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25th
Aug 2017
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 05:37
Well, I found an awesome way to make corsairs out of kabalites
using reaver jetbike wing bits as a jetpack with a little work
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 06:08
think I might use some Reaver jetbikes and some spare war walker weapons from my wasp kits to make a squad of dark lance cloud dancers (because being an annoying git with them sounds like fun)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 25 2017 12:54
@/all guys… i might be dark for the next few days. im hoping i don’t loose power thought fingers crossed If anything happenes to pop up for SM, can someone take care of it. thx
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 12:55
I'll try not to break SM too badly before I go on holiday on Monday :)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Aug 25 2017 12:55
@flakpanda don't have too much fun!
;)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Aug 25 2017 12:56
fuck man, my step mom has me stressed out about this hurricane because she is stressing out bad
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Aug 25 2017 12:58
It's going to be wet. Work on staying safe. Don't drive in areas that you can't see the street. Bring batteries.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 25 2017 13:11
Don’t worry. 30” of rain means you can boat to work.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 25 2017 13:19
@flakpanda I was going to say stay safe and stay dry and if you need to bug out you and yours are welcome in my place in Austin
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 14:57
@GenWilhelm , on #1361, do you have any idea how to do that without implementing relics for each character individually? If I add a condition to the Shared Selection entry group, I can't select things like "power sword".
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 14:59
i dont know how CSM is implemented, i'll take a look in a min
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 15:01
I made a SSE group for the relics, same as in SM. I was going to do it the other way, but I realised I'd have to implement them on a per-character basis, which seemed like a massive PITA.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 15:12
it's possible, but not through the data editor
and it'll break if you click on the condition in the data editor
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 15:18
ugh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 15:20
as per usual, there aren't any elegant solutions
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 15:21
in that case, I'm going to leave it as is. There's no weapon validation in the SM cat either, so at least it's consistent
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 15:45
oh damn, i didnt notice that the group is only links. @cartag is right, you can do the validation on the entries. i was only looking at the links
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 16:53
Ok. I'll try and take a look later.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 18:19
Anyone know if SW are supposed to have access to Gravis Captains?
I'm guessing not, since they're not listed in the points section on the primaris pdf
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 25 2017 18:23
Lemme check Index
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 18:24
oh i forgot they were in the index, thought they were added with most of the other primaris
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 25 2017 18:25
No gravis cap is mr big belly from DI
Yes, as a wolf Lord
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 18:28
ty :+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 25 2017 18:49
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Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 25 2017 18:54
got i love 30k options lol
god
**
damn keyboard
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Aug 25 2017 18:55
I've been out a while. Do we have IPUB files for CSM and Grey Knights codexes?
assuming you mean epub @axisofentropy :P
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Aug 25 2017 19:09
yase thank u much
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:00
Random question if anyone is about. Finally got time to look at some of the SW bugs.
Do the non codex chapters like SW get access to the Primaris Squads in the SM Codex, or are they stuck using the ones in the index file?
The PDF doesn't really say

Hrm i guess it does, "The datasheets for the following units can be found within the models’ boxes:"

Which will be the same as the datasheets in the SM Dex i assume

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:02
yeah, pretty sure theyre identical to the codex datasheets
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:03
Well, it's kind of the same as Plague Marines. I haven't given the DG the new version, because they're on the Index still.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:05
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:06
yes, looks that way.
@GenWilhelm, I've got the validation working for #1361, based on the model having the correct weapon, but I can't work out how to hide the profile for the weapon it's replacing, like @cartag suggested?
I've uploaded it to a branch if you have time to take a look?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:15
you can't modify non-local entries
so you'd have to create local copies of each entry you wanted to modify
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:16
:(
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:16
@ilaunchbury just looking at #1348 any idea why it's producing the validation error? If deleting them and re-adding them fixes it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:16
absolutely no idea. It's real weird
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:17
strange
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:17
make sure the conditions are checking for entries, not links
conditions based on links do weird things
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:17
ah might be it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:17
I'm pretty sure I checked that, but it might be worth trying.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:19
swapped them from the links & seems to have fixed it, weird
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:22
@GenWilhelm, I tried that with the lightning claws (because it's already local), but if I make it a shared profile, I can't select the relic in the condition, and if I make it a direct profile, it just doesn't seem to work.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:24
Just looked at #1360 it would appear the Necron file has Keyword Profile types on units.
Is that something we're adding to everything now?
been out of the loop for a while
i guess it is, the keyword profile is in the gst
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:25
kohato added it for people to use if they wanted, I don't remember seeing a general "we're doing this now"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:26
yeah, i think kohato went ahead and did that, while the rest of us waited for a BScribe patch to fix category visibility
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:26
ahh ok, guess it seems like a good idea if Jon isn't going to patch BS
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:26
It's a lot of work to go through and redo them all, but if Jon is going to get BS to do it "soon", it's up to you if you want to
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:26
seems Jon has disappeared?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:27
He's probably busy working on #967 :)
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:28
Hah, that old chestnut. That idea has been floating around in one way or another for ages
Would probably work good for marine FW units too
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:28
sounds like it might actually get done now though
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:29
Awesome :D
Before i go through and check everything. Did someone apply the FAQ changes to the SW whilst i was away?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:31
i think simon did something, not sure
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 21:31
I saw he took care of a lot of the bugs. I'll check it over
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 21:35
@FarseerVeraenthis good one for you if you like the newer jetbikes. Apparently WHFB Cold One Knights are the same scale and arm socket as the windriders
made 5 shining spears and an autarch using 2 windrider kits and a single box of the knights
what is with the flipped images
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:45
@ilaunchbury i have no idea whats going on with hiding profiles with conditionals. i cant get it to fire based selections in parent no matter what i try
tautology.png
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:46
Ok. At least it's not just me then! I don't think it's the end of the world. Just a bit annoying.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:46
please someone tell me im insane, so i can move on with my day
that profile should always be hidden like that, shouldnt it?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:48
Looks that way to me
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 21:48
Hiding is finicky, I've found it doesn't like conditionals on the same level
if its a level above it seems to like it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:48
how do you mean?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 21:48
it's as if all the checks are done in parallel for the same layer
let me try something, just to make sure it isn't a BS bug
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 21:54
@GenWilhelm I don't think it's just you
whenever I try not equal to it just flat doesn't work
try a different operator and see if it works
I'm going to keep poking it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 25 2017 21:55
I'm calling it a night. If you work out how to get the profile hidden, post something up here and I'll pick it up tomorrow. Thanks both.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 25 2017 21:58
it works on entries, just not on profiles
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 25 2017 22:14
@penguin20000 I implemented the FAQ and primaris as best as I could, but because there were still bugs in the SM versions there will still be bugs in the SW versions... And @WindstormSCR I don't see a picture...? Anyway, sleepy time, just won another battle with my Deathwatch - that's two in a row!
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Aug 25 2017 22:15
Yeah, just going over it now. Seems to be all done so far :+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 22:16
@FarseerVeraenthis it keeps flipping, trying to rehost it so it doesn't
also I left you a corsairs bug, hoping it can be fixed by 9/2 since I'm hoping to run them in a tournament ;p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 25 2017 23:59
Stay safe texas folks