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9th
Aug 2017
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 03:03
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Cubanis Sternwolf
@CubanoConGitHub
Aug 09 2017 04:01
Hey guys, just wanted to thank everyone here for the work you're doing on the repo.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 09 2017 12:26
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there's a photo of my Deathwatch army, including the Dark Angels detachment, at the end of my local Tale of Gamers extravaganza... That's 7 months of work for me, did I already mention I'm slow at painting?? :tongue:
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the second photo is higher quality (but still not exactly fabulous...)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 12:37
Are DW any good in 8th?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 09 2017 13:44
Well, mine weren't great in 7th, and I've only played one proper game of 8th and I got smashed - it was against iron hands bikes though...
But perhaps I'm just rubbish, or my dice don't like me... So don't take that as read :wink2:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 09 2017 13:46
your dice don't like you!! In my game on Monday, I successfully cast 1 psychic power because every time I rolled a test I got exactly the required number and everything got denied!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 09 2017 13:55
Hehehe! I have thought that :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Aug 09 2017 14:10
I
've just put out a release. Primaris for DA and BA seemed significant enough
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Aug 09 2017 14:26
:+1:
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 14:27
:ship:
Me myself and I.
@Entropy1986_twitter
Aug 09 2017 15:16
Appreciate the primaris on the da, starting to build mine up again after selling it all.
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 15:44
primaris marines.... are shite
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 15:51
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tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 16:14
Nice wings
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 16:54
Indeed, looking good @alphalas
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 09 2017 17:13
@CrusherJoe DW are actually pretty good, and access to a lot of the FW stuff has finally given options to patch the holes in their shooting game
also the power sword/bolter combo in the box is a hell of a lot better in 8th than 7th
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 17:48
I have the "team" from the DW boxed game (I picked up the models for super, super cheap) but they seem so disjointed and lack any unit of purpose I couldn't figure out how to use them correctly.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 09 2017 17:53
they are disjointed, its best to spread them out into other focused squads
They make great sergeant models though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 18:22
GW went to the randomized go first w/ +1 to roll for whoever finishes deployment first
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 18:23
Beg pardon?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 18:23
Also flyers cannot control objectives, period
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 18:23
Where are you seeing this?
Looks like CA will be the GHB everyone said it would be originally
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:27
Reece from frontline gaming hinted that the roll off with a +1 would be errata'd in
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 18:28
I still don't like the "fliers don't count for preventing being tabled"...
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:28
altho this just applies to the missions in the chapter approved book
yeh i dont like it
i like that they tried to fix the issues
i dont like how it punishes running any flyers at all
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 18:29
It doesn't really punish singular flyers
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:29
and i dont like the negative connotations it provokes towards anyone who wants to run a flyer
it does tho
a lot of flyers dont even fly
a CSM player could be tabled while having 2 helldrakes on
which dont have -1 to being hit
and have 1 gun with a short range
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 18:31
Now I might be overlooking something, but AFAIK only the heldrake suffers from this
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:31
while Nids could have a table full of flying monsters but none of them use the Flyer slot so arn't effected at all
in the end it could have been fixed easily without punishing someone for taking 1 or 2
they went from one extreme to another, when there were several middle grounds that would have solved it just fine
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:37
the all troops getting ObSec is great
could see that coming with the codexes but getting that out sooner is a good move
the games always feel more balanced when there are plenty of troops on to me
and this is a good way to get people using em
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 18:39
Agreed
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 18:41
So I also cant even score objectives with the drakes now
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 19:20
Keep in mind that I wasn't actually using my 2 drakes in 8th, tried one in one game and they're pretty meh outside of being useful to tie up a vehicle each turn to stop it shooting. The flyer errata from a while back made them even worse but the CSM book knocking 30 points off the flamer made sticking one in the list tempting again as a fast harassment unit that could nab objectives when needed. It's gone back top gathering dust again with this.
to^
It needs moving into the Fast Attack slot or giving "Hard to Hit"
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 19:53
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some hope i guess
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 19:55
nice
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 09 2017 21:52
tbh I think shifting to a roll off for first turn is a decent idea
some armies just don't have options
to reduce drop count enough
James
@skonk
Aug 09 2017 22:00
yeh
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:06
wonder if you can spend a command point on that roll...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:09
Morty.jpg
That, y'all, is some sick-ass shit right there.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:11
What is that from?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:11
It's all over the interwebz
It's Mortarian
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:12
I know it is lol. I just woke up from a nap :p
Looks like a WD pagr
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:15
That's what I'm thinking
Expect some kind of "official" thing from GW soon I would imagine, now that this "leak" has hit the streets
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:17
That Chapter Approved article was nice. Pretty much what ITC was do already
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:17
Okay y'all...my scouring of the dark underbelly of the Internet has failed to produce either C:HA or C:GK
@flakpanda agreed.
Hopefully the new-found viability will makes Troops more attractive and (hopefully) reduce the alpha-strike madness
Though I suspect it will not
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:18
Yeah. My guess is a Morty reveal this weekend/Soonish. Then next Saturday a DG pre-order.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:19
As we're fond of saying: "I don't need Troops if all the other models are dead."
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:19
Well, at least I'm bringing troops this time to WGC
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:19
The last list I made contains zero Troops
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:20
Still bringing 3 LoW tho, lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:20
Still part of the problem, huh? :)
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe high fives @flakpanda
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:20
You know it :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:21
My new list has both Celestine and Bobby G
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:21
My troops are still a part of the problem. x66 Brimstones
Is she protecting him?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:23
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Nah. She does what she does best: flies around and fucks things up
Bobby G hangs out in the back with las/hurriB cents and 2 other dev squads
Of course he'll deal with anything that dares to get too close...
Dear lord man 66 brimstones?
smh
Sure
Why not? :)
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:26
My guard friend had over 100 models on the table last night...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:26
Make sure and submit your list to wgcarmylists@gmail.com
(for points-checking, not for filth-checking...we have no limit on filth)
(okay that's not technically true, we aren't allowing PL31 and above)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:28
I think I'm playing the only PL 30 model
I haven't seen another yet
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:29
Playing Guard @flakpanda?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:29
No
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:30
What else is exactly 30PL? I haven't checked much to be honest
Dumb gitter mobile and no image sharing
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:32
ah, that would do it, thanks
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:32
What in AM is pl30?
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:33
Baneblade
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:33
Ah
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:33
Hellhammer is 31
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 23:33
Really? All the FW 'blades are cheaper then a BB?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:34
All the FW is undercost
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:34
The doomhammer, banesword, etc are also cheaper than the base baneblade
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 23:34
Ah all the casemate 'blades are cheaper then the 2 turreted ones
tekton
@tekton
Aug 09 2017 23:35
stormlord is also only 27- wishing inquisition had cheaper troops :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 23:35
That's dumb as hell - all the casemate 'blades are better then the BB/HH
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 09 2017 23:36
"wishing inquisition had troops" <-- there IFTFY
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 23:38
Is there any difference between an arkurian stormsword and a regular stormsword? I'm not seeing anything
And yes, I know I'm the data editor for this stuff and really should know it lol
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 09 2017 23:40
I need @ilaunchbury to finish FW chaos :(
@CrusherJoe do I have to pay by the 11 as well?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 09 2017 23:41
At least I finished FW AM lol