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28th
Sep 2017
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Sep 28 2017 08:51
#1541 gave me my chuckles for the morning.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Sep 28 2017 09:16
oh man, could you imagine how scary a tyranid rooster would be
We already have tzeentch for that tho
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 14:00
Tallarn can advance and Fire with everything but HW
Tallarn vehicles don’t suffer -1 to hit for moving w/ Heavy
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:01
hmm, tallarn devil dogs might be good
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 14:02
RUSSES IN A SPEARHEAD GET OBSEC!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:02
wut
where are you reading this?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 14:03
WHTV
Talking to the AM author
BUT RUSSES GET OBSEC IN A SPEARHEAD! OMG!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:07
aaand, steel legion get shafted
rip
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 14:11
The order to shoot and load up is decent
Hmmmmm
Eradicators might be back to the default cannon
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:26
valhallans spotlight is there btw
ALL russes or Tallarn Russes?
because otherwise this shit starts to become broke as fuck. Seriously, what can a Russ NOT do now?
fill the troop slot. Yes. But thats it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:27
it cant charge an airborne unit... yet
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:28
wait till they come up with elysians
grav-chuting russes
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 14:30
Lololol
It’s all russes from what they said, in a spearhead detachment
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:41
this aint fun anymore. They powercreep IG right through the roof.
Guard is the new Eldar.. who'd have thunk
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:44
at least conscripts got nerfed... right guys?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:44
rerolls dice with 20 CP
nope.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:54

Cadians: re-roll 1s to hit if they don't move

So... double tap and get a free order. Nice.

While being obsec
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:56
nah man, go catachan and beat people up with your S4 conscripts
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:58
"They also mentioned Commissar tanks! "
what...
now I cant even snipe the fuckers anymore?
not that its worth it while they cost, what, 30pts?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:58
yeah, there's a stratagem to give a vehicle the Ld aura
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 14:58
jesus fething christ.
I feel bad now.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 14:59
as far as i know its just the 6" Ld 9 bubble, not the execution one
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 15:00
still, while it does not remove the only weakness guard hat, its further getting plugged
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:02
the grenadiers strat looks pretty funny
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 15:02
which is?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:04
a veteran squad can use 1 grenade per model, rather than 1 per unit
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:50
so what im hear in AM are actually going to be OP?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:50
standard codex creep stronger
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:51
i dont think it has been that bad at all so far
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:51
nothing i'm immediately worried about over other codexes
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:51
at least conscripts got changed to 30 max and only use orders on a 4+
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:51
yeah, that was much needed
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:52
fail it and no more orders too
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:52
isnt it just on that unit, as per the normal one order per unit limit?
tekton
@tekton
Sep 28 2017 15:52
Some of my friends played a DG vs IG last night (with currently released rules, etc)- it actually felt more balanced than we thought it would
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:53
double dakka cadian russes?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:53
idk, the way this is worded implies multi orders per unit
Firstly, Conscripts can only be taken in units of 20-30, reducing the effectiveness of stacking orders on a block of 50. Secondly, orders only work on Conscripts on a 4+, and, should they fail, no more orders will work on the unit for the rest of the turn.
tekton
@tekton
Sep 28 2017 15:54
Is there something that says only one order per unit? I thought multiple commanders could give orders to the same unit?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:54
i dont play AM, so im not sure...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:54
yeah, in the index you can only give each unit one order per turn
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 15:54
^this
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:55
maybe that will change some codex
why else would they have worded the article that way?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 15:55
but in the valhallan focus they did say no more orders issued on the conscripts after it and it negates stacking - so sounds like it's gone maybe?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:56
the current wording is each unit may only be affected by one order at a time, so maybe its to avoid confusion with that?
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Sep 28 2017 15:57
idk. we shall see come a week from saturday
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 15:57
yup
tekton
@tekton
Sep 28 2017 15:57
i still haven't gotten any, though with armageddon getting their own stuff tomorrow I may finally get some to thematically go with my Grey Knights
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 15:59
steel legion seem really meh. depending on what orders/relics/WTs/stratagems they get, i'll probably just run them as a different regiment
tekton
@tekton
Sep 28 2017 16:20
so far they've been saying "Armageddon" and not just Steel Legion- so I'm hoping!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 28 2017 16:20
is there a difference?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 16:21
but steel legion is armageddon
the steel legion is the Armageddon regiments
tekton
@tekton
Sep 28 2017 16:22
I understand the fluff and stories, have the book ;) i can hope they expand it is all
none of my other hopes have come true really...but it's not going to stop me from making my own head cannon anyway
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 20:44
this is very confusing...
when you paint a dragoon about a year ago
and now paint another one, using the same scheme, same colours, no new one in my storage... and it turns out entirely different, way brighter, but consistent with the rest of the army... how the fuck did I do the first one?!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 28 2017 20:55
Lol
You’re going senile old man ;)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 21:19
I swear to god, airbrushes are as much a curse as a blessing
has to do with that thing
this is driving me bonkers
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Sep 28 2017 21:27
... I think I see hints that I experimented with oil washes. Which I applied as a filter... that would explain the blacker than normal khorne red...
yes... yes... that makes sense..