the data sheets
possessed apparently get an extra wound for the same points cost tho
tekton
@tekton
Jul 31 2017 22:32
Some day I think a Night Lords army would be fun to make- it's the only Chaos chapter I've ever kind of wanted to do
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 22:40
Ok... No one touch SM please. Even that one that wants to fix things but can't atm.
tekton
@tekton
Jul 31 2017 22:41
I really want to make a joke at my own expense, but it seems in bad taste (even for me)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 22:45
There is bad joke. Only sensitive people
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:47
hello everyone
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 22:48
Hello
How are you
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:48
good, yourself?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 22:48
Good
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:50
I certainly understand you not wanting anyone messing with the file, especially someone you don't know
I'm definitely no stranger to this program though, wrote my own SM catalog last edition, So I'm happy to help fix bugs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 22:51
@acebaur there's also the fact that if he's already working on the cat, if someone commits something before he commits what he's working on, there will be conflicts in the XML
and jesus tits conflicts are a bitch'
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:51
rofl
there are definitely some oddities in the file that don't quite make sense to me though
like why are Crusader Squads locked behind CT?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 22:56
because they're BT only, probaby
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:56
well yes, but you can still field them in a detachment of Ultramarines
they just don't benefit from anything that affects ultramarines
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 22:57
are you sure?
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 22:57
you can put anything u like in a detachment as long as it's imperium
but it will break the rules from the codex
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 22:57
how so?
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 22:57
if you aint using codex rules then its fine
because if you look in the codex its states that to actually get chapter tactics,m everything in the detachment has to be of the same chapter
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 22:58
^that's what i was refering to
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 22:58
in terms of simply being battleforged, you can mix them all you like
but then you dont get the chapter tactics
as for the issue of them being hidden behind CT, you can just add a nested detachment and select the other legion and add them in
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 22:59
correct. also, if you dont select a tactic, or include the “unit” in the roster. everything is unlocked
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 22:59
its like with CSM, it's possible to run berserkers, noise marines, plague marines and berserkers all as troops.....
but since BS only lets us select 1 legion for a detachment
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:00
right you only lose CT by not having all one chapter
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 23:00
you would have to nest 4 detachments together, each with a different legion
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:00
but you can still run crusader squads without choosing a tactic
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:00
I designed chapter tactic to lock a tactic in and apply the rules/item restrictions for that chapter
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:01
that's fine, but then why are the characters all available without choosing a CT?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:01
also i took the weekend off from everything for my birthday. so… thats y nothing has been done yet. just happened to cross
James
@skonk
Jul 31 2017 23:02
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flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:02
because not chosing a CT unlocks everything… because you are not chapter bound
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:03
except crusader squads ;)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:03
well ill look. i just got home so im going to drudge thru the queue
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:04
no worries, happy birthday by the way!
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:04
ty
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:07
I have a couple of suggestions for streamlining a few things if you are open to them?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:09
im always open to listen
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:10
Well using the aforementioned Crusader squads, Sword Brother should just be defaulted to be taken like the Tac Sgt. No reason not to take one since they are free
also when adding a heavy or special weapon, have it add only the weapon's cost instead of another body so you don't have to adjust the count down if you only want 5 guys
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 23:12
first one is a good idea - second one is not.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:13
reason?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 23:13
official policy is always add model and weapon so you always exactly represent things. doing it your way leaves ambiguous buckets of upgrades.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:13
well not for every unit of course
units like veterans that can kit in multiple ways need to be individual
but where there is only one option like swap your bolter for one of these guns it makes it a little easier
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 23:14
No
I understand what you're saying; but it's a bad idea
We've gotten away from it, because of accuracy
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:16
accuracy for what the model is armed with?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:16
i also wont make the sword brother a default. it is an option, not manditory.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:17
but it's free? so why would you ever not take one?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:17
i didnt say they wouldnt
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 23:17
@acebaur yes
Also we have end users that would complain
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:18
we have to represent the rules 100% accurately.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 31 2017 23:18
Trust us, we (mostly) know what we're doing
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:19
Not saying you don't
and I get that some folks would complain
just on mobile it's a lot of extra clicks to make a 5 man unit, which is why I thought of it
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:21
It is better for us to just keep a consistent base line, represent the rules as best we can, and never make assumptions. I understand it can be a pain on mobile sometimes
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:22
fair enough
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:27
Well like I said I'm happy to help fix bugs as they occur, but I don't want to step on any toes
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:28
honestly… id like to give up deathwatch
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:30
any particular reason?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:31
i maintain SM. plus i work. and go to school.
Has nothing to do with DW itself
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:32
that's definitely a lot on your plate, I get it. I have a 4 year old lol
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jul 31 2017 23:32
yeah. plus gotta have some me time in there somewhere
so, if you are willing to help, i can pass on DW to you
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jul 31 2017 23:58
Sure, I can do that. I'll need to know how to upload revisions, etc.
I'm a SM player, so I'm happy to help you as well if you need a reprieve lol